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Some A level subjects are perceived as being less challenging and respected than others (I personally disagree and this issue has been discussed elsewhere), so I was wondering if likewise certain Oxbridge degrees carry more weight ie History is more respected than ASNC, or if the degree's worth lies solely in it being an Oxbridge degree. What do people think?
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Some A level subjects are perceived as being less challenging and respected than others (I personally disagree and this issue has been discussed elsewhere), so I was wondering if likewise certain Oxbridge degrees carry more weight ie History is more respected than ASNC, or if the degree's worth lies solely in it being an Oxbridge degree. What do people think?

That really depends on what you mean by 'worth', if it's monetary worth you're talking about, then then answer is a resounding yes. Students of certain degree courses, on average earn a good deal more than others, even at Oxbridge, this is probably reflected in the applicants per acceptance ratios.
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That really depends on what you mean by 'worth', if it's monetary worth you're talking about, then then answer is a resounding yes. Students of certain degree courses, on average earn a good deal more than others, even at Oxbridge, this is probably reflected in the applicants per acceptance ratios.

Not really money issues, more how highly the 'quality' of any particualr Oxbridge degree is regarded
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Not really money issues, more how highly the 'quality' of any particualr Oxbridge degree is regarded
Definitely. If you look at, for example, the ratio of acceptances for Chemistry at Oxford (70% of applicants) to the ratio of acceptances/applicants for the medics/vet medics, the latter two are clearly harder to get into and thus require something more from their applicants. Hence, to come out of Oxbridge with a medial degree people will see it as having a higher 'quality'.

Although, in saying all that, I believe that all the Oxbridge arts subjects will ultimately be seen in a much more equal light.
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Definitely. If you look at, for example, the ratio of acceptances for Chemistry at Oxford (70% of applicants) to the ratio of acceptances/applicants for the medics/vet medics, the latter two are clearly harder to get into and thus require something more from their applicants. Hence, to come out of Oxbridge with a medial degree people will see it as having a higher 'quality'.

Although, in saying all that, I believe that all the Oxbridge arts subjects will ultimately be seen in a much more equal light.
That's not necessarily true. Medics from Oxbridge can offer encounter hindrances when they embark on their training, and some employers actually look down on them becasue of their lack of practical experience. Its nothing to do with the number of applicants per place; employers do not examine university admissions statistics as they are interested in the people they produce at the other end. Classics, for example, has one of the highest acceptance rates and also a very high employability rate.

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And for me to do any other degree than Earth Science for a career in Geology would be looked down apon by my employers - some careers need certain degrees.
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And for me to do any other degree than Earth Science for a career in Geology would be looked down apon by my employers - some careers need certain degrees.
Precisely. This is a really weird thread. If you want to be a scientist, studying English at Oxford or Cambridge will be worthless. If you want to be a lawyer, studying law would allow initial entry to the profession, but having studied other subjects would certainly not hold you back.If you want a City-type job in the financial sector, any good Oxbridge degree is highly valued, but perhaps those in economics, maths etc are more valued in this particular area of employment.

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Perhaps the original poster was looking for everyone to start ****ging the land economists? :rolleyes:
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I agree with what you all said, I simply meant in terms of an outsider's point of view, not an employer. I know that had I got into read a medical subject (for example), people who haven't much idea about the varying degrees would've been more impressed with me than when I say I'm reading theology. I've even had comments such as "so, why do you want to go round fields, digging things up then?"(!!!) Also, I ALWAYS get people talking to me who automatically think it wont open any doors for me other than those leading into the ministry. Hence I'm not saying that perceptions about the quality of degrees are right, I'm saying that from personal experience, I believe that they exist.

At the same time, I know a number of linguists with Oxbridge degrees(who, like the medics Hilda Beast meantioned) find it difficult to find their footing once they graduate because people don't think that a language degree from Ox/Cam gives you enough oral experience as it's focused on literature.

I suppose it all depends on who you talk to!
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Perhaps the original poster was looking for everyone to start ****ging the land economists? :rolleyes:
That's funnny
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Perhaps the original poster was looking for everyone to start ****ging the land economists? :rolleyes:
Nah - then I'd have to take people dissing ASNC!
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Nah - then I'd have to take people dissing ASNC!
i know physics isnt quite as competitive compared to law, medicine, History, English, etc., but its still a very respected degree, even in oxbridge terms.

i mean, if i get an offer and do my masters degree in physics, it wud really be very useful.

yet a 46% applicants to places ration is pretty decent - and remember they make many more offers than places to......
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and remember they make many more offers than places to......
Errrr, not really.
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Errrr, not really.
they do. they give out more offers than places.
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using statistics they know fairly precisely, how many will not make the offer.

they make more offers than places. there have ben threads about this.

Apparently, about 30% dont make their oxbridge offers (a bit too high i reckon, must b a bit lower i thought) and this is taken into account in the number of offers made.

there is also a small summer pool thingy, just in case by v.lucky chance there mayb the odd place to fill.....
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they make more offers than places. there have ben threads about this.

Apparently, about 30% dont make their oxbridge offers (a bit too high i reckon, must b a bit lower i thought) and this is taken into account in the number of offers made.
Yeah they tend to, but although it'll vary a bit between colleges I'd say 30% would be far too high probably more likely to be around 10%. They rather assume that most people they pick will walk the exams.

Compared to the numbers other universities offer on and the fluctuations they get it's miniscule though.

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Yeah they tend to, but although it'll vary a bit between colleges I'd say 30% would be far too high probably more likely to be around 10%. They rather assume that most people they pick will walk the exams.

Compared to the numbers other universities offer on and the fluctuations they get it's miniscule though.

Alaric.
yes i agree. i thought 10% would be about correct.
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Nah - then I'd have to take people dissing ASNC!
what is ASNC by the way? dont know what it stands for......
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what is ASNC by the way? dont know what it stands for......
It's Anglo-Saxon, Norse and Celtic - basically the literature and history of Wales, Ireland, England, Scandinavia and a bit of Brittany and Russia thrown in for good measure, covering approx 500-1066 . Think Vikings and Beowulf and Celtic legends!
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curiously I've never met one, maybe they're one of the species that lives in the habitat of the university libary?
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