Conservatives?

As I said before, you may be right. Unemployment may be at a record low. But, you were wrong to attribute this to a minimum wage policy. .

No not this thread, but it was to do with bad mouthing the Tories!

I didn't say the min wage was a cause, merely pointing out that the min wage didn't cause mass unemployment like the Tories thought it would.

That's because Labor at the last minute read a book on economics and realizing the folly of their ways backed down from the higher rate of minimum wage that they were toying with introducing and went ahead with introducing a lower one; one that approximated to what the free market would have provided in any case.

Well I think it is a bit ridiculous really. Everyone can have their own oppinions. I swear this Tory supporting thing is becoming like a club which instantly gives its members the impression that they are sophisticated and intelligent. But this isn't the case.

Well I think it is a bit ridiculous really. Everyone can have their own oppinions. I swear this Tory supporting thing is becoming like a club which instantly gives its members the impression that they are sophisticated and intelligent. But this isn't the case.

People are entitled to extra money if they live on a low income. I see it as everyone contributing to each and others well being .

Well, it isn't "everyone contributing to each and others well being" It's one class of people subsidizing another class of people. This is a one way street. There's no quid pro quo here.

That seems sensible; to start with a lower wage to see the result, and then steadily increase it over time.

Its called careful planning.

Most people loose out. Our country will not become better unless people are living above a certain standard.

And how is this to be achieved?

Well, it isn't "everyone contributing to each and others well being" It's one class of people subsidizing another class of people. This is a one way street. There's no quid pro quo here.

It isn't a one-way thing. Most people have times in their lives where they are affluent and times of poverty. The state is there to help them when times are hard e.g. early parenthood, retired etc...



Not trial and error. Yes if the min wage is very high then of course there will be job losses, but a moderate wage would have a very positive impact on many of the lowest incomed families! I've seen this first hand because my mum works for min wage. If it wasn't there she'd have no choice but to work for less. The min wage sets out a clear message that there is a basic standard of living.

affluent is a relative thing

It isn't a one-way thing. Most people have times in their lives where they are affluent and times of poverty. The state is there to help them when times are hard e.g. early parenthood, retired etc...



Not trial and error. Yes if the min wage is very high then of course there will be job losses, but a moderate wage would have a very positive impact on many of the lowest incomed families! I've seen this first hand because my mum works for min wage. If it wasn't there she'd have no choice but to work for less. The min wage sets out a clear message that there is a basic standard of living.

why should there be a basic standard of living? But isnt it more worrying that some people care more about animals than about people, ie their 40 cats and leave the homeless man starving.

MH isn't out of touch. He has his finger on the button

Seriously, I reckon that Tony Blair will resign before the next election - he is too much of a liability for Labour - and the deputy PM will fill his shoes...God help us

There should be a basic standard of living because we all belong to a society where we all have rights and responsibilties for each other.

Well, thats a generalisation if ever I seen one.

May be a generalisation, but aren't the conservative party awful! Not that the Labour party are much better. They're so smarmy, particularly Nigel Evans, who looks like a hamster.

May be a generalisation, but aren't the conservative party awful! Not that the Labour party are much better. They're so smarmy, particularly Nigel Evans, who looks like a hamster.