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Yet another subfusc question!

Sorry for yet ANOTHER thread asking these questions but anyhoo..here goes..

Just received my gown through the post this morning and it has these long strips of material hanging down the back, just wondering if those are meant to be there and if so, what are you supposed to do with them?

Secondly, I read somewhere that stiletto heels are banned for matriculation. Is this so? and if so, what counts as a stiletto heel? cos the shoes I was thinking of wearing I would not exactly class them as stilettos but they taper down to a bit of a point at the bottom of the heel! Would these be banned?

Please help, Ali xxx

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Ali_04
Sorry for yet ANOTHER thread asking these questions but anyhoo..here goes..

Just received my gown through the post this morning and it has these long strips of material hanging down the back, just wondering if those are meant to be there and if so, what are you supposed to do with them?

Secondly, I read somewhere that stiletto heels are banned for matriculation. Is this so? and if so, what counts as a stiletto heel? cos the shoes I was thinking of wearing I would not exactly class them as stilettos but they taper down to a bit of a point at the bottom of the heel! Would these be banned?

Please help, Ali xxx


Yes its supposed to have those dangly bits. They just well... hang serving no real purpose whatsoever apart from getting dirty in formal hall. All very irritating but your stuck with it!

As for stiletto heels I don't know but I somehow doubt they are allowed.
Reply 2
We were told not to wear stilettos because they damage the floor in the Sheldonian.

I still wore heels, just not 'pointy' ones :biggrin:
Reply 3
There are three sizes and i've no idea which one to get. Also i got a letter in the post (OUSU one), saying i can get it off then for £35, and two weeks previously the college said you can buy it from there, but i'm not sure whether these go hand in hand, i.e. i have to fill out this form and then pick it up in college, or are these things completely different. Also, what would men be allowed as appropriate footwear - are any old black shoes ok?

cheers

Damn i hate shopping for uni :mad:

pk
Phil23
There are three sizes and i've no idea which one to get. Also i got a letter in the post (OUSU one), saying i can get it off then for £35, and two weeks previously the college said you can buy it from there, but i'm not sure whether these go hand in hand, i.e. i have to fill out this form and then pick it up in college, or are these things completely different. Also, what would men be allowed as appropriate footwear - are any old black shoes ok?

cheers

Damn i hate shopping for uni :mad:

pk


Gown size isnt majorly important. Unless you are a big guy you wont want more than medium, and if you are thin possibly small. I did that OUSU deal last year. You pick it up from the shop on the high street on the first day. It doesnt mater which you go for tbh. As long as you send off one form then it doesnt matter whether its from college/ OUSU/ elsewhere.

Any reasonably smart shoes are fine. School shoe types or suit types. Not black trainers or whatever though obviously.
Reply 5
F1 fanatic
Gown size isnt majorly important. Unless you are a big guy you wont want more than medium, and if you are thin possibly small. I did that OUSU deal last year. You pick it up from the shop on the high street on the first day. It doesnt mater which you go for tbh. As long as you send off one form then it doesnt matter whether its from college/ OUSU/ elsewhere.

Any reasonably smart shoes are fine. School shoe types or suit types. Not black trainers or whatever though obviously.


sorry if this sounds stupid, but what does a male wear under a gown? shirt and trousers, or is a gown independent, and all this hype about mortarboards....are they or are they not allowed in matric ceremonies, and if not, what is allowed for a male as a head dress?

cheers

PK
Reply 6
Dark suit, white shirt, white bow tie.

You need a mortar board - you just don't wear it (it's carried)
Phil23
sorry if this sounds stupid, but what does a male wear under a gown? shirt and trousers, or is a gown independent, and all this hype about mortarboards....are they or are they not allowed in matric veremonies, and if not, what is allowed for a male as a head dress?

cheers

PK


Ok a male wears a suit under a gown so thats:

collared shirt, trouser and jacket with white bow tie. On top of which is a gown. Black shoes. A student must have no headwear. You must have a mortarboard, but you must carry it not wear it.
Reply 8
Thanks for the clarification. One more question...Is a bow tie compulsory, because i have not got one of those yet. Can one just wear a normal long tie?
Phil23
Thanks for the clarification. One more question...Is a bow tie compulsory, because i have not got one of those yet. Can one just wear a normal long tie?


its compulsory!
Must be a white bow tie (although can be self tied)
Reply 10
Subfusc, including pictures: http://users.ox.ac.uk/~scat2466/Subfusc.htm
Reply 11
F1 fanatic
its compulsory!
Must be a white bow tie (although can be self tied)


a white bow tie! bloody unusual! Do they sell that in the gown shop in Oxford? And can i also wear a white bow tie to dinners or whatever or will it look weird using the same tie?!? This is really getting complicated now! They should have a greater provision in etiquette training in comprehensives, hehe. :rolleyes:
Reply 12
Phil23
a white bow tie! bloody unusual! Do they sell that in the gown shop in Oxford? And can i also wear a white bow tie to dinners or whatever or will it look weird using the same tie?!? This is really getting complicated now! They should have a greater provision in etiquette training in comprehensives, hehe. :rolleyes:


Well if you go to a very posh dinner/ball you might wear a white tie, but you will need to get the tailcoat suit to go with it! With dinnerjackets it is a black tie, or a coloured one if you are feeling rebellious, but white would look odd.

EDIT: any formal tailors/dress hire shop will sell white bow ties.
Reply 13
aghhh...do you need a special suit and shirt for matric too:eek:...that guy in the pic in the link posted has got some weird suit ...i got one that has a broader 'V-neck'...i.e. three button suit which when closed exposes less on the shirt...is that ok?
Reply 14
Phil23
aghhh...do you need a special suit and shirt for matric too:eek:...that guy in the pic in the link posted has got some weird suit ...i got one that has a broader 'V-neck'...i.e. three button suit which when closed exposes less on the shirt...is that ok?


Yes thats fine.
Reply 15
OldMan
Well if you go to a very posh dinner/ball you might wear a white tie, but you will need to get the tailcoat suit to go with it! With dinnerjackets it is a black tie, or a coloured one if you are feeling rebellious, but white would look odd


now this is getting complicated, lol...black bow tie and dinner suit for dinner parties, and white bow tie for matric and a funny shirt for matric and a cuff one for parties and eh...i'm so lost :confused:
Reply 16
OldMan
Yes thats fine.


oh and the shirt i've brought doesn't have black buttons...is that a prerequisite too?:biggrin:
Reply 17
Phil23
now this is getting complicated, lol...black bow tie and dinner suit for dinner parties, and white bow tie for matric and a funny shirt for matric and a cuff one for parties and eh...i'm so lost :confused:


I know exactly how you feel; matriculation dinner was like a different world to what I was used to! You soon get the hang of it though, and you won't be the only confused fresher.
Reply 18
err from what I remember last year it didn't really matter what you wore, style wise, I wore a fairly short ra-ra black skirt, stylised white shirt and stiletto black shoes. It's really no biggie, no-one cares what you wear as long as you wear the gown/black and white and that silly ribbon thing.
Reply 19
Phil - if you're not really sure about things, which is fair enough, you could wait until getting to Ox itself - there will be lots of people to help you and the shops are well used to providing what is required and giving advice!

People here are being organised but you can just wait until you get to Ox! (Though there's the aspect of cost - a normal suit would probably be cheaper elsewhere, or from a placve like M&S)