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So what do people think about their policies?
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lol
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lol
my sentiments too, but i want a reasoned argument
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Lembit Opik is fking brilliant. That is all.
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They tell you what you want to hear (apart from the income tax thing), then by election time sell themselves to the likely winners.
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They tell you what you want to hear (apart from the income tax thing), then by election time sell themselves to the likely winners.
I noticed that, at my students conference he was late (it was his birthday and we siad he went to the pub). He said he would legalise cannabis, i mean playing it up or what.

However i got some bloke to ask Charles Kennedy whether he would consider a cameo role i nteh simpsons, maybe as barney
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More seriously speaking, I'd probably vote for them if I lived in the U.K. Not because I think they are fantastically brilliant, just because I think they're the best of a bad bunch.
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More seriously speaking, I'd probably vote for them if I lived in the U.K. Not because I think they are fantastically brilliant, just because I think they're the best of a bad bunch.
why are they the best, what do they propose apart from a supertax on the rich and more tax on those above a 100,00 which isnt that much money
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sex education from the age of 7

banning all smacking
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claim to be a real alternative to the other two parties.

essentially, they aren't.

they too subscribe to the neoliberal / free market consensus and would not effect any sort of real change.

i do like some of their (albeit very half arsed we-won't-do-anything-major-if-we-actually-get-in sorta style) socially / civil liberties policies though, even if their fulfillment of the liberal stereotype makes them a bit of a figure of fun.
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Well the free market works. Who would suggest socialism when it automatically suggests communism?
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why are they the best, what do they propose apart from a supertax on the rich and more tax on those above a 100,00 which isnt that much money
Sounds like a sensible policy. 100,000 is a lot of money by almost any standards.
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Well the free market works.
lol. you might want to expand on that a bit further if you want a response.
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sex education from the age of 7

banning all smacking
Early sex education is a proven way of reducing the rate of teen pregnancy.

I thought smacking was already banned, if it hasn't been I think it should be.
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lol. you might want to expand on that a bit further if you want a response.
I don't need a response, I believe I'm right in making that statement. It's better than socialism.
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claim to be a real alternative to the other two parties.

essentially, they aren't.

they too subscribe to the neoliberal / free market consensus and would not effect any sort of real change.

i do like some of their (albeit very half arsed we-won't-do-anything-major-if-we-actually-get-in sorta style) socially / civil liberties policies though, even if their fulfillment of the liberal stereotype makes them a bit of a figure of fun.
You're an anarcho-communist though aren't you? The chances of you finding a "real alternative" which is actually electable are to be fair, quite slim
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I don't need a response, I believe I'm right in making that statement. It's better than socialism.
Well fair enough, but just making statements is not very inducive to debate.
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Well fair enough, but just making statements is not very inducive to debate.
I'd rather not debate because I wouldn't be able to go eat.
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why are they the best, what do they propose apart from a supertax on the rich and more tax on those above a 100,00 which isnt that much money

I think in most peoples books, 100 grand is a hell of a lot of money. I do not agree with taxing 40% to all those over (* i think it's 33-5 grand or something)! Why should someone earning 100,000 grand get taxed at the same rate than someone earning *33-35* grand. I think the tax rate should be even more progressive!
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I don't need a response, I believe I'm right in making that statement. It's better than socialism.
tough, you're going to get one.

a few gems of "the market"....

358 people own as much wealth as half the world's population.

40,000 children under the age of five die each day from malnutrition and vaccine preventable disease. 33,000 children die every day in developing countries - mainly from easily preventable diseases. This is the equivalent of dropping a bomb similar to the one dropped on Hiroshima on the poor children of the world every three days.

400 million people live under military dictatorships propped up by multinationals that earn huge profits from the cheap labour these regimes provide

8.4 million children are trapped in slavery, trafficking, prostitution, debt bondage, pornography and other illicit activities. 250 million children are child labourers. 22,000 children die each year in work-related accidents.

If present rates of destruction continue, tropical forests have at most a decade of life. 80% of our world's ancient forest has been destroyed. Every two seconds, a football pitch-sized chunk of ancient forest is cut down.

The richest 200 people in the world have a combined wealth of more than $1 trillion - equal to the annual income of the poorest 47% of the earths population, some 2.5 billion people. 'The 200 richest people in the world, for instance, more than doubled their net worth between 1994 and 1998, to more than $1 trillion. Meanwhile, disparities continue to grow: In 1960, the income gap between the richest fifth of the world's population and the poorest fifth was 30 to 1; in 1997 it was 74 to 1.' »

Bill Gates could foot the cost for paying for basic education, health care and safe water supplies for the 4.4 billion people who lack basic sanitation and still be a billionaire ten times over afterwards.
oh, and the US, being the closest this world has to a free market system has...

lowest level of job security for workers, with greatest chance of being dismissed without notice or reason.

greatest chance for a worker to become unemployed without adequate unemployment and medical insurance.

less leisure time for workers, such as holiday time.

one of the most lopsided income distribution profiles.

lowest ratio of female to male earnings, in 1987 64% of the male wage.

highest incidence of poverty in the industrial world.

among the worse rankings of all advanced industrial nations for pollutant emissions into the air.

highest murder rates.

worse ranking for life expectancy and infant morality.
so glad it works so well! :rolleyes:
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