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    (Original post by lilsunflower)
    When you say some colleges in Durham are 'religious'... what sort of religion do you mean? I applied to St. Johns for law but apparently it is extremely religious. I'm assuming religious to be Christian, but Catholic or Protestant?
    St. John's was founded as a theological college, an Anglican foundation, so protestant.
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    (Original post by hildabeast)
    Are Durham colleges not just basically glorified halls of residence??? I heard that no actual teaching goes on there, so are they purely domestic??? I don't get it...
    well yes they basically are, but they have their own bars, jcr and library, etc, so have their own identity as well as being the place you'll live in. When it comes to sports they will play each other, and each have parties and stuff like that, a bit like oxbridge. This doesnt happen at most normal uni halls of residence. At the same time, Durham is a single uni so it has its own sense of identity, so best of both worlds.
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    (Original post by hildabeast)
    Are Durham colleges not just basically glorified halls of residence??? I heard that no actual teaching goes on there, so are they purely domestic??? I don't get it...

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    no theres no teaching in your own college, but it's a bit more than halls of residence..........basically your choice of college will have an effect on where you live and eat your meals for your first year(and sometimes 3rd year) but as each college is seperate it also effects what sports teams you can play for, what facilities you can use and where formal dinners and other college events are based.
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    (Original post by rah)
    haha that is *highly* debatable...
    I don't actually see that it is. The campus is really not very nice, it is decidedly ugly. Also, Durham is a much older, more established University whose reputation comes before it. The town of Durham is beautiful, as are many of the University buildings. Warwick is a far newer University, which is also not in Warwick! Durham also gets better results, and fares better in most league tables. Enough said I think?
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    (Original post by hildabeast)
    Are Durham colleges not just basically glorified halls of residence??? I heard that no actual teaching goes on there, so are they purely domestic??? I don't get it...

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    It is true that no teaching goes on in Durham colleges, but they are by no means just glorified halls of residences. Your college determines where you will live that is true, but also your social life is mostly determined by your college. A lot of social activity in Durham is centered around the colleges, and their individual bars. They have their own functions, parties, balls and formals. Also, you will have 3 meals a day in you chosen college for at least a year. In certain colleges, ie. Cuths, students have a lot of power, and can basically run the college for themselves, deciding what to fund, what to organise, and what various rules may apply. In addition to this, each college has many sports teams who play against each other. One of the most important things about the college is friends. Most of your friends, or at least many of them will be from your own college, and some people choose to socialise either mostly, or even only within their own college. The college system is less insular than that of Oxbridge though, so if you don't like your college, or the people that you live with, you don't have to spend all your time with them, as all lectures, and most tutorials have people from all colleges in, giving you the opportunity to make friends with people outside your college, which may be useful if you're at one of the smaller colleges and need to get away from it all for a bit, and also for this reason it's not so dire if you end up in Marys afterall!

    (Original post by AveHan)
    I don't actually see that it is. The campus is really not very nice, it is decidedly ugly. Also, Durham is a much older, more established University whose reputation comes before it. The town of Durham is beautiful, as are many of the University buildings. Warwick is a far newer University, which is also not in Warwick! Durham also gets better results, and fares better in most league tables. Enough said I think?
    erm...

    League tables:

    the times- warwick above durham - 8th vs 10th

    guardian - warwick 9th vs durham 28th (i don't trust these tables but still)

    telegraph table of tables(arguably the best)- warwick 5th vs 16th for durham, can also note that warwick is 5th in terms of reputation with employers whilst durham is 15th

    warwick is seen as much more academic and has a very good reputation in europe as well which durham really does lack

    but i do agree that durham is much prettier
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    (Original post by rah)
    erm...

    League tables:

    the times- warwick above durham - 8th vs 10th

    guardian - warwick 9th vs durham 28th (i don't trust these tables but still)

    telegraph table of tables(arguably the best)- warwick 5th vs 16th for durham, can also note that warwick is 5th in terms of reputation with employers whilst durham is 15th

    warwick is seen as much more academic and has a very good reputation in europe as well which durham really does lack

    but i do agree that durham is much prettier

    the telegraph have a league table? can you post the link here please.
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    Sorry forgot to add the most important thing about Durham colleges. Each has its own different personality and sense of identity (Cuths obviously being the best). They are like seperate communities. The sense of togetherness in Cuths is great, you can talk to anyone and most people know each other, even though it is the largest college. The college rivalry is also very intense because of this college spirit. Great if you like that sort of thing. All together now..."The famous Hatfield College went to Rome to see the pope...."
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    I'M LOVING CUTHBERTS INSTEAD!!!!

    ahem

    yeah and do hatfield have their own college sport?? no!! we do!! Jism wrestling is the most fun you will ever have involving baby oil and half naked men*








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    (Original post by rah)
    erm...

