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Might be worth adding that my dad's boss, a Harrier pilot wingcommander, has a 1sts from Imperial in Aeronautical Engineering... sure it's not vital but it sure helps...

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It doesn't. I've served for bosses with 1st class degrees, and also for some who left school with average A levels. I have a good mate who has CDE A levels, and is a very well respected front line fast jet qualified weapons instructor, a verteran of both Gulf Wars, and an excellent bloke to have in a jet.

The RAF promotes on merit. If you're capable of getting a 1st, you have a certain type of mind which might help. My degree, class, and university have never stood in the way of my career, nor my peers.
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Also, I read somewhere that wearing glasses does not mean an automatic rejection. Do you happen to know under what conditions this would be true?
Technically, you need 6/6 vision to be a pilot. Each case is judged on its merit, and they won't turn you away at the AFCO if you turn up for an interview wearing glasses. Guys on my squadron wear them to fly, but deterioration in the service is different to before you join.

Officially, anything less that 6/6 equals rejection. If you'd like to email me at [email protected] I'll put you in touch with the OASC medics or optometrists who can help.
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You should specialise in recruitment... or do you already? What postion do you actually hold at this time, still in training or have you been through all of the stages that you mentioned in an earlier post? It really does depend what other options are open to me when I have graduated.

I also have a quite a large problem with authority and this would probably be a very large problem if I joined the military. I dont mind being asked to do things, but I hate being ordered.
No. I worked in recruitment and selection as a temporary job, but I'm a pilot primarily. I'm not willing to say where I am and in what role.

A problem with authority is likely to stop you getting through officer training to be honest. I haven't received an "order" for some time; occasionally you're told you "are to" do something, which is technically an order, but nothing firmer than that. Officer training is altogether harsher.
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Technically, you need 6/6 vision to be a pilot. Each case is judged on its merit, and they won't turn you away at the AFCO if you turn up for an interview wearing glasses. Guys on my squadron wear them to fly, but deterioration in the service is different to before you join.

Officially, anything less that 6/6 equals rejection. If you'd like to email me at [email protected] I'll put you in touch with the OASC medics or optometrists who can help.
Thanks for the info and the offer of putting me in contact with someone in a more knowledgeable situation. If I do decide I would like to look into this further it wont be for a few years so I dont think there is much point in that yet, but thanks anyway. I have only worn galsses for about a year but I think that I may need a new pair already so I dont think I stand much chance. I also have a history of glaucoma on both sides of my family, so the outlook is bleak to say the least..

As for the problem with authority, it's more a problem with tolerance of bad manners. I dont mind having to do something if it is part of the job, but I cant stand people who are deliberately dis-courteous or bad mannered because they are in a position of higher authority. Teachers like this used to really p*ss me off
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No. I worked in recruitment and selection as a temporary job, but I'm a pilot primarily. I'm not willing to say where I am and in what role.

