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Reply 1
I know this is harsh, but with a 2.2 you're not Masters material.
Reply 2
Blueflare
I know this is harsh, but with a 2.2 you're not Masters material.


JOKER!

Are you saying that the OP isn't ''masters material'' on the basis that you have inside knowledge in every university and you know what each institution defines as ''masters material''?

Or are you just being a know-it-all snob?
There is no other option. Please choose one.

The OP might be able to write a wicked personal statement or give reasons for their 2:2. They got into UCL economics afterall, they can't be that stoopid!
Reply 3
you could have worked harder!!! Graduating from UCL with a 2:2 is a shame.
is of thought unless you have a good reason for the 2:2 you'd have problems finding anywhere to take you
and if they would are they really worth studying there?
Reply 5
yin_patrick
I've just graduated in UCL economics with a 2:2. I want to apply to a master in finance or related subject. Any suggestion for a msc in university with good reputation....?


From what I've seen so far, you need to have a 2:1 minimum for most masters subjeccts, and even then they stipulate a 1st as the realistic minimum. Finding a reputable university that would accept a 2:2 is an oxymoron.
Reply 6
yin_patrick
I've just graduated in UCL economics with a 2:2. I want to apply to a master in finance or related subject. Any suggestion for a msc in university with good reputation....?

OP - I'd say have a look at the masters you want to do, and find out the requirements. If a 2:2 won't cut it, then have a look at step-up options like PG Certs, PG Dips - These are qualifications on thir own, and the credits will also count towards relevant masters degrees.

If can't get on to any of these, then try looking at 'Pre-Masters' courses (a little bit like access courses or foundation degrees when you are trying to get a place on an undergrad degree)

I don't know much about business MSCs, so I won't try advising any particular MA to apply for, but I would suggest that you try to pick one you think you'll enjoy, and that will benefit your future career (do you want to specialise in any particular area?)

//edit - Also, a 2:2 isn't a great result, are you sure that:
1. You want to do a Masters
2. You could do ok/pass a masters

I don't intend to be mean, but it is worth considering before you make a sizable investment of both time and money
BandManDan
From what I've seen so far, you need to have a 2:1 minimum for most masters subjeccts, and even then they stipulate a 1st as the realistic minimum. Finding a reputable university that would accept a 2:2 is an oxymoron.


You Sir do not know what you're talking about.
You really think most universities stipulate 1st as minimum?
You really think that some students do not have more to offer a masters course other than degree classification?
darigan
OP - I'd say have a look at the masters you want to do, and find out the requirements. If a 2:2 won't cut it, then have a look at step-up options like PG Certs, PG Dips - These are qualifications on thir own, and the credits will also count towards relevant masters degrees.

If can't get on to any of these, then try looking at 'Pre-Masters' courses (a little bit like access courses or foundation degrees when you are trying to get a place on an undergrad degree)

I don't know much about business MSCs, so I won't try advising any particular MA to apply for, but I would suggest that you try to pick one you think you'll enjoy, and that will benefit your future career (do you want to specialise in any particular area?)

//edit - Also, a 2:2 isn't a great result, are you sure that:
1. You want to do a Masters

2. You could do ok/pass a masters

I don't intend to be mean, but it is worth considering before you make a sizable investment of both time and money


I would echo this advice. OP have you considered starting your own business?
If you couldn't get a 2:1 at UCL what makes you think you could handle an MSc course at a good uni. This is exactly what the admission guy is going to think. How did you do in your econometric modules?
Reply 10
I can assure you that a 2ii means that most universities will be sceptical about taking you for a Masters, especially if the course is a popular one (Which Economics and Finance are!) There are only a finite amount of places and removing 2ii applicants is a good way of narrowing down a sizeable batch of applications for limited places. Especially for something as competitive as Economics or Finance courses.

This is not to say it's impossible, especially if there was a reason why you got a 2ii (illness, death of a grandmother etc). Most universities will ask you for references, so it's worth getting your personal tutor from your u'grad course to write it and ask them to mention the reason for the 2ii.

The other way might be to see if your subject course will let you do a Masters at UCL. After all, they've known you for at least 3 years and have seen your assignments and so on. They might be willing to accept you; especially if you were close to the 2ii/2i boundary.

I can only echo the sentiments expressed on this thread: it's going to cost you a fair amount of money, energy and time - be certain you can achieve it before you start, for your own sanity if nothing else. I'm completing a Masters at the moment (whilst working full time!) and it's possibly the hardest thing I've ever done; please be sure before you go for it - I'd say the same to anyone considering a Masters!!

Whatever you decide to do; all the best!
Reply 11
The advice to the OP here is absurd. Do some of you peeps even have degrees? There are many MScs designed for students who have just missed getting a 2.1 in this field and futhermore, the OP has a 2.2 in a good subject at a great university. I'd advise searching prospectuses rather than reading these replies.
nas7232
The advice to the OP here is absurd. Do some of you peeps even have degrees? There are many MScs designed for students who have just missed getting a 2.1 in this field and futhermore, the OP has a 2.2 in a good subject at a great university. I'd advise searching prospectuses rather than reading these replies.