    League tables:

    the times- warwick above durham - 8th vs 10th

    guardian - warwick 9th vs durham 28th (i don't trust these tables but still)

    telegraph table of tables(arguably the best)- warwick 5th vs 16th for durham, can also note that warwick is 5th in terms of reputation with employers whilst durham is 15th

    warwick is seen as much more academic and has a very good reputation in europe as well which durham really does lack

    but i do agree that durham is much prettier
    "there are lies, damned lies, and statistics" meaning, you can make statistics prove anything....
    Take for example the fact that Southampton was placed above Durham, (number 11) in this years Times league tables....says it all I think?
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    (Original post by lilsunflower)
    When you say some colleges in Durham are 'religious'... what sort of religion do you mean? I applied to St. Johns for law but apparently it is extremely religious. I'm assuming religious to be Christian, but Catholic or Protestant?

    I'm so bloody skrewd.
    All it means is that the college ethos is a religious one, (anglican, protestant), and a lot of people there are religious. It shouldn't really be a problem if you're not religious, although John's is the most religious college in Durham really, even more so than Chads, and quite evangelical.
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    (Original post by AveHan)
    "there are lies, damned lies, and statistics" meaning, you can make statistics prove anything....
    Take for example the fact that Southampton was placed above Durham, (number 11) in this years Times league tables....says it all I think?
    Why is Durham "better than the statistics suggest" then?
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    well, you see, we basically have two different uni's at durham which are meant to both be Durham, one is Durham uni, which is the old established one with the great academic reputation and everything....then there is the Stockton campus, which is still a good uni but is newer and the entry requirements are lower and the courses (generally) aren't seen to be as good.

    it is assessed as a whole uni, which yeah technically it is, but stockton is miles away and there are no shared courses or facilities really so i dont see why it is.

    it would be a bit like taking an average of Oxford and Oxford Brookes and using that for your league tables

    (Original post by kildare)
    Why is Durham "better than the statistics suggest" then?
    it's not. how can you possibly suggest every credible university guide is wrong?

    (Original post by AveHan)
    "there are lies, damned lies, and statistics" meaning, you can make statistics prove anything....
    Take for example the fact that Southampton was placed above Durham, (number 11) in this years Times league tables....says it all I think?
    ..that southampton is better academically than durham?

    don't get me wrong, i don't think durham is necessarily a bad university but there are at least 10 if not more who are 'better' on every scale

    (Original post by nero076)
    the telegraph have a league table? can you post the link here please.
    sorry matey i can't do the http thing, basically search this forum for telegraph tables, have seen the links posted several times

    they have their own table and a table of tables which correlates loads of different tables.

    oh and the financial times rate warwick more highly than durham as well.
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    (Original post by AveHan)
    It is true that no teaching goes on in Durham colleges, but they are by no means just glorified halls of residences.
    :confused:

    Doesn't the word 'college' refer to somewhere in which teaching and/or research takes place rather than just a social centre???? Since when has having your own bar and formal hall been a qualifier for college status???

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    (Original post by hildabeast)
    :confused:

    Doesn't the word 'college' refer to somewhere in which teaching and/or research takes place rather than just a social centre???? Since when has having your own bar and formal hall been a qualifier for college status???

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    I think that you'll find that that is just your own personal definition of a college, and not any recognised one. Each college has it's own tutors, and all are run financially independently, and as I said before, each college has a very, very different identity and community. The colleges are also much bigger than any halls, and I don't see any halls having individual sports teams, do you? And if we're going to go by your reasoning, in what way does a collection of totally isolated colleges deserve to be called a university, when they share no common facilities?
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    (Original post by AveHan)
    I think that you'll find that that is just your own personal definition of a college, and not any recognised one. Each college has it's own tutors, and all are run financially independently, and as I said before, each college has a very, very different identity and community. The colleges are also much bigger than any halls, and I don't see any halls having individual sports teams, do you? And if we're going to go by your reasoning, in what way does a collection of totally isolated colleges deserve to be called a university, when they share no common facilities?
    All I am trying to say is that I see the Durham colleges as a kind of half-way house between college and residential unit. Fincial independence is one thing (although the colleges at Lancaster University are not financially independent) but Durham colleges are not academically autonomous. Oxford and Cambridge work as a federation of colleges due to the natural evolution of various academic communities within the cities, but the colleges at Durham seem just to have been placed there artificially to imitate them. Also I know of plenty of halls of residence which have their own football teams etc.

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    (Original post by hildabeast)
    All I am trying to say is that I see the Durham colleges as a kind of half-way house between college and residential unit. Fincial independence is one thing (although the colleges at Lancaster University are not financially independent) but Durham colleges are not academically autonomous. Oxford and Cambridge work as a federation of colleges due to the natural evolution of various academic communities within the cities, but the colleges at Durham seem just to have been placed there artificially to imitate them. Also I know of plenty of halls of residence which have their own football teams etc.

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    The way I see it from talking to friends at York and Lancaster, their colleges are basically soley halls of residences, and social functions are more university wide. I hardly think you can say that the college system is artificial, as it developed like this: University College was the first, in the castle, then Hatfield was created, (slaves to the castle), then Cuth's was formed by people who did not want to belong to either college (1888). Chad's and John's were set up as religious institutions shortly afterwards. Thus as you can see the system is hardly artificial, each college was set up with it's own ethos, and aims, and in no way to replicate Oxbridge.
 
 
 
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