A problem with authority is likely to stop you getting through officer training to be honest. I haven't received an "order" for some time; occasionally you're told you "are to" do something, which is technically an order, but nothing firmer than that. Officer training is altogether harsher.
Pilot in the RAF or Navy? I know alot of peeps in the RAF based in Waddington, Digby, Cranwell, Barkston Heath...
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Pilot in the RAF or Navy? I know alot of peeps in the RAF based in Waddington, Digby, Cranwell, Barkston Heath...
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You must do, being stuck in sunny Lincolnshire. I'm in the RAF, flown to Waddo a few times, obviously did officer training at Cranwell, avoided Barkston (full of Navy and Army) and once drove to Digby to handle some swords.
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You must do, being stuck in sunny Lincolnshire. I'm in the RAF, flown to Waddo a few times, obviously did officer training at Cranwell, avoided Barkston (full of Navy and Army) and once drove to Digby to handle some swords.
Not alot happens at Digby as you'll know...
Cranwell is a great place, used to go swimming there alot. Still remains the deepest pool I've ever seen
As for Barkston, I live a mile or so from there, and I can't tell you how annoying it is to have the air raid sirens blast off at 2 a.m. First time it happened i was scared ****less!
And Waddo, well, it's the king daddy of lincolnshire really isn't it
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Not alot happens at Digby as you'll know...
Cranwell is a great place, used to go swimming there alot. Still remains the deepest pool I've ever seen
As for Barkston, I live a mile or so from there, and I can't tell you how annoying it is to have the air raid sirens blast off at 2 a.m. First time it happened i was scared ****less!
And Waddo, well, it's the king daddy of lincolnshire really isn't it
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Your air raid sirens are poor officer cadets from Cranwell going through their final test camp. You won't be swimming at Cranwell right now I guess, seeing as there's some problem with the pool. I'd also say it's not a great place; most people can't wait to get out of it!
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Your air raid sirens are poor officer cadets from Cranwell going through their final test camp. You won't be swimming at Cranwell right now I guess, seeing as there's some problem with the pool. I'd also say it's not a great place; most people can't wait to get out of it!
Haven't swam there for a few years, but I remember it as being a scary experience - not being able to see the swimming pool bottom.
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Haven't swam there for a few years, but I remember it as being a scary experience - not being able to see the swimming pool bottom.
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There was some issue with it; the cleaning system, air filtration or whatever was "below standard." Hence it was closed apart from "essential training," which was officer cadets beasting their way through swim circuits...!

It's exceptionally deep, but nice and clean; you could definately see the bottom when I was last there. What was your connection with Cranwell?
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I just wanna say that i think it's great to see young girls aiming for high powered jobs - you go 4 it!
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i'm 15 and not a member of the atc and was wondering if anyone could give me any advice on getting involved with the RAF to eventually become a pilot. I've looked on the raf website but i'm still not clear on things like duties, whether or not you have to have a degree or what the fitness requirements are etc.m any advice would be useful thanks.


I am gald to see that i have some competition in trying to be a pilot and my dad works for the RAF And i know some thongs about the life like you need to go through basic traing like the RAF combat survival school when they take you out on escape and evade exercsises and survival lessons in the desert and also their is a part of drill life into it you have to do basic officer training before you can even get into basic flying school also it depends on what plane type the RAF selects you for ie fast jet, multi engine and rotary wing ie fighter,transport,helicopter and the they will take you off and select the training that that type of aircraft needs. On the whole it takes about a year or more before you even get into the most basic plane cockpit. I hope this helps you and also to find out more try the RAF website careers and ask for the RAF publications on the website they are very useful.
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i'm 15 and not a member of the atc and was wondering if anyone could give me any advice on getting involved with the RAF to eventually become a pilot. I've looked on the raf website but i'm still not clear on things like duties, whether or not you have to have a degree or what the fitness requirements are etc.m any advice would be useful thanks.
Have you gone to any careers fairs or spoken to a careers advisor?

I was patrolling at our career fair a couple of weeks ago and got approached by an RAF man, enthusiastically asking me 'what are you doing next year?!'

'I have a place at Oxford,' I reply.

'Oh,' he says, 'the RAF is too low for you then!'


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Have you gone to any careers fairs or spoken to a careers advisor?

I was patrolling at our career fair a couple of weeks ago and got approached by an RAF man, enthusiastically asking me 'what are you doing next year?!'

'I have a place at Oxford,' I reply.

'Oh,' he says, 'the RAF is too low for you then!'


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Too low for you? I'll ask the two Oxford grads I went through flying training what they think of that....!
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what are the requiremeents on eyesight for groundtrades such as electronic technician or weopens technician cos i have reall bad eyesight. any information would be a bonus
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Hornblower, what are you studying at Ox? I've got one year left at Ox after this studying Engineering.

