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    i'm 15 and not a member of the atc and was wondering if anyone could give me any advice on getting involved with the RAF to eventually become a pilot. I've looked on the raf website but i'm still not clear on things like duties, whether or not you have to have a degree or what the fitness requirements are etc.m any advice would be useful thanks.
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    (Original post by sue123)
    i'm 15 and not a member of the atc and was wondering if anyone could give me any advice on getting involved with the RAF to eventually become a pilot. I've looked on the raf website but i'm still not clear on things like duties, whether or not you have to have a degree or what the fitness requirements are etc.m any advice would be useful thanks.
    U do vae 2 have sum fitness test n get qualifications - ma mate wants 2 get in2 that stuff. Its quite hard suprisingly.. Good luck with ur career!!
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    (Original post by sue123)
    i'm 15 and not a member of the atc and was wondering if anyone could give me any advice on getting involved with the RAF to eventually become a pilot. I've looked on the raf website but i'm still not clear on things like duties, whether or not you have to have a degree or what the fitness requirements are etc.m any advice would be useful thanks.
    20/20 vision is pretty much a must I think. Ring your local careers office for help / advice.

    Also they put you through spacial awareness tests and there is loads to do before you get anywhere near the cockpit.

    Not meaning to try and put you off but they also got stung a few years back when they spent millions training a women who went on maternity leave and subsequently quit. Since then I presume that they have been very selective with who they admit.
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    (Original post by sue123)
    i'm 15 and not a member of the atc and was wondering if anyone could give me any advice on getting involved with the RAF to eventually become a pilot. I've looked on the raf website but i'm still not clear on things like duties, whether or not you have to have a degree or what the fitness requirements are etc.m any advice would be useful thanks.
    There is a pack you can order off their website raf-careers.com. It should tell you everything you need to know.

    You dont have to have a degree but they will sponsor you through university if you want to go (you have to go to one of their selected unis though...). The entry requirements are C's in english, maths and the sciences at GCSE and any 2 a-level passes. You can also get sponsorship through your a-levels. Im not sure what the fitness requirements are..

    Hope that helps.
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    (Original post by Tribi18)
    U do vae 2 have sum fitness test n get qualifications - ma mate wants 2 get in2 that stuff. Its quite hard suprisingly.. Good luck with ur career!!
    Quite hard surprisingly? Operating a £25 million aircraft at 100 feet above ground at 600mph laden with weaponary, responsible for 30 aircraft in a COMAO, with everyone dead or in danger due to a bad move, and you're SURPRISED it's hard to get into....???????

    Being a professional military fast jet pilot is probably one of the hardest jobs in the world. Basic trainees fly a £1 million aircraft. Think about it!
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    (Original post by Chris_)
    You dont have to have a degree but they will sponsor you through university if you want to go (you have to go to one of their selected unis though...).
    The RAF doesn't have selected unis. Some don't have University Air Squadrons, in which case you'd have to join the nearest; you must be a UAS memeber, but you can pick any uni in the UK.
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    (Original post by Mark_KK)
    20/20 vision is pretty much a must I think. Ring your local careers office for help / advice.

    Also they put you through spacial awareness tests and there is loads to do before you get anywhere near the cockpit.

    Not meaning to try and put you off but they also got stung a few years back when they spent millions training a women who went on maternity leave and subsequently quit. Since then I presume that they have been very selective with who they admit.
    There's not an option to quit just because you're pregnant. You can take maternity leave, and return after, but we've never been badly stung by aircrew.

    6/6 vision is technically a must. Don't ask a guy like me too much about medical stuff; be HONEST, and TRY; every case is judged individually.
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    (Original post by sue123)
    i'm 15 and not a member of the atc and was wondering if anyone could give me any advice on getting involved with the RAF to eventually become a pilot. I've looked on the raf website but i'm still not clear on things like duties, whether or not you have to have a degree or what the fitness requirements are etc.m any advice would be useful thanks.
    Hi Sue,

    I was sponsored through university by the RAF and am now a serving pilot. If you have any specific questions, drop me a line at [email protected].

    The duties of a pilot vary wildly; especially considering that your average Harrier mate has spent 6 months in officer training, 6 months in elementary flying training, 1 year in basic fast jet training, 7 months in advanced flying training, 6 months in tactics and weapons flying, 8 months in operational conversion, then 6 months on a squadron to be combat ready.... at each of those points your work life is remarkably different.

    Fitness wise, you can't survive pulling high G all day and operate effectively unless you're fit. I can list "minimum" requirements as much as you like, but the fitter you are, the better.

    More fast jet guys have degrees, but it's not essential. You can come straight from school, but if you don't think you could have made it at uni, flying jets isn't a second string job. It's possible instead of uni; not because you couldn't get there.

    Email me for more advice.
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    Sue,

    Its nice to see that you're taking an interest in the military.

