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how kangaroo court of you
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I can't understand why people have a problem with Kilroy voicing his opinion, it is his right. Very few here agree with him, but disagreement does not give you the right to criticise him.
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(Original post by Lord Huntroyde)
I can't understand why people have a problem with Kilroy voicing his opinion, it is his right. Very few here agree with him, but disagreement does not give you the right to criticise him.
Free speech, so we can critize him. And he is free to critize what he wants.
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(Original post by Lord Huntroyde)
I can't understand why people have a problem with Kilroy voicing his opinion, it is his right. Very few here agree with him, but disagreement does not give you the right to criticise him.
So we shouldn't have a problem with him voicing his opinion as its his right but at the same time we can't criticise him. Err, do you not see the fundamental flaw in your argument?
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what facts were wrong? what facts full stop?
By "get his facts right" I mean that he shouldn't group all arabs as terrorist or claim that all arabs hate the western world etc.

Seriously.. are you simply defending this to be controversial?
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(Original post by Lord Huntroyde)
I can't understand why people have a problem with Kilroy voicing his opinion, it is his right. Very few here agree with him, but disagreement does not give you the right to criticise him.
Of course it does when it offends me!!
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Have you ever read the Express?
yeah, and i didn't see any backlash. and since when was the express the media, it's one newspaper.


maybe if you're hypersensitive and want to pick every single word and phrase and read the backlash yourself then maybe there was a backlash. But ordinary people who just read the paper didn't finish reading and think "oh wel, every muslim is horrible", every paper (except the express if im to believe you) was bending over backwards to tell us that muslims don't want to kill all of us.
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(Original post by hattori)
yeah, and i didn't see any backlash. and since when was the express the media, it's one newspaper.


maybe if you're hypersensitive and want to pick every single word and phrase and read the backlash yourself then maybe there was a backlash. But ordinary people who just read the paper didn't finish reading and think "oh wel, every muslim is horrible", every paper (except the express if im to believe you) was bending over backwards to tell us that muslims don't want to kill all of us.
Where do you get this from?

(and don't say - from reading newspapers: it's just copping-out)

It's amazing how people can interpret things differently
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(Original post by kildare)
So we shouldn't have a problem with him voicing his opinion as its his right but at the same time we can't criticise him. Err, do you not see the fundamental flaw in your argument?
You are, of course, allowed to criticise what he is saying, but you shouldn't criticise him because he said it.
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(Original post by hattori)
yeah, and i didn't see any backlash. and since when was the express the media, it's one newspaper.


maybe if you're hypersensitive and want to pick every single word and phrase and read the backlash yourself then maybe there was a backlash. But ordinary people who just read the paper didn't finish reading and think "oh wel, every muslim is horrible", every paper (except the express if im to believe you) was bending over backwards to tell us that muslims don't want to kill all of us.
The thing is Kilroy is seen as a pillar of community, someone who can help other people with their "issues" and even though some people thought he was patronising he was still well respected. So is it really right for him to carry on with his show pretending to be concerned and caring after what he wrote (considering that there is a large Muslim and indeed Arab community in the UK)?
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backlash
errm... not the MEDIA backlash we were talking about, unless it was rupert murdoch on the phone to those schools
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What can we judge him on other than how he presents himself?
you should be asking yourself, what CAN WE NOT JUDGE HIM ON?
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(Original post by hattori)
yeah, and i didn't see any backlash. and since when was the express the media, it's one newspaper.


maybe if you're hypersensitive and want to pick every single word and phrase and read the backlash yourself then maybe there was a backlash. But ordinary people who just read the paper didn't finish reading and think "oh wel, every muslim is horrible", every paper (except the express if im to believe you) was bending over backwards to tell us that muslims don't want to kill all of us.
I don't read enough British newspapers on a regular basis to debate with you on this issue although based on their stories on asylum seekers without evidence to the contrary I''d have to doubt your claim.
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You are, of course, allowed to criticise what he is saying, but you shouldn't criticise him because he said it.
Show me an example of where someone has done that in this thread.
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By "get his facts right" I mean that he shouldn't group all arabs as terrorist or claim that all arabs hate the western world etc.

Seriously.. are you simply defending this to be controversial?
no, im saying that your replacing your ideas with what he actually said.
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Show me an example of where someone has done that in this thread.
Not present.
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Show me an example of where someone has done that in this thread.
"..This will be evident in his exchanges with blacks, muslims, immigrants, single mothers, benefit claimants, catholics (in particular, he is very vitriolic to them) other politicians - he will be sarcastic, denigrating, superior, mocking and then, if challenged, will change tack and be lighthearted (sometimes hugging (women) and slapping men on the back in a display of false comraderie.
An insidious, iniquitous, slimy, smarmy and untrustworthy person!
Let's hope he does not get away with it and loses his livelihood as a tv presenter which he does not deserve.."
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you should be asking yourself, what CAN WE NOT JUDGE HIM ON?
It's an internet messageboard, we're just debating the merits of what he said. Where is the problem?
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"..This will be evident in his exchanges with blacks, muslims, immigrants, single mothers, benefit claimants, catholics (in particular, he is very vitriolic to them) other politicians - he will be sarcastic, denigrating, superior, mocking and then, if challenged, will change tack and be lighthearted (sometimes hugging (women) and slapping men on the back in a display of false comraderie.
An insidious, iniquitous, slimy, smarmy and untrustworthy person!
Let's hope he does not get away with it and loses his livelihood as a tv presenter which he does not deserve.."
or, "he should stay in his field of shoddy talk show host watched by the unemployed, not branch out with his comments like that"
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