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What's your opinion on the CIA's involvement in the overthrow of Mossadeq in Iran in 1953, vienna?
open a relevant thread and ill tell you.
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Aye, we really should turn to those bastions of orientalism "The National Review and "The New Republic" for a real imparital voice, shouldn't we
no, what makes you say that? they admit their bias.
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no problem..(?)
I thought you were reffering to reading JSM's post, I apologise. Kilroy himself has already admitted to "gross factual inaccuracies" in his column anyway, so I consider it a moot point.
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Got the blame? No, it was not them that decided to try and gain control of what once was the Arab World's wealth? :rolleyes:
eh?
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au contraire, JSM has to continually restate the argument while reminding people the factual grounds of the debate. no wonder its going slowly, wading through this barrage of nonsense takes ages..i feel for the poor lad.
The factual grounds for the debate? Now, i am sure, if you were to ask JSM, (who has the advantage of having been present in this thread from the beginning), who has had to factually steer the conversation...you may be pleasantly surprised...Or, simply read through the posts, time consuming it may be...but pleasantly enlightening... :rolleyes:
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no, what makes you say that? they admit their bias.
Well the amount of times you have cited them as source material for your arguements is what drew me to suggest that...
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au contraire, JSM has to continually restate the argument while reminding people the factual grounds of the debate. no wonder its going slowly, wading through this barrage of nonsense takes ages..i feel for the poor lad.
they are not actually arguing a point, it keeps changing and dont be patronising
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Well the amount of times you have cited them as source material for your arguements is what drew me to suggest that...
i rarely cite National Review as a source. and a source of my opinion at that.
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The factual grounds for the debate? Now, i am sure, if you were to ask JSM, (who has the advantage of having been present in this thread from the beginning), who has had to factually steer the conversation...you may be pleasantly surprised...Or, simply read through the posts, time consuming it may be...but pleasantly enlightening... :rolleyes:
no i havnt i have been in and out
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The factual grounds for the debate? Now, i am sure, if you were to ask JSM, (who has the advantage of having been present in this thread from the beginning), who has had to factually steer the conversation...you may be pleasantly surprised...Or, simply read through the posts, time consuming it may be...but pleasantly enlightening... :rolleyes:
i did, hence my post. im kinda a veteran at this...

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they are not actually arguing a point, it keeps changing and dont be patronising
debates do develop to cover more than one point....
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and dont be patronising
aww, not just a wittle bit...?
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debates do develop to cover more than one point....
yes, but i dont know any longer (about 20 pages) ago what i am supposed to be defening/attacking
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i rarely cite National Review as a source. and a source of my opinion at that.
Fair enough then. I resent the accusation that I haven't read the article or are basing my arguments solely on the BBC's biased reporting of it though.
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aww, not just a wittle bit...?
im sorry, didnt you understand me. dont start this again. You tend to be a little patronising. But i dont care anymore.
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yes, but i dont know any longer (about 20 pages) ago what i am supposed to be defening/attacking
Er, well that's for you to decide...
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i did, hence my post. im kinda a veteran at this...

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I am afraid, I am yet to have noticed :rolleyes:
If you had *actually* re-read the posts your statement would read differently. When i have more time on my hands, i will paste the numerous incidents for you.....
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I am afraid, I am yet to have noticed :rolleyes:
If you had *actually* re-read the posts your statement would read differently. When i have more time on my hands, i will paste the numerous incidents for you.....
there is no point playing with words, if i translate it to vietnamese, then chinese, then french and then english. I am sure you have probably admitted somewhere in there that you are Osama bin LAden
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there is no point playing with words, if i translate it to vietnamese, then chinese, then french and then english. I am sure you have probably admitted somewhere in there that you are Osama bin LAden
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"yes"
well its true
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