    Hopefully I can offer some advice that will help. I'm a member of the ATC and , I'll get this out of the way I suggest you join if you want to be able to get an idea of RAF life even in a small way. I've been to Cranwell, I was awarded a 6th Form Scholarship, and a Flying Scholarship, so I've gone through the OASC selection a couple of times.

    Get hold of the information pack from the RAF careers website, and visit an RAF careers centre - but if you want to become a pilot, be prepared, they may try to persuade you to consider other trades, which is worth considering, but dont be disheartenned.

    You have to realise that Pilots are probably less than 1% of RAF personnel, and to put simply not only do you have to posses the qualities of an officer, you also have to be medically fit, and have the right aptitidude for the role.

    I notice Wzz has posted and is a serving pilot - his advice is along the lines of what I was going to say - but as the ncie group captain asked me to return in two years, and he's in - i'll stop banging on.
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    (Original post by Wzz)

    Fitness wise, you can't survive pulling high G all day and operate effectively unless you're fit. I can list "minimum" requirements as much as you like, but the fitter you are, the better.

    More fast jet guys have degrees, but it's not essential. You can come straight from school, but if you don't think you could have made it at uni, flying jets isn't a second string job. It's possible instead of uni; not because you couldn't get there.

    Email me for more advice.

    yeah could you give some minimum requirements (nah im not gonna join the RAF)
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    (nah im not gonna join the RAF)
    Well, I shan't waste time looking for your minimum requirements then....!
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    (Original post by Wzz)
    The RAF doesn't have selected unis. Some don't have University Air Squadrons, in which case you'd have to join the nearest; you must be a UAS memeber, but you can pick any uni in the UK.
    Hmm... quite strange. When I was looking into it I was told I would have to study for an approved degree at Newcastle uni.
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    (Original post by Chris_)
    Hmm... quite strange. When I was looking into it I was told I would have to study for an approved degree at Newcastle uni.
    Looking into it? Where? With who? When I applied, admittedly a while ago, and when I worked in selection recently, you could study for any degree to prove you had a "trainable mind" and had to join your nearest UAS. There's certainly no list of "approved courses" in any literature I currently have access to.

    What options were you given, and by who?
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    (Original post by Wzz)
    Looking into it? Where? With who? When I applied, admittedly a while ago, and when I worked in selection recently, you could study for any degree to prove you had a "trainable mind" and had to join your nearest UAS. There's certainly no list of "approved courses" in any literature I currently have access to.

    What options were you given, and by who?
    This was written in an information booklet which was left at my school by an RAF careers guy. I still have the booklet somewhere, Ill try and dig it out. I did look into it for several years but I wear glasses and am quite short sighted now.
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    (Original post by Chris_)
    This was written in an information booklet which was left at my school by an RAF careers guy. I still have the booklet somewhere, Ill try and dig it out. I did look into it for several years but I wear glasses and am quite short sighted now.
    Please do, I'd be interested to hear. Assuming you're not too short sighted, there are still a lot of RAF jobs open to you if you're interested.
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    (Original post by Wzz)
    Please do, I'd be interested to hear. Assuming you're not too short sighted, there are still a lot of RAF jobs open to you if you're interested.
    lol, Im not blind or anything!! Just need glasses to drive and watch TV. Ill have a look for it 2moro, Im sure I still have it

    I was recently looking into the Administrative accountant position. It is still an option for me once I finish uni.
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    (Original post by Chris_)
    I was recently looking into the Administrative accountant position. It is still an option for me once I finish uni.
    The RAF doesn't have raw accountants; you have to become and Admin Officer then specialise in accounts.

    It offers a lot to someone in that trade though. Get a good degree, join on a short service commission; you could find yourself aged 22, with military experience, the Queen's Commission, and in charge, directly, of 100 men; writing their reports, and being more responsible for them than any equivalent civilian job. Stick that on your CV, and enjoy.
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    (Original post by Wzz)
    The RAF doesn't have raw accountants; you have to become and Admin Officer then specialise in accounts.
    Yea, that's what I was refering to.

    (Original post by Wzz)
    It offers a lot to someone in that trade though. Get a good degree, join on a short service commission; you could find yourself aged 22, with military experience, the Queen's Commission, and in charge, directly, of 100 men; writing their reports, and being more responsible for them than any equivalent civilian job. Stick that on your CV, and enjoy.
    You should specialise in recruitment... or do you already? What postion do you actually hold at this time, still in training or have you been through all of the stages that you mentioned in an earlier post? It really does depend what other options are open to me when I have graduated.

    I also have a quite a large problem with authority and this would probably be a very large problem if I joined the military. I dont mind being asked to do things, but I hate being ordered.
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    Also, I read somewhere that wearing glasses does not mean an automatic rejection. Do you happen to know under what conditions this would be true?
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    Might be worth adding that my dad's boss, a Harrier pilot wingcommander, has a 1sts from Imperial in Aeronautical Engineering... sure it's not vital but it sure helps...

    Ed
 
 
 
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