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Reply 20

and to everyone on here whos come up with the history of the origin of cantab etc etc ur all smart people unlike me!

Reply 21

leeshen-han
Weli if I'm not mistaken, Cantab. stands for Cantabridgiensis.
As for Oxon., it stands for Oxoniensis.
Both are latin words.


Since we're being pedantic about spelling, it's actually Cantabrigiensis. :smile:

Note that both OXONIENSIS and CANTABRIGIENSIS are adjectives (in the nominative case, not genitive, as some assume). The corresponding nouns, i.e., the names of the towns themselves, are OXONIA and CANTABRIGIA. These all originated in Mediaeval Latin, of course, and are unattested in classical sources.

Reply 22

leeshen-han
Weli if I'm not mistaken, Cantab. stands for Cantabridgiensis.
As for Oxon., it stands for Oxoniensis.
Both are latin words.


Well, actually - Cantab is a shortening for Cantabrigian.

The only other UK graduates entitled to name the institution after their names are Durham graduates - they can write Dunhelm.

J.

Reply 23

hornblower
Well, actually - Cantab is a shortening for Cantabrigian.

The only other UK graduates entitled to name the institution after their names are Durham graduates - they can write Dunhelm.


You are right insofar as Cantab is short for Cantabrigian, which is in any case the English equivalent of Cantabrigiensis, in jocular usage.

However, were talking about Oxon and Cantab in the context of degrees, in which case they are definitely abbreviations of the Latin terms. BA Cantab. = Baccalaureus Artium Cantabrigiensis. The name of the degree is Latin, likewise the name of the institution.

Dunhelm (more usually Dunelm) is short for Dunelmensis, Latin for 'of Durham'.

Reply 24

hornblower
Well, actually - Cantab is a shortening for Cantabrigian.

The only other UK graduates entitled to name the institution after their names are Durham graduates - they can write Dunhelm.

J.



If you look at a univ website, almost everybody names their university after the letters, particularly if they're proud of it!

Reply 25

Radagasty
BA Cantab. = Baccalaureus Artium Cantabrigiensis. The name of the degree is Latin, likewise the name of the institution..


Isn't it artibus, not artium?

J.

Reply 26

J.S.
If you look at a univ website, almost everybody names their university after the letters, particularly if they're proud of it!


That may be so, but they are not legally entitled to do this.

Only Oxford, Cambridge and Durham alumni are allowed to name the institution.

J.

Reply 27

hornblower
Isn't it artibus, not artium?

J.


What's the genitive plural of ars? I can't remember.

Reply 28

hornblower
That may be so, but they are not legally entitled to do this.

Only Oxford, Cambridge and Durham alumni are allowed to name the institution.

J.



Hmmm I thought you could also get BA (Open)?

Reply 29

Helenia
What's the genitive plural of ars? I can't remember.


The genitive plural is ARTIUM... ARS, -TIS is a third declension noun with a stem in -I, like MONS, -TIS and URBS, -IS.

Are you a classicist, Helenia?

Reply 30

Radagasty
The genitive plural is ARTIUM... ARS, -TIS is a third declension noun with a stem in -I, like MONS, -TIS and URBS, -IS.

Are you a classicist, Helenia?


Hell no! I'm a medic. I did Latin GCSE a long time ago, that's all. The grammar of it is kind of useful in anatomy (e.g. knowing why one muscle is flexor digitorum and another one is flexor digiti minimi thanks to the endings!)

Reply 31

Helenia
Hell no!


there's nowt wrong with being a classicist...:tongue:

Reply 32

grey faerie
there's nowt wrong with being a classicist...:tongue:


Not at all. But I was scared by the fact he might think I knew something about classics, when really my repertoire is along the lines of "Matella est in culina."

Reply 33

Helenia
Not at all. But I was scared by the fact he might think I knew something about classics, when really my repertoire is along the lines of "Matella est in culina."


hehe, it was just j/k anyway :tongue:

lol, is taht the cambridge latin course? What a legend. Metella does nothing but 'sedet' for about 3 chapters, and then moves into the kitchen.

*sarcasm*Can't think why people might get the idea that classics is a old boys type subject :rolleyes: *furiously starts scribbling a revolutionary feminist latin text book* :tongue:

Reply 34

grey faerie

lol, is taht the cambridge latin course? What a legend. Metella does nothing but 'sedet' for about 3 chapters, and then moves into the kitchen.


Hehehe, but doesn't the dog jump on the table at some point? ("Mendax!" exclamavit Grumio!) That was exciting :rolleyes:

Everyone does the Cambridge Latin course - it's fab! My cousin is working for them at the moment - they're putting it on the internet so kids can learn Latin online. Rock on.

Reply 35

I am the only one who doesnt have a clue what anyones on about? I feel very thick.

Reply 36

Tek2
I am the only one who doesnt have a clue what anyones on about? I feel very thick.


Basically, a graduate from Oxford, Cambridge or Durham is entitled to some extra letters after his name. For example:

Mr Joe Bloggs BA Hons (Oxon)
Mr John Doe BSc Hons (Cantab)
Mr David Beckham MA Hons (Dunhelm)

The Hons part is sometimes subscripted or even omitted. :smile:

J.

Reply 37

hornblower
Basically, a graduate from Oxford, Cambridge or Durham is entitled to some extra letters after his name. For example:

Mr Joe Bloggs BA Hons (Oxon)
Mr John Doe BSc Hons (Cantab)
Mr David Beckham MA Hons (Dunhelm)

The Hons part is sometimes subscripted or even omitted. :smile:

J.


I don't think you can get a BSc from Cambridge, can you? Even the NatScis graduate with BAs.

Reply 38

If you look at maps of Britain, areas in Oxford come with Oxon, but in Cambridge it's Cam, not Cantab, presumably so you don't get it mixed up with Canterbury.
What a useless piece of information...

Reply 39

Helenia
I don't think you can get a BSc from Cambridge, can you? Even the NatScis graduate with BAs.



Think you might be right, not sure.
Feeling you get MSci but not BSci? Could be completely wrong.

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