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oh, ok, i just dont mind sitting next to a white man on the train if hes pissed, but i am more scared of a black man (i dont know why). Although i am capable of taking care of myself, maybe its because the only times i have ever been assulted in public (ie outside school ) has been by black blokes. So i have a logical fear, am i racist?
if you went around saying ALL black people are attackers, all blacks assault people...then yes
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it just said on the news that he's not going to lose his show
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correction i would hold HITLER responsible but not every german that ever lived!
so you hold hitler responsible for something he delegates but not the british people for something they delegate.
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ermmmmm if you're gonna debate with me....then theres no point getting offensive. if you;re gonna make jokes....then why make them so personal?

i never said that arab states have good human rights records,.....but i also dont believe in tarring all people with the same brush....the actions of a minority should not be used to attack the majority of ordinary arabs who want change but are in no position to change anything.

you hold very ethnocentric views....far from the truth....

and as for me lacking experience well considering i have visited several arab countries.....met ordinary arab people...i think i rest my case
Well, there's a lesson for you. If you don't like being offended you'd be wise not to call someone a bigot for writing down a list of truths, none of which you can deny despite your "wealth of experience" in the Arab world.
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if you went around saying ALL black people are attackers, all blacks assault people...then yes
what if that had been my only interaction with black people, would i be racist? as i wouldnt know any better
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you know what vienna...im not even gonna get into a pathetic slanging match with you, i dont like to argue with you coz ur so damn narrow minded
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oh, ok, i just dont mind sitting next to a white man on the train if hes pissed, but i am more scared of a black man (i dont know why). Although i am capable of taking care of myself, maybe its because the only times i have ever been assulted in public (ie outside school ) has been by black blokes. So i have a logical fear, am i racist?
that isnt a logical fear
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what if that had been my only interaction with black people, would i be racist? as i wouldnt know any better
JSM you're a well informed guy,....you're in touch with the media, you;re educated....you know a lot better
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JSM you're a well informed guy,....you're in touch with the media, you;re educated....you know a lot better
but if i am well educated i know that no one has a completely open mind and the media isn't ever impartial (because it can't be).
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so you hold hitler responsible for something he delegates but not the british people for something they delegate.
so you're telling me the million british people who marched against the war in iraq were delegating tony to carry out the war? did you not see signs saying NOT IN MY NAME?
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that isnt a logical fear
why not, i would associate black people with violence towards me(although its only been twice)
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what if that had been my only interaction with black people, would i be racist? as i wouldnt know any better
its streching just a little bit to suggest Kilroy is in this position he writes for a newspaper for crying out loud, and given ur grasp of the arguement i dont think it aplies to u so who is this myifical person who doesnt get out much?
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but if i am well educated i know that no one has a completely open mind and the media isn't ever impartial (because it can't be).
no the media is never impartial and yes we are all prejudiced to some extent but the media does not portray all blacks as attackers and neither does a normal education....besides i would think better of you...even though i dont agree with your views
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its streching just a little bit to suggest Kilroy is in this position he writes for a newspaper for crying out loud, and given ur grasp of the arguement i dont think it aplies to u so who is this myifical person who doesnt get out much?
and the fact that Kilroy was once an mP for labour!
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so you're telling me the million british people who marched against the war in iraq were delegating tony to carry out the war? did you not see signs saying NOT IN MY NAME?
Million? Erm......don't you mean 50,000? That means around 59,950,000.00 people didn't march against the war in Iraq. That's not to say they supported it, but it sure is a good indicator that they really couldn't give a toss one way or another.
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so you're telling me the million british people who marched against the war in iraq were delegating tony to carry out the war? did you not see signs saying NOT IN MY NAME?
they still gave him control over the country in their name

and most of them just have to oppose or else they feel that they are not sticking to their principles.

that still gave 53 million other people who were pro or at least not bothered enough to be present. Anyway it was way less than a million, i tagged along and many people were there for a good day out.

"so you hold hitler responsible for something he delegates but not the british people for something they delegate."

In a democracy the rule of the majority prevails and therefore it is the british public's fault for allowing him to be elected.
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Well, there's a lesson for you. If you don't like being offended you'd be wise not to call someone a bigot for writing down a list of truths, none of which you can deny despite your "wealth of experience" in the Arab world.
i didnt call it a wealth of experience...i just pointed out that i am qualified enough to make some kind of judgement because you implied i wasnt as wordly wise as yourself.
you pointed out problems in the arab world but like kilroy you did this in a particularly bigoted manner....i apologize if you were offended but i was offended by your original post
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its streching just a little bit to suggest Kilroy is in this position he writes for a newspaper for crying out loud, and given ur grasp of the arguement i dont think it aplies to u so who is this myifical person who doesnt get out much?
some Arab women whose husband wont let her out alone in public without an escort.
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Million? Erm......don't you mean 50,000? That means around 59,950,000.00 people didn't march against the war in Iraq. That's not to say they supported it, but it sure is a good indicator that they really couldn't give a toss one way or another.
that wasnt the point.....if you refe to the posts between JSM and myself you will see that we were debating as to whether ALL british people can always be held responsible to TB's actions
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why not, i would associate black people with violence towards me(although its only been twice)
despite the fact you know that both world wars this country has victnessed were started by whites, the man who dropped the atomic bomb was white, started every war america and britain have ever been in for that matter were white, committed the holocaust were white, were memebers of the KKK were white, introduced slavery were white and also were members of East 17 were white. surely they are reasons to associate whites with violence and evil in the last case.
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