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Well I know about the GRID and I don't study computing just picked it up from a few articles in the New Scientist about 2 yrs ago and followed it up with some research online and thought the idea of a supercomputer internet was incredibly interesting...the shear size of the project and the fact that a large number of other scientific developements (like the CERN thing) would be useless without it.

Plus it's a huge job area - scientists capable of creating GRID programs are getting snapped up all over the place - if I was looking to study CS (or any other science) I'd be looking into how I could tailor my course to tap into it.
Is this the same thing:

http://www.grid.org/about/gs/

It says that random home users download a program and connect to the internet and then it uses theyre computer. Or is that something different?
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Is this the same thing:

http://www.grid.org/about/gs/

It says that random home users download a program and connect to the internet and then it uses theyre computer. Or is that something different?
Yes it looks like a version of it - and from what they say it's mainly used for charity research to cut down on costs.

The main grid is like a I say a load of supercomputers all connected together across the world...but the idea is that scientists and other researchers can "hire" a huge amount of processing power to analyse their data, whether that power comes from 5 crays or 100,000 PC screensavers doesn't make much difference ...apart from in speed (I would imagine hiring time on the main GRID network would be quick (and expensive) while using the smaller scale distributed processing would be slower (but not nearly so pricey)
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Yes it looks like a version of it - and from what they say it's mainly used for charity research to cut down on costs.

The main grid is like a I say a load of supercomputers all connected together across the world...but the idea is that scientists and other researchers can "hire" a huge amount of processing power to analyse their data, whether that power comes from 5 crays or 100,000 PC screensavers doesn't make much difference ...apart from in speed (I would imagine hiring time on the main GRID network would be quick (and expensive) while using the smaller scale distributed processing would be slower (but not nearly so pricey)
Do you remember any other good websites on it? I havent got as much time as id like to do research on it!

Are the supercomputers on the main grid connected by the internet or some special network just for them?
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I have a wierd feeling that Cambridge are gonna ask me a question like this at my interview tomorrow so I need to have one prepared to put my mind at rest, (preferably one involving advances in Computing).

All I can think of at the moment is those cruise missiles that fly for long distances a meter or so above the ground, but I dont want to say that in case I have an anti-war interviewer!

What do you think?
Hey asked me to mention the most important invention during the last centuary and I mentioned the integrated circuit. when it comes to how recent it has to be, I don't really think it matters how you interpretate the question (This centuary , this decade, this year , this month) as long as you can argue in favour of your choice...
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Do you remember any other good websites on it? I havent got as much time as id like to do research on it!

Are the supercomputers on the main grid connected by the internet or some special network just for them?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOO

That grid is completely different!!!!!!
The grid.org is something else. The GRID thing they were talking about is a realtime use of processors.
I have the thing on grid.org, and that basically means that it downloads data and then works through it with the spare processing power, before sending the result when it is finished.

THe GRID thing (dont know what its called but ive read it) is about using the spare processing capacity of computers in real time
J

PS I THINK, this would need verificiation
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Anyone have any ideas for a backup?
you could talk about beagle 2 and the emergence of successful-yet-hardly-funded british science and technology.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOO

That grid is completely different!!!!!!
The grid.org is something else. The GRID thing they were talking about is a realtime use of processors.
I have the thing on grid.org, and that basically means that it downloads data and then works through it with the spare processing power, before sending the result when it is finished.

THe GRID thing (dont know what its called but ive read it) is about using the spare processing capacity of computers in real time
J

PS I THINK, this would need verificiation
Looking closer it looks like the Grid.org people are trying to develope a way of intergrating the processing power of lots of PCs (similar to the SETI project) *into* the overall GRID network of supercomputers (because theoretically lots of small computers working together would be the equivalent of a supercomputer)...it's an experiment on expanding the GRID into peoples homes and utilising spare PC processing power (while the grid is about utilising expensive supercomputer processing power). As I said it's a slower way of getting your data analysed.

Goat if you are subscribed to New Scientist I'd recommend searching their archives...that would be the quickest way to get some good in depth analysis of what the whole thing is about

Alternatively this site: http://www.gridforum.org/L_About/about.htm looks quite useful (and it is related to the hardcore GRID network not the experimental bits around the edges.)

In the UK the E-science regional and national centres are connected via SuperJanet (Janet is the Joint Academic Network and was the initial Uk internet...it's still the network that connects all uni computers to the internet)

http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/explain.html is a good breakdown of the development of the GRIDs (and the need for them at CERN)
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