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I want one of those small digital cameras, mainly for holiday/trip use. I first saw one at £50, which I think is very reasonable for a digi cam, in the Gadget Shop. So I did a bit of research on the internet and some of the reviews on other sites didn't appear to be too good, mainly because of bad quality, poor flash and the reviewer said how it isn't a good idea to take on holiday! The site is :http://www.firebox.com/index.html?di...roduct&pid=526

So I did yet some more research and found a JVC one. This looks good, it's a popular make and has all what I want but it has no flash!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: Here's the site:http://www.hiwayhifi.com/site/produc...243&ref=kelkoo

So I was wondering if anyone knows any small, yes I want small because it's convenient (and cute,) digital cameras like this that's not too expensive, i.e. no higher than £60.

Also, is the JVC one worth buying regardless of no flash? I'm very confused, because the one I like has everything but has bad reviews and the other one has no flash!


(Thanks Fish for helping me earlier on, lol)
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How do you look in shades?

I know somebody released a tiny camera (well, just the CCD and lens) that just clips on to your glasses and has a cable going to a unit on your belt, and uses head movements to work out when to automatically take a picture I think. Probably costs a lot.
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How do you look in shades?

I know somebody released a tiny camera (well, just the CCD and lens) that just clips on to your glasses and has a cable going to a unit on your belt, and uses head movements to work out when to automatically take a picture I think. Probably costs a lot.
Lol, well I think I'll stick with the normal ones.
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Take a look, here: http://www.dabs.com/uk/templates/Cha...uest&catid=413
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Take a look, here: http://www.dabs.com/uk/templates/Cha...uest&catid=413
Does the site work? Because I get an error page.
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Take a look, here: http://www.dabs.com/uk/templates/Cha...uest&catid=413
Something is buggered with the links.

I'm going to bring this up on the ABout UKL forum, hopefully d will see it.
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i ahve one of those. dont bother getting them for the picture quality. it comes out all grainy, even though it says it has 1.3M pixels.
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Does the site work? Because I get an error page.
I'm not sure why that's happened.

Anyway, go here: http://www.dabs.com/uk/channels/phot...igitalcameras/

Then click on 'digital cameras' and enter £60 as your upper limit. There's a pretty big selection there.
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Something is buggered with the links.

I'm going to bring this up on the ABout UKL forum, hopefully d will see it.
there's nothing you can do about it, it is because the UKL scriupt uses URL codes like &s and %s and ?s, and so does the dabs site, and you cant hae both of them at once. you can use this adress: 'http://www.dabs.com/uk/templates/Channels/ProductResults/ProductResults1.aspx?NRMODE=Publ ished&NRORIGINALURL=%2fuk%2fchan nels%2fphotoandvideo%2fdigitalca meras%2fproducts%2ehtm%3fcatid%3 d413&NRNODEGUID=%7bE811D088-6F32-40D0-827C-9A2F38E45A42%7d&NRCACHEHINT=Gues t&catid=413
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Wityh digital cameras I always recomend going for a well known bran such as Fujifilm or Kodak. I have a Fujifilm 1.3 megapixel camera.

My camera would cost around £70 now and can do this

http://www.robertsonnet.co.uk/dscf0009.jpg
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there's nothing you can do about it, it is because the UKL scriupt uses URL codes like &s and %s and ?s, and so does the dabs site, and you cant hae both of them at once. you can use this adress: 'http://www.dabs.com/uk/templates/Channels/ProductResults/ProductResults1.aspx?NRMODE=Publ ished&NRORIGINALURL=%2fuk%2fchan nels%2fphotoandvideo%2fdigitalca meras%2fproducts%2ehtm%3fcatid%3 d413&NRNODEGUID=%7bE811D088-6F32-40D0-827C-9A2F38E45A42%7d&NRCACHEHINT=Gues t&catid=413
Yeah.

Querystrings they're called, I just don't like speaking computer language with people I want to maintain my reputation with...

