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True multiculturalism is a failed experiment. Discuss.

Points for anyone who can explain it better than me, the conversation here basically sums it up.

Originally Posted by Kingsley
no offence but unless you're the best looking asain person out there facially, you'll still be bottom of the pile in britain no matter how buff you get.


Originally Posted by YL_LDN
Wow, so according to you whites are facially supreme to 99.9% of Asians. This is exactly why there is racial tension, i didn't even bring race into it. And the thing is, most people actually do think like you political correctness aside, but **** happens, i know because i grew up with people who think like you. At the end of the day, for most white people it will always be 'us whites are better than all of the rest of you' in your minds, lets not kid ourselves, we're all animals except we have conscience, art and science.

But i'd love to see you say that in public.


Originally Posted by YL_LDN

Yes, believe me, i'm not some uneducated tool with no qualifications. People kid themselves into thinking that such attitudes don't exist, but in reality they are very real. The government can police peoples' thoughts to an extent all they want (because most people are docile and fearful) but as i said, we are all animals and we will all think in such a way that is un-pc to a significant degree.

But, if its any comfort to the argument i'm making , this is just the science of a minority vs majority population. It doesn't matter who the majority is in a hypothetical case , the majority will always see itself as a cut above the rest and/or distinguishable.




Originally Posted by Kingsley

Maybe stop being so arrogant and "misoginistic" and you won't get harsh replies that bring you back down to earth with a bump. + I never said that whites were facially superior (but oh yes he did), just in Britain white,black and white/black men are usually most successful with females, so stop acting like you're almost god's gift to women.



Originally Posted by YL_LDN

I'm not acting like i'm God's gift with women, i'm not. I just see life as a bore when such a society exists. Reason, i go for achieving as much in my life as possible is to simply fill the boredom of being in such a race obsssessed society. When you're not really accepted into British culture even though you want to be, this is what happens... society fragmentates (is that even a word?), Asian gangs, Black gangs, BNP, rallies, the whole ******* shebang and the paranoia everyday that people do look at you differently.

There just comes a point where you think ' i just cba, i just want to become great and troll in real life for laughs because that way my ego will never get damaged and i'll have a laugh' .

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Reply 1
What?
Reply 2
Allow me to explain by analogy. Lets say you take English GCSE and you have an essay to write. So, you write your essay, and you hand it in, and your teacher highlights a hundred errors and gives you an F. Do you say "Oh, English was a failed experiment!" and drop it, or do you iron out the errors and hand in an essay worth an A? If you're a loser, of course, you choose the former, but that is fortunately not the modern attitude.
Do you want me to say you're beautiful?
One person's alleged opinion shows that multiculturalism is a failed "experiement"? :s-smilie:
No. I believe that multiculturalism would work if everyone involved started with the intention of discriminating.
Reply 6
Unbiased Opinion
One person's alleged opinion shows that multiculturalism is a failed "experiement"? :s-smilie:



Just open your mind and see it for what it is. There's massive weaknesses in the whole idea of multiculturalism. It's like Communism, an ideal and not a concept that can really be implemented to what it is supposed to. Because we are human.
Reply 7
Bobifier
Allow me to explain by analogy. Lets say you take English GCSE and you have an essay to write. So, you write your essay, and you hand it in, and your teacher highlights a hundred errors and gives you an F. Do you say "Oh, English was a failed experiment!" and drop it, or do you iron out the errors and hand in an essay worth an A? If you're a loser, of course, you choose the former, but that is fortunately not the modern attitude.


lol , no, the modern attitude is, let's pretend everything is ok and drink our lives away without giving a **** about anything , oh lets vote for the Nazis, they look nice. Germany, 1933. ETC ETC ETC.

Nietzche: people are docile and fearful... and my God was he correct.
YL_LDN
Points for anyone who can explain it better than me, the conversation here basically sums it up.
Aristotle declares in your signature: "we are what we repeatedly do!" Take the hint, OP. :wink:
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Prisoner Zero
Aristotle declares in your signature: "we are what we repeatedly do!" Take the hint, OP. :wink:


Ah, yes, but that was not a catch all mantra for all of society, nothing can be because nothing is really dealt in absolutes in the real world.

