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ken is an idiot, he pays £1000s of our money on his own stupid cab fares because he doenst drive. If he wants public transposrt to be so good, use it and lead by example.
he can't use it, he'd be knifed because a) some people disagree with him, and b) hes famous
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Red Ken has done some good for London. Yes it's a pity that the child rate cuts have to come out of our adult pockets. So walk! Or take the bike! I totally support the congestion charge, as it's supposed to rake in more public transport revenue and helps the environment (or goes a small step towards it). I'd keep him in as Mayor, he is a genuine Londoner who seems to care a lot about the city, unlike some of these plastic MPs...
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I totally support the congestion charge, as it's supposed to rake in more public transport revenue and helps the environment (or goes a small step towards it).
Buses contribute to pollution much more than cars do. Buses pump out their dirty diesel fumes in to the air. The congestion charge is bad, it affects businesses badly, it is regressive and the worst thing is he tries to prevent people taking their cars in to london. But he doesn't leave them with any better option. Buses are terrible, Underground is dirty, dangerous, expensive and hot.
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I'm luckey, and my dad bought me a year travelcard for zones 1 and 2, which came to the grand total of: £580 ....its just stupid. Imagine what that would be if I was an adult (16-17 pass).

You could buy 20 child season tickets at Crystal Palace for that.


What??? I go away for one week and the bus fare has gone up to £1! You have got to be joking...
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Buses contribute to pollution much more than cars do. Buses pump out their dirty diesel fumes in to the air. The congestion charge is bad, it affects businesses badly, it is regressive and the worst thing is he tries to prevent people taking their cars in to london. But he doesn't leave them with any better option. Buses are terrible, Underground is dirty, dangerous, expensive and hot.
Erm I think you'll find that per person cars are much less polluting. You can get about 60 people in one bus, that's about 20 car journeys. Hmmm...
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Buses contribute to pollution much more than cars do. Buses pump out their dirty diesel fumes in to the air. The congestion charge is bad, it affects businesses badly, it is regressive and the worst thing is he tries to prevent people taking their cars in to london. But he doesn't leave them with any better option. Buses are terrible, Underground is dirty, dangerous, expensive and hot.
Yes, but one bus = 30/40 cars on the road.
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Erm I think you'll find that per person cars are much less polluting. You can get about 60 people in one bus, that's about 20 car journeys. Hmmm...
Jokes, we are on the same wavelength I think.
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Erm I think you'll find that per person cars are much less polluting. You can get about 60 people in one bus, that's about 20 car journeys. Hmmm...
Just remembered another fault with the congestion charge. The congestion charge states that 7 seater mini-buses are excluded from the congestion charge. This means that a person can buy a 7 seater dirty diesel bus and drive it around with one person in it and not have to pay a penny in congestion charge. How is that helping the environment?
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Just remembered another fault with the congestion charge. The congestion charge states that 7 seater mini-buses are excluded from the congestion charge. This means that a person can buy a 7 seater dirty diesel bus and drive it around with one person in it and not have to pay a penny in congestion charge. How is that helping the environment?
What about 8 seaters?
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What about 8 seaters?
Not sure of the exact figure, i'll just go have a look. Sorry, it's not 7, it's 9 seater.

"All Public Service Vehicles - buses and coaches with 9 or more seats which are licensed in the 'bus class' with the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency are fully exempt. "
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Just remembered another fault with the congestion charge. The congestion charge states that 7 seater mini-buses are excluded from the congestion charge. This means that a person can buy a 7 seater dirty diesel bus and drive it around with one person in it and not have to pay a penny in congestion charge. How is that helping the environment?
Because it's better than two, three or even four cars making the same journey because of selfish eedjits who don't want people in their cars.
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You could buy 20 child season tickets at Crystal Palace for that.


What??? I go away for one week and the bus fare has gone up to £1! You have got to be joking...
what are you saying about crystal palace?
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Not sure of the exact figure, i'll just go have a look.
I remember that I was in my school minibus once and it hadn't registered the vehicle as belonging to a charity (the school is a charity) so they had to avoid the central area...
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what are you saying about crystal palace?
I am saying that their season ticket prices for children are really low.
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If your ever in London, just avoid having to buy an adult return or single ticket on the tube. Its an absolute rip - off esp. if your travelling in zone 1. I would say take your chances with the child rate, its worth the risk. Thats why period travelcards are the best deal!
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I was absolutely delighted this morning when I renewed my weekly travelcard to find out that I will only have to pay the child rate (saving me a whopping 2quid a week) not the usual 16 - 17 rate.
And also when I turn 18, I wont have to pay adult fares because I will qualify for the student photocard therefore getting the 16 - 17 rate.

This is absolutely GREAT news and I thank Ken Livingston for introducing it.
He is a born and bred Londoner and should remain Mayor.
He has done a terrific job as mayor and introduced great ideas in London.

Wudn't u agree? (sorry non Londoners)

KEN FOR PRIME MINISTER!!

I just checked out the student photocard, and found out that the only people eligible for it are those *studying* in London.

I am at university away from home, but I will spend half the year living at home during vacation. So that leaves me spending half the year in London, on a student loan lower than people who spend a similar amount of time here in term time, without any discount on travel... That also means that jobs I can look for are even more limited, because it's just not worth working if I can barely earn enough to cover transport costs.

arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :'(
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I remember that I was in my school minibus once and it hadn't registered the vehicle as belonging to a charity (the school is a charity) so they had to avoid the central area...
hey i was there too
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I just checked out the student photocard, and found out that the only people eligible for it are those *studying* in London.

I am at university away from home, but I will spend half the year living at home during vacation. So that leaves me spending half the year in London, on a student loan lower than people who spend a similar amount of time here in term time, without any discount on travel... That also means that jobs I can look for are even more limited, because it's just not worth working if I can barely earn enough to cover transport costs.

arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :'(

damn i didnt know that... now im even more annoyed about it all!
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I just checked out the student photocard, and found out that the only people eligible for it are those *studying* in London.

I am at university away from home, but I will spend half the year living at home during vacation. So that leaves me spending half the year in London, on a student loan lower than people who spend a similar amount of time here in term time, without any discount on travel... That also means that jobs I can look for are even more limited, because it's just not worth working if I can barely earn enough to cover transport costs.

arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :'(
are you talking about the student rail card?
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Buses are London are pretty cheap compared to other places though. In Leicester it costs be £1.05 to go 10mins. In London 70p with a saver! Plus with my student LT card it costs about £2 a day to travel anywhere i like between uni and where I live; pretty good going!

Hope Ken comes back to Labour. We need a quick, sharp burst of socialism! The place was beginning to feel like the Tories were around again.
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