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    I've just finished and got the results from 2 years slaving away at the AVCE ICt 12 unit course by AQA, and all I can say is thank god AQA are giving in and dropping the subject - they can't teach it and make a course out of it if they tried.

    I don't know if anyone else had problems with this course, but throughout the 2 years everyone in my class at my school often had to re-do units and get them re-marked - often for reasons such as we didn't meet stuff on the mark scheme, when it wasn't even asked for... a prime example of this was for Unit 8 (The multimedia one) (which we did a year ago now) where they asked you to make basically a powerpoint presentation...

    ...well, even though most in our class met all the criteria set out for an A grade, they marked us all down as apparently to get an A we all needed OVER 30 slides - this wasn't in the criteria given to us, so how were we mean't to know. Our school appealed - and apparently we were told alot of other schools had similar complaints.

    But it wasn't just unit 8, most units had issues like this, or had criteria which was more easier than its GNVQ counterparts... such as putting clip art into a word document...

    Now comes the even more fun bit - when we got our results 2 units hadn't been marked for anyone in our class, which again the school are finding out why now, but because of this, our school apparently has found out that AQA decided not to tell UCAS about our grades which we got even with 2 units not marked (I got a BC btw)... and so some people in my class wern't automatically accepted by thier universities as they didn't know about thier ICT grades... something now the people in question are manically trying to sort out...

    I personally believe AQA made a farse out of this entire course.

    Anyone else have the same or similar experiences?
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    AQA is not dropping AVCE ICT. It's going to be called GCE Applied ICT (changed it name to bring in line with other non-vocational A-levels). Therefore, the vocational ICT will still be there. http://www.aqa.org.uk/qual/gceapplied/ict.html

    I havn't been marked down on my coursework. Our teacher marks them properly. Our school hasn't had coursework marks marked down before.
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    Trev i went to the same school as LLOYDJE, my work was marked by the school i got about 6 A's and 2 B's.

    When AQA moderated it i got 2A's 4B's 2C's, and some work i resubmitted after i improved it actually got less marks than the first time even though it had the same work plus more of what are teacher said AQA examiners wanted in the Units.

    Not only that but AQA decided not to even mark 2 of my units, so instead of lowering my grade and sending off my results to the relevant people, they just gave me my result and left it not telling anyone, luckily i went home to check that i had been accepted, which i hadn't. Why? simple AQA told the University the Only grade i had was An E in Business Studies, they didn't tell them about my 2 C's in ICT, and therefore my place was originally given away.

    This happened to another friend, but he didn't check UCAS, because he knew he had the grades needed, however again AQA didn't release the results and his place given away, it's only because i told him to check that he realised this, if i didn't tell him it could have been too late, and AQA would have ****ed up his entire life, as it stands i spent what was meant to be the happiest day of my life phoning and faxing, and although my place is now confirmed i am still trying to get accommodation sorted, and let me tell you one thing is for certain AQA will be paying any additional expenses, and i am currently considering sueing these Dicks who so nearly destroyed my life, and ruined the what was meant to be a good day, and put my entire family under unbelieveable stress.

    Oh and one last thing if i only have 29 pages in my powerpoint presentation, how does that make me any less competent in powerpoint than someone who has 30 slides, doesn't content matter, i should have guessed not, i haven't met a microsoft employee who has needed to know how to insert clipart into 30 slides.

    I think AQA should seek a new occupation if they think they can mess with people like this, the Local Education Authority is not impressed, with these incompetent morons, who are allowed to get away with this.
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    i did a avce ict double award to get into uni, they cocked my first year of uni up because of the whole covering A grade critera but not being marked for an A. I was predicted a AB/BB i got a DD. My college claimed it was there fault, they didnt teach the silabus correctly, but i think edexcel has a part to play in it too.

