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And rightly so. Same with any other religion or race.
Islam isn't a race, and Islam isn't a people group, its a set of beliefs.
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I never said it was an illness, abnormal at most.

In todays society people are speaking against Islam without having grasped what the faith is about. The sick thing in society is that the moment anyone says anything remotely derogatory about homosexuals they are beaten down in a flash. It seems that at times Pro homosexual propaganda is being force fed to the population.
Thats a far cry from being arrested for saying anything derogatory about an ideology that is equal hostile to homosexuality.
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Islam isn't a race, and Islam isn't a people group, its a set of beliefs.
A "set of beliefs"? I think you mean a "religion" don't you?
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Yes. Religion is a just a set of beliefs of which critcism should be allowed. After all, we criticise other important texts dont we, such as Constitutions and laws.
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Yes. Religion is a just a set of beliefs of which critcism should be allowed. After all, we criticise other important texts dont we, such as Constitutions and laws.
De acuerdo.
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Had to google that one, but I believe this is 'acuerdo total'
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Islam isn't a race, and Islam isn't a people group, its a set of beliefs.
I didnt say it is!!
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Yes. Religion is a just a set of beliefs of which critcism should be allowed. After all, we criticise other important texts dont we, such as Constitutions and laws.
yes most certainly. however, those who criticise should know what they are talking about.
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yes most certainly. however, those who criticise should know what they are talking about.
Or be arrested?
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Calling Islam an illness will have you arrested and prosecuted.
(Original post by YaMahdi)
And rightly so. Same with any other religion or race.
What is wrong with it being criticised?
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yes most certainly. however, those who criticise should know what they are talking about.
Should we draw up a list of approved Islam critics then?
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Or be arrested?
i dont know have any opinion on that.

on a seperate note vienna, are you some sort of hitler in disguise you seem to have to say everything against Islam in every Islam related post.

If Islam has so many flaws why does it have well over a billion followers and the highest coversion rate??
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Should we draw up a list of approved Islam critics then?
if your going to be stupid about it then thats your perogative your just proving how much of an idiot you really are.

Know Islam before criticizing it.
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if your going to be stupid about it then thats your perogative your just proving how much of an idiot you really are.

Know Islam before criticizing it.
How am I being stupid? Are you suggesting we live in a Big Brother nation where we lack the freedom of opinion and the right to criticise is only reserved for those on an approved list? Because that is exactly what you are saying :rolleyes:
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1. Al-Qur'an is not anti-gay. It disapproves, I'll admit, of gay sex, but the attraction itself was not viewed as a crime until the Hadith came along and wrecked most of what Muhammad (PBUH) had said. In fact, some Muslim scholars (once again, I have to concede, liberals) believe that it is gay lust, not gay love, that is prohibited, and that gay sex, too, is thus OK.
I dont think any right-minded scholar would say it is OK. If they have then surely by know they have been discredited.

Homosexuality is adequately dealt with in Islam. There are no two ways about it. Its not allowed fullstop.

What kind of mulsim are you to post such illogical or false posts with regards to the great religion.
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How am I being stupid? Are you suggesting we live in a Big Brother nation where we lack the freedom of opinion and the right to criticise is only reserved for those on an approved list? Because that is exactly what you are saying :rolleyes:
I have not once mentioned a list!! get over the f'in lsit!

People can pass judgement on what they like. Only if they back up their views with evidence you can give them the light of day.

If i went up to say a KKK member and said your group is a fascist bully organization then he would probably laugh. But if i referred to cases and evidence of where the KKK have acted like bullies or fascists then he/she would have no answer.
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i dont know have any opinion on that.

on a seperate note vienna, are you some sort of hitler in disguise you seem to have to say everything against Islam in every Islam related post.

If Islam has so many flaws why does it have well over a billion followers and the highest coversion rate??
I dont like Islam. Does that make me Hitler? Ill let you answer.

They arent educated, they have little choice, they dont know any better, its a product of their social circumstance?
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I have not once mentioned a list!! get over the f'in lsit!

People can pass judgement on what they like. Only if they back up their views with evidence you can give them the light of day.

If i went up to say a KKK member and said your group is a fascist bully organization then he would probably laugh. But if i referred to cases and evidence of where the KKK have acted like bullies or fascists then he/she would have no answer.
No, you agreed that those who criticised Islam should be arrested unless they "know what they are talking about". We shouldn't have to live in a nanny state where people are not allowed to express their views. If someone comes up to you and you do not think they know what they are talking about then prove them wrong instead of hollering for their immediate arrest. :rolleyes:
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No, you agreed that those who criticised Islam should be arrested unless they "know what they are talking about". We shouldn't have to live in a nanny state where people are not allowed to express their views. If someone comes up to you and you do not think they know what they are talking about then prove them wrong instead of hollering for their immediate arrest. :rolleyes:
When did i say this???

You need to read my post's before replying.
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When did i say this???

You need to read my post's before replying.
(Original post by Vienna)
Calling Islam an illness will have you arrested and prosecuted.
(Original post by YaMahdi)
And rightly so. Same with any other religion or race.
There.
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