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    (Original post by kat)
    true!

    how do find the cost of living there and the accomodation?

    also what is it like to live in a big city? i mean i have only ever been o london once when i was 7 so its not as if i know the area!
    I pay £3600 for the year to live in a catered hall of residence... living in London itself is great. Loads of great clubs and bars to go to, you can go to different clubs every weekend for the length of your entire course and probably not go to them all.
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    (Original post by Musicwoman)
    hello peeps!
    Being in NYO sounds great (warning - sour grapes alert!!) but the residentials cost £400 a time which my mum (single parent) just can't afford, not to mention all the hidden costs of the expectation of having 'decent' instruments. Mine are good quality but old and second-hand - not quite up to the 'chewing gum to keep the cork on' standard, but almost! Sorry I'm off on one now, but I get really cross about all this! I went to a crap comprehensive with loads of staff absences so I had to teach myself GCSE sciences at the end, can't afford the 'ridiculous-sum-per-hour' professors charge for instrumental lessons ) though my woodwond teacher (BLESS HIM - I ADORE HIM!!) sweetly charges me 'normal' rates then gives me three hour lessons and 'forgets'...

    And I'm STILL doing OK compared to other people who've had it all AND got the grades for Cambridge. When is it my turn to get a break? (You can tell I'm pee'd off cos I haven't heard from Cam can't you??
    I've always been in exactly the same position; you've done really well to get ur diplomas then! My mum (single parent) couldn't afford instrumental lessons for me until I was about 10, so I feel like I'm behind every1 else! I've passed grade 8 tho so I suppose i'm not doing badly, just want to get a diploma now! I know some1 who's been playing from the age of 3, and is taught by some1 from the RNCM. It's sickening! :mad:

    Would u reconsider applying for cambridge if u didn't get in this time??
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    (Original post by musicman)
    I've always been in exactly the same position; you've done really well to get ur diplomas then! My mum (single parent) couldn't afford instrumental lessons for me until I was about 10, so I feel like I'm behind every1 else! I've passed grade 8 tho so I suppose i'm not doing badly, just want to get a diploma now! I know some1 who's been playing from the age of 3, and is taught by some1 from the RNCM. It's sickening! :mad:

    Would u reconsider applying for cambridge if u didn't get in this time??

    I might. my mum would support me if I decided to take a year out. I'm not sure - I really want to go there quite badly - not fanatical but I just loved the course which so mnay hate.
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    (Original post by Musicwoman)
    I might. my mum would support me if I decided to take a year out. I'm not sure - I really want to go there quite badly - not fanatical but I just loved the course which so mnay hate.
    yeah i really like the course which is why I applied! I'm having to take a year out anyway although I have an offer, so you wouldn't be the only one! I was also thinking of re-applying if I failed to get the grades, and retaking some modules, but i hope it doesn't come to that! :confused:
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    I have had offers from cambridge (robinson) AAA, Manchester AAB, Nottingham AAB, KCL AAB (they have three adorno specialists which is really cool), York ABB, Edinburgh BBB. If I get the grades I'll go to cambridge

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    Hi Musicboy! My offers are Manchester AAB, Cambridge (Jesus) AAA, Leeds ABC, City BBBC, Durham ABC, Bristol (can't remember!). Thinking of Durham as insurance for Cam. What instrument(s) do you play??
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    (Original post by musicman)
    Hi Musicboy! My offers are Manchester AAB, Cambridge (Jesus) AAA, Leeds ABC, City BBBC, Durham ABC, Bristol (can't remember!). Thinking of Durham as insurance for Cam. What instrument(s) do you play??
    French horn, Tenor sax (badly in various jazz bands but I still don't understand jazz) and piano. I am more interested in the more academic aspects of music though. Recently I have been reading lots of Adorno and have been getting more interested in schenkerian analysis (which Adorno disliked). what are your instruments/interests in music?
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    (Original post by musicboy)
    French horn, Tenor sax (badly in various jazz bands but I still don't understand jazz) and piano. I am more interested in the more academic aspects of music though. Recently I have been reading lots of Adorno and have been getting more interested in schenkerian analysis (which Adorno disliked). what are your instruments/interests in music?
    whats Adorno?

    i was trying to read up on schenkerian analysis b4 i went 4 cam interview, but i cudnt find anything anywhere! what book did you read? and where from?

    i think i am going to go to KCL- as long as i get AAB!
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    although, even though ive got offers form everywhere else apart from cam, and KCL was rated top in the country last year, do you think it is worth replying to cam nxt yr? wot do u think? wot would you have done if you didnt get in? i mean i believe things happen 4 a reason and that cam wasnt right 4 me altho at the time i cudnt imagine myself newhere else! but now as i look in2 more unis i find them good places aswell, and i think it was because i found so many friends in cam, esp, on choral trials and had stayed there quite a while and so could experience it. At the time i said if i didnt get in i would want 2 reaply but now i dont know whether i could go through another rejection and waste another yr of my life!
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    I will definitely be reapplying for cam if I don't get the grades (although i should). The best book on schenkerian analysis is called structural hearing by felix salzer. you're better off with the two volume version (if you can find one) rather than the more modern two volumes bound as i think this was a real marketing error by dover. The book is a method unlike schenkers original writings which have dodgy translations and don't explain particularly well how you would go about doing an analysis.

    Adorno was a marxist philosopher who wrote a lot about music in the 20th century. He was a pupil of Alban Berg and friends with all the second viennese school crowd. There is a good collection of essays with commentaries by Richard Leppart. Before reading Adorno it might be worth getting used to reading dialectical philosophy. I would suggest reading some essays from History and Class consciousness by Georg Lukacs if you want a good intro to modern marxist thought. On the other hand Adorno is quite complex to read so unless you are really into this stuff like I am it is prob not worth your while reading.

    Musicboy
 
 
 
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