    I ending up doing a hnd instead of a degree for the first year, im on the degree now but i had to work hard to prove myself and they took special consideration into account, because of what has happened 12 months earlier.
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    When I started I was predicted EE, based on my small number of GCSEs (all A*, A or B, but only a total of 7, 3 of which didn't "count"). About a month later the prediction was changed to AA. I worked damn hard the whole two years. One module I was given 97% by the teacher, but it came back remarked as a D (about 54% I think). I was told I could redo it, but then it was 'accidentally' sent off twice more (coming back first as a D, then a C) without me even seeing it, let alone being allowed to work on it. My best module in the whole two years, which I read up on and spent a LOT of time outside of classes on (I'm talking several hours most days, and all day every day in the holidays), I was told I had a high A. It came back as a D. The whole thing was a complete waste of time. I ended up with BB. If I'd got even a quarter of the marks that were deducted from my original scores I would have got AA. Luckily my course only needed BBC (I got BBBc).
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    It's quite strange that AQA and Edexcel make student's marks go down. For OCR, they do, but not quite often. It depends if the teacher is marking it properly.
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    It depends if the teacher is marking it properly.
    But thats the thing, the teachers were marking it properly with the grading sheets they were given by AQA, but when AQA moderated them, more often than not they marked them down because of 'hidden criteria'... such as

    For Unit 8 - Multimedia Presentation it says for criteria A2

    "produce a presentation which is imaginative in content and coherent for the user"

    no where in that criteria, nor the other 5 A grade criteria does it state you must produce 30 slides or more to get an A grade, so how when the teacher marks it - are they meant to know?

    And if you keep saying the teachers are marking it wrong - how can so many teachers from alot of schools mark it in correctly? As at the appeals meeting, we were told there were alot of schools with the same questions.
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    seems to me they have alot more teething problems than they have solved since the start of avce ict 4 years ago. I know for sure i wont recommend that course to anyone. I will either say go for a btech or A2's
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    (Original post by Glory)
    seems to me they have alot more teething problems than they have solved since the start of avce ict 4 years ago. I know for sure i wont recommend that course to anyone. I will either say go for a btech or A2's
    The BTEC is kind of hard though, and more difficult than AVCE. The coursework is more work orientated than AVCE, and the mark schemes are quite detailed as well (more stuff to go through).
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    (Original post by trev)
    The BTEC is kind of hard though, and more difficult than AVCE. The coursework is more work orientated than AVCE, and the mark schemes are quite detailed as well (more stuff to go through).
    yeh thats why i would recommend it. AVCE's documentation for criterias and marking for teachers is dodgy at best. The criterias look so simple from the unit sheets where in fact there is so many hidden requirements. You either get lucky and do enough slides for example or you do what you think they are asking for and get marked down. There just simply isnt enough guidence from the exam boards.

    My college went back to btech after only 3 years of trialing the avce, my class was the last year. They werent happy with how the subject was supose to progress according to the exam board. I think the teachers spent most of the time guessing how to mark the work. It may well be their fault in part, but they have ran the btech for over 10 years and never had any problems with appualing grades like they did with the avce.
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    (Original post by Glory)
    yeh thats why i would recommend it. AVCE's documentation for criterias and marking for teachers is dodgy at best. The criterias look so simple from the unit sheets where in fact there is so many hidden requirements. You either get lucky and do enough slides for example or you do what you think they are asking for and get marked down. There just simply isnt enough guidence from the exam boards.

    My college went back to btech after only 3 years of trialing the avce, my class was the last year. They werent happy with how the subject was supose to progress according to the exam board. I think the teachers spent most of the time guessing how to mark the work. It may well be their fault in part, but they have ran the btech for over 10 years and never had any problems with appualing grades like they did with the avce.
    I follow a different exam board and non of my friends doing AVCE ICT didn't get marked up or down. For the mark schemes we have, there are no hidden criterias. I find it hard to have hidden criterias where students can't find/achieve them. The exam board that we follow have mark schemes indicating how many things to do (e.g. criteria E1 - do at least 3 slides to show a background with 2 images).

    They kind of changed the vocational ICT to GCE Applied ICT. I saw the course content for it and some of it has changed and some are still the same in some way. Hopefully, it would be better.
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    im only going by my experiences which was a year ago with my exam board. I can only hope that they can improve it enough to make things clearer so no-one has to go throught what my college class did.
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    I feel sorry for everyone who has had bad experiences with this course.