I bet someone like d can remove that stupid URL redirection with a single option in vB.
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Yeah.

Querystrings they're called, I just don't like speaking computer language with people I want to maintain my reputation with...

I bet someone like d can remove that stupid URL redirection with a single option in vB.
but it is there for a good reason (apparently), that when googlebots are scanning throught the site, they dont acknowledge any URLs that have more than 3 querystrings (so that no outside sites get any advertising through this site).
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Wityh digital cameras I always recomend going for a well known bran such as Fujifilm or Kodak. I have a Fujifilm 1.3 megapixel camera.

My camera would cost around £70 now and can do this

http://www.robertsonnet.co.uk/dscf0009.jpg
Wow that is really good qualituy for £70, i'm impressed.
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Wow that is really good qualituy for £70, i'm impressed.
Yeah I paid bought it from Jesssops Online nearly 2 years ago, it has an LCD screen as well.

I have taken that camera all over western europe with me. Its made in Japan too.
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Yeah I paid bought it from Jesssops Online nearly 2 years ago, it has an LCD screen as well.

I have taken that camera all over western europe with me. Its made in Japan too.
Pretty good yeah, I'll make sure Gemsy has a look. I like my camera, it's a 3M Kodak but it cost a lot more, makes colours come out really nicely and makes me look like a good photographer .
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Yeah I paid bought it from Jesssops Online nearly 2 years ago, it has an LCD screen as well.

I have taken that camera all over western europe with me. Its made in Japan too.
Does it have a flash and is it small?
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I'm not sure why that's happened.

Anyway, go here: http://www.dabs.com/uk/channels/phot...igitalcameras/

Then click on 'digital cameras' and enter £60 as your upper limit. There's a pretty big selection there.
Thanks - I'll have a look.
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Does it have a flash and is it small?
Its small enough to fit in your pocket but its not that small. I did have a match stick one (qulaity save have them in for £9.99, I paid £39.95 for mine!!!) but the quality is awful.

The problem is with small cameras they may fit a 1.3 mega pixel CMOS CCD (cmos ones are crap and used on cheapo crap camera's they cause the grainy image) but also the lens are too tiny to really pick anything up.

At the very least look for one with a proper CCD they are much better quality, mine is the cheapest proper CCD one.

CCD is the thing that converts the lights into voltages. A AD convertor (Analgoue to Digital) then converts this into a digital format the computer understands. This why its so important to get a good quality CCD.

Most the Japeneese giants use proper CCD's but a lot of the unkown companies such as UMAX, Digital Dreams etc use the much cheaper CMOS varity.
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(Original post by amazingtrade)
Its small enough to fit in your pocket but its not that small. I did have a match stick one (qulaity save have them in for £9.99, I paid £39.95 for mine!!!) but the quality is awful.

The problem is with small cameras they may fit a 1.3 mega pixel CMOS CCD (cmos ones are crap and used on cheapo crap camera's they cause the grainy image) but also the lens are too tiny to really pick anything up.

At the very least look for one with a proper CCD they are much better quality, mine is the cheapest proper CCD one.

CCD is the thing that converts the lights into voltages. A AD convertor (Analgoue to Digital) then converts this into a digital format the computer understands. This why its so important to get a good quality CCD.

Most the Japeneese giants use proper CCD's but a lot of the unkown companies such as UMAX, Digital Dreams etc use the much cheaper CMOS varity.
So if I buy a matchbox one it will be really bad quality, even if I buy quite a good one at around £60? Won't it come out like your picture?

Technology these days!
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So if I buy a matchbox one it will be really bad quality, even if I buy quite a good one at around £60? Won't it come out like your picture?

Technology these days!
Yep, match stick ones have to have CMOS CCDs becuase they are just a simple chip where as proper CCDs involve quite complex electronics. I proper CCD won't fit in a match stick size camera hence they are all quite grainy.

You should be able to get match stick ones that are the same quality as phone cameras though.
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