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but isnt that elitist, by believing themselves better than others, and totally out of line with socialist principles.
childish point to make but i observe my poor use of language by not making my point clear enough
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Then why does the West continue to back these despotic rulers and even bring themselves to associate with such abhorrent regimes - the fault lies squarely at the feet of countries like the USA which encourage such behaviour. If we had repudiated them because of their culture and regime then maybe pressure would have forced them to change
U are very confused Vienna
well said!
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thank you for pointing this out bigcnee i have been trying to tell vienna this for a long time
tell me what? more fabrication?
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Howard it is quite clear to most rational people that the Arab culture is abhorrent to the West - justifiably so - but the slant put on the article was deliberately agressive and implied that all Arabs behaved like that - the fault lies with the Arab governments and the Western governments that support them - this article should also have attacked the West for supporting the regimes
i meant to say elements of the Arab culture - such that Howard mentioned
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Who keeps giving me BAD rep for things i write in this thread? 'Tis starting to get on my nerves!
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well said!
thank u my dear
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Who keeps giving me BAD rep for things i write in this thread? 'Tis starting to get on my nerves!
my rep has been reduced somewhat too
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well said!
*laughing*. im sorry, youve just approved a statement that concurs with Kilroys point. complete contradiction. ill ask, because im still not sure, you agree with what he said or not?
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i agree with u tina - good point
thank you dear
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childish point to make but i observe my poor use of language by not making my point clear enough
sorry, i was making my point through it about the lack of transparency in most writing.
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I think it's rude when they don't even leave their name or a reason! Someone gave me bad rep saying: I know. When i clicked on it, it took me to a post i had written a few pages back, i had had written one word: Thanks.
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So his actual problem is a lack or transparency or an inability to produce clear statements, not being a racist.
well if as he claims he meant states then his problem is that yes. but kilroy seems fairly confused...first he writes an article like this. then apologizes saying he meant states,...then when he sees he has some devotees to back him he decides to launch an attack......so its unclear!
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*laughing*. im sorry, youve just approved a statement that concurs with Kilroys point. complete contradiction. ill ask, because im still not sure, you agree with what he said or not?
Vienna ur patent disregard for any points made by Tina, Aliel or I is criminal - u are very ignorant of the context she made the point in
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well if as he claims he meant states then his problem is that yes. but kilroy seems fairly confused...first he writes an article like this. then apologizes saying he meant states,...then when he sees he has some devotees to back him he decides to launch an attack......so its unclear!
hehe, i can draw parallels between his situation and yours!
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Howard it is quite clear to most rational people that the Arab culture is abhorrent to the West - justifiably so - but the slant put on the article was deliberately agressive and implied that all Arabs behaved like that - the fault lies with the Arab governments and the Western governments that support them - this article should also have attacked the West for supporting the regimes
because the west has to prioritise (socialists must like this) and they believe that certain governments are worse than others and will therefore back (not necessarilly better) governments against others (whom they consider to be worse). It is a case of greater evils to them.
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Well, I'm sorry to say that the Arab peoples for the most part don't need much help in degrading themselves from the likes of Kilroy.

Female circumcision in the Sudan.
Women excluded for prominence, even the right to education, in other states.
Women stoned to death for adultury.
Forced marriages.

I even watched a news exert last night about a gay Palestinian taking refuge in Israel (of all places) as his family had told him he would be killed if he ever returned to their village.

What a progressive bunch they are. But obviously, all of this is America's fault isn't it?
how bigoted you are? tell me have u been to any arab country and met the people? obviously not. as for gay people....well i think you'll find prejudices against them exist in a variety of societies...including our own and america.....so its not just arabs and fine the arab states are awful at human rights no one agrees with their practices...but this does nto mean ALL arab people are like this. the ignorance of people liek you and kilroy amaze me.
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I think it's rude when they don't even leave their name or a reason! Someone gave me bad rep saying: I know. When i clicked on it, it took me to a post i had written a few pages back, i had had written one word: Thanks.
lol, although i emphasise
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Could someone just tell me who gave me BAD rep please. So i know to avoid them!!
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Tina(again), if you can quote me where Kilroy levels his claims against the Arab people as opposed to "despotic and barbarous" "Arab states" then ill be pleased to agree with you.
yesterday you were "shocked" to see an Arab supporting the evident truth in Kilroys comments because he was indeed an Arab inciting that race be put before principle. bearing in mind the liberal nature of this forum, i find it difficult not to see you as anything but a racist and a very angry one at that.

hahahaaha....me a racist! i should sooner call kilroy silk an arab lover
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Could someone just tell me who gave me BAD rep please. So i know to avoid them!!
well someone who doesnt agree with you! ill give u good rep to make up for it love!
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