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GNVQ's- Are they worth 4 GCSE's??

Are GNVQ's worth 4 GCSE's? Are people that are doing GCSE's being cheated or does the work done in a GNVQ make up for it???

Reply 1

.Laura. <3

11

I did a GNVQ along with my GCSE's and although they are technically worth 4 I really don't think the work is anywhere near that in comparison. Still, its 4 more GCSEs for sixth form....

Reply 2

yorkshirelass

14

It is more "work" than a regular GCSE in that 4 out of 6 units are assessed by coursework and each has to be pretty long in order to meet all the criteria. However, because GNVQs are designed for school leavers not academically able to do A-levels (and probably struggled with GCSEs) they don't have a great reputation. The course content itself is a lot easier than an average GCSE; you just have to make sure you jump through the numerous hoops to get there. In short, although exam boards like to claim it's worth 4 GCSEs, the majority of colleges and employers will not count it as a single GCSE.

Reply 3

kellywood_5

17

No. The 2 qualifications are completely different, so they should be treated as such. If you want to do A-levels, you should have 5 good GCSEs. If you want to do an AVCE or a BTEC, you should have a GNVQ.

Reply 4

Duck and Cover

15

I think its stupid grr! That means that if they do really really well they cud get 32 gcse points 4 one subject!

Reply 5

espo

7

What is everyone's problem with this qualification? People seem to be annoyed that it counts if they don't have it and embarrassed about its value if they do.
Where is the harm in doing a qualification that is mainly coursework based for a subject like ICT? It's a pretty practical subject and very suitable for assessment in this way. It may not have been devised as a course for more able students, granted - and schools have no doubt introduced to boost their A* - G pass rate but there are plenty of capable students who do it and get a good grade.

To have a poll that asks TSR if they think it's worth 4 GCSEs is ridiculous. It's official, it is - so get over it!!!!!!

People get pretty upset when the media go on about GCSEs getting easier each year and yet there are plenty on here who happily slag off this particular qualification. Slightly pretentious, me thinks!!

And, no, I don't have the GNVQ.....

Reply 6

Comp_Genius

4

It's not ICT, it is more work the the content is easier than ICT. Schools have been known to include GNVQ Qualifications in their statistics to achieve higher pass rates. GNVQ's are not worth 4 GCSE's, in a simplistic sense, they are said to be equivalent to GCSE's.

Reply 7

saiyamanadingdongbanana

jakesampson

I really think that you should think before you speak! Dont try and bother being rude and smart because it really does not suit you. You are a new member so I think you should familiaries yourself with the forum rules, dont you?

umm, any specific rule? :rolleyes:

i bet you havent read the rules either

No flaming
Do not post messages that are deliberately hostile and insulting.

i'm afraid no-one has insulted you here... well if they have, then you need to chill out and re-read the thread.

Reply 8

crazyexcitedrandomer01

OP

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saiyamana

umm, any specific rule? :rolleyes:

i bet you havent read the rules either

No flaming
Do not post messages that are deliberately hostile and insulting.

i'm afraid no-one has insulted you here... well if they have, then you need to chill out and re-read the thread.

well you have been banned before so you dont have a leg to stand on!

Reply 9

AT82

I don't think GNVQ Intermediate is worth 4 GCSEs, although if its easy GCSEs we are talking about then maybe.

I don't agree that if you have GNVQ you should do AVCE, the people who all did ok in the AVCE on my course all had decent GCSEs, the ones who did badly often had a GNVQ.

Reply 10

kellywood_5

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AT82

I don't think GNVQ Intermediate is worth 4 GCSEs, although if its easy GCSEs we are talking about then maybe.

I don't agree that if you have GNVQ you should do AVCE, the people who all did ok in the AVCE on my course all had decent GCSEs, the ones who did badly often had a GNVQ.

But do you think someone with a GNVQ Intermediate and 1 GCSE should be allowed to do A-levels? If they've only succeeded in a vocational qualification and failed most of their academic ones, I don't think they should be allowed to contine to a more advanced academic course.

Reply 11

AT82

kellywood_5

But do you think someone with a GNVQ Intermediate and 1 GCSE should be allowed to do A-levels? If they've only succeeded in a vocational qualification and failed most of their academic ones, I don't think they should be allowed to contine to a more advanced academic course.

I will probably get shot for this but no. In my experience there is two reasons people do intermediate, 1) they are not so bright and found GCSEs very hard, 2) they are very lazy and didn't bother revising.

I doubt in either case they would be able to go onto A levels I am sure they must be exceptions. Certainly the people who had good GCSEs did much better in the AVCE than those who just had GNVQs.

Its a complex matter though as its not black and white. From what I have seen though there is a big jump from GNVQs to AVCE.

I did AS Business Studies in the second year to boost my UCAS points for university, (I didn't want to go to university in when I first started my AVCE) and I got a B. A better grade than any of my GCSEs so they are exceptions to the rule.

Reply 12

smooney123

Sorry but while the content may have not been that challenging, neither is gcse. I have done both and gcse in basically a memory map. gnvq ict whilst other subjects are much worse had quite a lot of maths in it, at least at my college. It included tons of work and not work your teacher showed you exactly how to do, you had to learn by yourself or you were kicked out.

I also did GCSE's including chemistry, biology, physics, ict, french, irish and law. However this was after i did my gnvq. Before hand i would not have had the skills to do it. Although i did have maths and english before hand which helped. The amount of work is immense and the pressure prepares you for a levels. I did 7 a levels two of which included ICT double award, with content such as databases, spreadsheets, networking, technical support, web development, multimedia web development, visual programming and systems analysis. Plus i have a hnd and a degree in computing and IT.

So to say its for people who could not do GCSEs/ALevels is stupid, most of the people in my class had 3 - 7 gcses grades B - E and yet they struggled with this course. As did most in a level ict. So academics can struggle just as much as those who were not academic. Its not about the qualification, its about the subject, and no it wasn't all word documents and power-point. Even when i did my degree, most people had a strong academic background, and those were the ones copying there mates work at the end of the year whilist i had mine in a week early with 2.1. The majority of people who slag off this qualifications are either jealous, dont have it or barely passed it.

GNVQ's- Are they worth 4 GCSE's??

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