Wzz, I'm seriously thinking about applying to the RAF to be an Engineer Officer. If you have any advice going that would be much appreciated. Also if you could find out what the fitness tests consist of that would be really usefull.

many thanks,

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Wzz, I'm seriously thinking about applying to the RAF to be an Engineer Officer. If you have any advice going that would be much appreciated. Also if you could find out what the fitness tests consist of that would be really usefull.
Got plenty of advice going for OASC, filter interviews etc, but there's so much I don't often know where to start! Drop me an email at [email protected] with any specific questions and I'll try and help.

Fitness wise, you'll only do a shuttle-run "bleep test" through selection. Once in, you'll repeat it annually, with the addition of some pressups and situps to be done within a time limit depending on age. Through officer training, stick in a bi-monthly 1.5 mile run to beat your previous time.
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I have my heart set on becoming pilot in the RAF i have been told by raf careers that i need to spend my time on the following things. Does anyone know any good websites that they would recommend on the following:
Current affairs
RAF knowledge
Spare time activities
Motivation
Fitness
These are things you need for officer selection. does anyone have useful info on becoming pilot, like what they look for, i have good vision.
raf knowledge - does anyone know a good book on the modern raf that i could buy? or detailed website?
spare time - what to do with my spare time, any activites they look for?
fitness - what parts they look for such as press ups and pull ups, running.
i have searched the forums but i find different people give different facts. any ideas on selection anyone. especially pilot
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I have my heart set on becoming pilot in the RAF i have been told by raf careers that i need to spend my time on the following things. Does anyone know any good websites that they would recommend on the following:
Current affairs
RAF knowledge
Spare time activities
Motivation
Fitness
If you really have your heart set on it, you have a little bit to learn I'm afraid...! If you want to be a pilot, you have to be an officer. One of the prime things they like to see in potential officers is initiative; you have to demonstrate the ability to think for yourself. Why are you asking for a website that can tell you how to be motivated? Why are you asking for a website that can tell you about what spare time activities you should do? Use some initiative and figure it out.

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These are things you need for officer selection. does anyone have useful info on becoming pilot, like what they look for, i have good vision.
Intelligence, initiative, integrity, honesty, fitness (medical and physical), coordination, academic ability, determination, motivation, dedication...

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raf knowledge - does anyone know a good book on the modern raf that i could buy? or detailed website?
Read the RAF News every fortnight. Any book on the modern RAF would do; go to a bookshop and see which you like! Read every page in the RAF's website for an overview; and the careers website too.

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spare time - what to do with my spare time, any activites they look for?
They do not pick someone as aircrew just because they happen to play polo or ski to a certain standard. Do whatever you enjoy, and be ready to say why you do it and what you get out of it. If you start trying to find activities you think the RAF wants, then you'll look stupid during the interview when it's obvious that you're not really interested and just wanted to impress the interviewer. Anything which can demonstrate a little bit of motivation and dedication is good. Do anything.

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fitness - what parts they look for such as press ups and pull ups, running.
To be fast jet aircrew, all round fitness is pretty important. You need to be pretty hot on running, swimming and walking for hours carrying a ton if you want to breeze officer training.

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i have searched the forums but i find different people give different facts. any ideas on selection anyone. especially pilot
Hopefully, this'll help. You'll find my email address on this and several other RAF posts if you'd like to ask some more.
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I am gald to see that i have some competition in trying to be a pilot and my dad works for the RAF And i know some thongs about the life like you need to go through basic traing like the RAF combat survival school when they take you out on escape and evade exercsises and survival lessons in the desert and also their is a part of drill life into it you have to do basic officer training before you can even get into basic flying school also it depends on what plane type the RAF selects you for ie fast jet, multi engine and rotary wing ie fighter,transport,helicopter and the they will take you off and select the training that that type of aircraft needs. On the whole it takes about a year or more before you even get into the most basic plane cockpit. I hope this helps you and also to find out more try the RAF website careers and ask for the RAF publications on the website they are very useful.
I no, I've been on the site, the selection process looks really daunting but I still can't wait till I'm old enough to apply!!
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