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(Original post by serendipity)
No one :rolleyes:
ok well i don't. i don't support any party, and i definately son't support the tories
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You mis read what I said.
sorry, i didn't really need to quote you, was kinda continuin ur point about the misplaced criticism
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Exactly, the people who oppose the top up fees are usually the ones following the media ******** about it. Perhaps they should at least read the basic 'student/parent' guide to top up fees before they make comments.
I oppose the principle of top up fees, and am well informed on the subject. My understanding was that education should be available for everyone. I believe making students pay is wrong. I am not poor, but there is no way i'll be able to afford top up fees when i go to uni in september, therefore my parents will have to pay it instead, which I believe is wrong.

Perhaps you should refrain from seeing everything from a purely labour standpoint and take a look at the bigger picture. Top up fees are necessary at the moment because of the ridiculously vast numbers of students Blair is sending to university, many of whom should not be there in the first place.

I suggest that everyone discussing political policies on this thread should read the last 20 pages of the ultimate political discussion thread - these issues have been thrashed out till everyone's blue in the face.
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ok well i don't. i don't support any party, and i definately son't support the tories
So you're another one who doesn't vote then :rolleyes:
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So you're another one who doesn't vote then :rolleyes:
Errr, you don't have to support a party to vote.
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Errr, you don't have to support a party to vote.
In the general elections? Sorry, I've never voted before - what do you vote for? Is it an individual or a party?
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So you're another one who doesn't vote then :rolleyes:
i'm 17 so no i don't vote
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i'm 17 so no i don't vote
Do you intend to when you're 18?
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Do you intend to when you're 18?
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I am not poor, but there is no way i'll be able to afford top up fees when i go to uni in september, therefore my parents will have to pay it instead, which I believe is wrong.
But with topup fees you don't need to pay anything upfront so it shouldn't stop you from going to uni!
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The conservatives are the best look what the tories did for us when in power.
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The conservatives are the best look what the tories did for us when in power.
Depends who you mean by 'us'.
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The conservatives are the best look what the tories did for us when in power.
what did they do?
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But with topup fees you don't need to pay anything upfront so it shouldn't stop you from going to uni!
Not to mention that they don't come in until 2006, so they won't effect anybody starting Uni next year. At the moment your parents are expected to pay your tuitions fees- very few 18 year olds can afford to pay them on their own. When top up fees come in, you'll be paying them yourself, after you graduate and are earning decent money.
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Privatisation was one of the best ideas that the conservatives brought in. The conservatives change this country and made the working man do something, she crushed the Strikes
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Privatisation was one of the best ideas that the conservatives brought in.
Like Railtrack eh?

The Tories thought that by privatising everything things would become better. The believed that the state sector was too incompetent and that by bringing in competition etc things would improve. Great eh!?!?
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Like Railtrack eh?

The Tories thought that by privatising everything things would become better. The believed that the state sector was too incompetent and that by bringing in competition etc things would improve. Great eh!?!?
Labour like privatisation as well, only they they dress it up as PFI schemes.
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But with topup fees you don't need to pay anything upfront
Er, yes you do. I think the whole idea of a tax on students (which is essentially what top up fees are) is totally wrong.
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Er, yes you do. I think the whole idea of a tax on students (which is essentially what top up fees are) is totally wrong.
Tuition fees you have to pay up front. Top up fees you don't pay until you've graduated.
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Er, yes you do. I think the whole idea of a tax on students (which is essentially what top up fees are) is totally wrong.
So where does the money come from?
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