Yeah, sure, i can change what i do and how i think (which i dont' intend to) but it doesn't mean i'll change what other people think does it? People on a non microcosmic level will always be stuck in their ways, incapable of transition because of chronic dogmatism.
I have nothing against multiculturalism, but if, and only if, white people hold the power. :lol:
Reply 11
Bobifier
Allow me to explain by analogy. Lets say you take English GCSE and you have an essay to write. So, you write your essay, and you hand it in, and your teacher highlights a hundred errors and gives you an F. Do you say "Oh, English was a failed experiment!" and drop it, or do you iron out the errors and hand in an essay worth an A? If you're a loser, of course, you choose the former, but that is fortunately not the modern attitude.


Allow me to extend the analogy.

Let's say many students hand in rubbish essays and they all get marked F. The education board now has no choice but to declares it a 'Failed experiment' and as a remedy lowers the standards. Now everyone starts getting As but the crapiness of essays hasn't changed. It has now become an even 'bigger failed experiment' with many loosers. (un) fortunately, the modern attitude is to declare '**** happens' and move on to lower the standards of other subjects !
Reply 12
junkee
Allow me to extend the analogy.

Let's say many students hand in rubbish essays and they all get marked F. The education board now has no choice but to declares it a 'Failed experiment' and as a remedy lowers the standards. Now everyone starts getting As but the crapiness of essays hasn't changed. It has now become an even 'bigger failed experiment' with many loosers. (un) fortunately, the modern attitude is to declare '**** happens' and move on to lower the standards of other subjects !


this actually made me lol in real life. bravo haha.
works ok in my house.


I'm sure I've seen this exact same thread title before.
Bobifier
Allow me to explain by analogy. Lets say you take English GCSE and you have an essay to write. So, you write your essay, and you hand it in, and your teacher highlights a hundred errors and gives you an F. Do you say "Oh, English was a failed experiment!" and drop it, or do you iron out the errors and hand in an essay worth an A? If you're a loser, of course, you choose the former, but that is fortunately not the modern attitude.


An alternate analogy goes as follows. Lets say you're employed by an engineering company and have a commercial aeroplane to design. So, you design your plane, and you experiment with a full passenger load, and it crashes to the ground in a horrific fireball of death and destruction, killing hundreds. Your chief engineer points out that your main failing is that you replaced rivets on your aircraft with the magical welding power of harmony and love. Do you say "Oh, this aeroplane was an unqualified disaster!" and drop it, or do you give it another go and hope the plane will hold together this time if you just believe in love and harmony that little bit harder? If you're a sane individual, of course, you choose the former, and that is increasingly the modern attitude.


I'm not saying that multiculturalism has been an entire failure, but rather that your analogy was ridiculous.



Edit: Bugger, someone reworked your analogy way before I did.
Reply 16
YL_LDN
Points for anyone who can explain it better than me, the conversation here basically sums it up.

didnt really understand the quotes.
but as for multiculturalism being a failed experiment. there is nothing to discuss. surely?
what are you proposing to do about it then, and if you're an ethnic minority yourself, I don't see where this is going. Also massive LOL at the people who say it's a failed experiement like one day we're going to wake up to multiculturalism and revert back to the world of old. Globalisation and movement of population is here to stay so get used to it. Also you seem to be talking about multi racialism.
Bluelight
what are you proposing to do about it then, and if you're an ethnic minority yourself, I don't see where this is going. Also massive LOL at the people who say it's a failed experiement like one day we're going to wake up to multiculturalism and revert back to the world of old. Globalisation and movement of population is here to stay so get used to it. Also you seem to be talking about multi racialism.


There is not just two option "the old world" and "multiculturalism". There is also assimilation which worked nice during around one century in France. Now we started the multiculturalism things and that sucks. Multiculturalism tend to values relativism and that's a bad thing. A country have values that are supposed to be shared by all citizen and be put above everything else. When people start to claim about multiculturalism they want to put their "roots" value above those of the nation which is deeply wrong. By the way there is no such thing as race...
LysFromParis
There is not just two option "the old world" and "multiculturalism". There is also assimilation which worked nice during around one century in France. Now we started the multiculturalism things and that sucks. Multiculturalism tend to values relativism and that's a bad thing. A country have values that are supposed to be shared by all citizen and be put above everything else. When people start to claim about multiculturalism they want to put their "roots" value above those of the nation which is deeply wrong. By the way there is no such thing as race...

I disagree with relativism, at least in regard to the law, and that we should all be united under one common law. In regard to the OP are you suggesting that anyone non-white must agree that white people are the most attractive in Britain for the sake of cultural cohesion?

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