Please show me these courses designed for those who just miss out on an upper second class. I dont think you realise just how competitive finance courses are, he has little/no chance of getting into a top uni to do finance when he against people with good degrees, and lots with work experience to add to that. OP doing GMAT/GRE and getting a stupid high score would boost your app condsierably
KimKong
JOKER!

Are you saying that the OP isn't ''masters material'' on the basis that you have inside knowledge in every university and you know what each institution defines as ''masters material''?

Or are you just being a know-it-all snob?
There is no other option. Please choose one.

The OP might be able to write a wicked personal statement or give reasons for their 2:2. They got into UCL economics afterall, they can't be that stoopid!


A Masters is an academic qualification. One needs to be reasonably academic to do it. A 2.2 demonstrates a lack of academic ability.
I don't think a Masters is the right course for someone in that position, it would be better to get some solid work experience.
Reply 14
First of all thanks for all the comments. I admit 2:2 is not a great result and I don't think my course is easy at all, I've never done a master degree obviously so i assume that the level of standard shud be high. The dilemma for me is to find a job or doing master?

Graduate with a 2:2, it's also hard for me to get a good job.

I am not looking for university like LSE, imperial, oxford etc. what i am trying to ask, if I want to have a futher study in this field (finance related) Is there anything or anywhere worth going for me? I'm from china and I dunt know much of other university in UK. Is there any good business school...(or any business school that could accept me) in london or outside london? I've reseached on the Msc finance in westminister and they do accept a 2:2, are they good? How abt Lancaster/ Manchester/Durham? or london school of business and finance? Wud it be possible for me to get into these schools?
Slick 'n' Shady

You really think most universities stipulate 1st as minimum?
You really think that some students do not have more to offer a masters course other than degree classification?


1) Reputable ones? Yes. :confused:

2) If a graduate with a 2:2 has several years of industry experience then that would obviously help (although you would expect that experience to result in a better grade), but if they're just a graduate with only their 2:2 degree then no. Although some institutions say a 2:2 is a minimum, 'good' institutions would prefer a 1st or 2:1. A simple google search will show this.

You clearly find the point of grading difficult. Why do you think there are different marks? For aesthetics?! Why not give evidence of your assumptions instead of relying on your conceited remarks? :rolleyes:
Reply 16
BandManDan
Why not give evidence of your assumptions instead of relying on your conceited remarks? :rolleyes:


The grandson of the neighbour of the favorite butcher of his uncle got a 2:2 from UCL and then went on to do a PhD at Harvard...

No seriously... what are you talking about? What evidence do YOU provide for the cr*p you write?

Why are that many of you coming here just to find someone 'weaker' to insult or discourage? I thought that the purpose of this forum was to help each other... I am sure that there exists a constructive way of helping yin_patrick (even without necessarily advising him to apply to Harvard!) But seriously if you don't want to help, then don't reply!
Reply 17
2:2 from UCL O_o... that is indeed quite a shameful result... a

Forget about second tier universities as well including York, Durham, Leeds, Manchester whatsoever. I strongly believe that they will reject you almost instantly when they see your transcript. In other words, the name of UCL won't give you any advantages in your master application.

However, if you seriously want to pursue a master degree, you may consider third tier and four tier universities like Westminster, Greenwich, etc... there are certainly very many universities take 2:2 students to fill up their finance courses...

Sorry to be harsh, but that is the reality... finance courses are always competitive at the first and second tier universities...
Reply 18
Belema
The grandson of the neighbour of the favorite butcher of his uncle got a 2:2 from UCL and then went on to do a PhD at Harvard...

No seriously... what are you talking about? What evidence do YOU provide for the cr*p you write?

Why are that many of you coming here just to find someone 'weaker' to insult or discourage? I thought that the purpose of this forum was to help each other... I am sure that there exists a constructive way of helping yin_patrick (even without necessarily advising him to apply to Harvard!) But seriously if you don't want to help, then don't reply!


I am not insulting the OP... I am being very candid to give my comments...
Reply 19
yin_patrick
First of all thanks for all the comments. I admit 2:2 is not a great result and I don't think my course is easy at all, I've never done a master degree obviously so i assume that the level of standard shud be high. The dilemma for me is to find a job or doing master?

Graduate with a 2:2, it's also hard for me to get a good job.

I am not looking for university like LSE, imperial, oxford etc. what i am trying to ask, if I want to have a futher study in this field (finance related) Is there anything or anywhere worth going for me? I'm from china and I dunt know much of other university in UK. Is there any good business school...(or any business school that could accept me) in london or outside london? I've reseached on the Msc finance in westminister and they do accept a 2:2, are they good? How abt Lancaster/ Manchester/Durham? or london school of business and finance? Wud it be possible for me to get into these schools?


Forget about Lancaster/Machester/Durham... these are all highly respected elite universities. Yet, I am about 99.99999999% certain that London School of Business and Finance will take you...

to be very very very honest with you, you have indeed wasted three years of your life and the very bright future opportunities that you could have obtained from the name of UCL...