    I finished this course in 2004 with Edexcel and I the only real trouble I had was with the first unit covered, unit 4, where I hadn't learnt to keep to the criteria correctly and my level of English wasn't at a good enough standard.

    After that I didn't have any problems, although some people who studied with me had their work marked down mine always stayed close to the level it was at when the tutor's marked it.

    I'm a little shocked by how far people's marks have gone down though, when I did the course the maximum moderator's could adjust a scpre from a piece of unit coursework was 2 marks (from a 24 mark scale) which was about 8-10% depending where on the scale you were originally marked.

    The college I went to has since changed to another course instead of AVCE ICT, which could be because of the course although they seemed to have it pretty much cracked when I was there.
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    (Original post by mrjos)
    I feel sorry for everyone who has had bad experiences with this course.

    I finished this course in 2004 with Edexcel and I the only real trouble I had was with the first unit covered, unit 4, where I hadn't learnt to keep to the criteria correctly and my level of English wasn't at a good enough standard.

    After that I didn't have any problems, although some people who studied with me had their work marked down mine always stayed close to the level it was at when the tutor's marked it.

    I'm a little shocked by how far people's marks have gone down though, when I did the course the maximum moderator's could adjust a scpre from a piece of unit coursework was 2 marks (from a 24 mark scale) which was about 8-10% depending where on the scale you were originally marked.

    The college I went to has since changed to another course instead of AVCE ICT, which could be because of the course although they seemed to have it pretty much cracked when I was there.
    The teacher should have an enquiry about their student's coursework marked down. I thought it's quite rare to have coursework marks mark down for every single stduent. At our school (follow a different) exam board, we never get marked up or down.

    I'm going to read the examiners report for Edexcel on this subject about coursework to see what is going on.

    The college you went to should change to another exam board for AVCE ICT.
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    (Original post by trev)
    The teacher should have an enquiry about their student's coursework marked down. I thought it's quite rare to have coursework marks mark down for every single stduent. At our school (follow a different) exam board, we never get marked up or down.

    I'm going to read the examiners report for Edexcel on this subject about coursework to see what is going on.

    The college you went to should change to another exam board for AVCE ICT.
    In one of our units everyone got marked down by 2 Grades, and lloydje is right it doesn't say how many slides but we got marked down for that.

    My Artwork unit i thought i'd be clever and printed a document for each criteria so for E1 there was a document with everything E1 requried according to the criteria, and did this for all of them, my teacher said it was easy to mark because i had done this, and said it was probably a low A, it came back a D, how does that happen then?

    Luckily i have scraped into my UNI course so hopefully things will start to change.
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    (Original post by Shycho)
    In one of our units everyone got marked down by 2 Grades, and lloydje is right it doesn't say how many slides but we got marked down for that.

    My Artwork unit i thought i'd be clever and printed a document for each criteria so for E1 there was a document with everything E1 requried according to the criteria, and did this for all of them, my teacher said it was easy to mark because i had done this, and said it was probably a low A, it came back a D, how does that happen then?

    Luckily i have scraped into my UNI course so hopefully things will start to change.
    That sounds a little similar to something we had to do actually, we used to print a document listing all of the criteria (E1, E2 etc...) then we used to reference page numbers where we thought the criteria had been met which meant we had more chance of getting decent marks seeing as we noticed quickly where we had little or no evidence for grades.

    It's a shame you got marked down though, did you get a chance to redo any of the work?
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    (Original post by mrjos)
    That sounds a little similar to something we had to do actually, we used to print a document listing all of the criteria (E1, E2 etc...) then we used to reference page numbers where we thought the criteria had been met which meant we had more chance of getting decent marks seeing as we noticed quickly where we had little or no evidence for grades.

    It's a shame you got marked down though, did you get a chance to redo any of the work?
    Yeah, we also had the mark sheet on top of that, we did get chance to redo them, but then they were handed in late so i don't know my mark for it yet.
 
 
 
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