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Twenty years ago students would have sit the S level before getting a place at cambridge. This System was stop in the 1980s beacuse it was seen as unfair towards the working class. 50 years ago any one who had been to a good school was given a place. With so many students having High grades at A level, something need to be done about this. Students can now retake As level to get a better a grade for A2, so are able to move up sometimes two grades to get that A grade. My view is that cambridge should start to use the S level again to find the best of the best from the A level students. It would find the best students rich or poor? Should the S level be used again?
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Twenty years ago students would have sit the S level before getting a place at cambridge. This System was stop in the 1980s beacuse it was seen as unfair towards the working class. 50 years ago any one who had been to a good school was given a place. With so many students having High grades at A level, something need to be done about this. Students can now retake As level to get a better a grade for A2, so are able to move up sometimes two grades to get that A grade. My view is that cambridge should start to use the S level again to find the best of the best from the A level students. It would find the best students rich or poor? Should the S level be used again?
they already have exams for a lot of subjects.

e.g.) when i apply for physics at oxford, i gotta do a maths 1 hour test.

now, i am not saying that it'll be right important or anything, but still, its their own exam, and it will be taken into account.

anyway, its the interview..............
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Twenty years ago students would have sit the S level before getting a place at cambridge. This System was stop in the 1980s beacuse it was seen as unfair towards the working class. 50 years ago any one who had been to a good school was given a place. With so many students having High grades at A level, something need to be done about this. Students can now retake As level to get a better a grade for A2, so are able to move up sometimes two grades to get that A grade. My view is that cambridge should start to use the S level again to find the best of the best from the A level students. It would find the best students rich or poor? Should the S level be used again?
It wasn't just for Cambridge, and in essence the tests still exist - Advanced Extension Awards. It's quite easy to prove if you really want to that you're very good at a subject.
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I was under the impression the modern analogy of the S-level was the AEA

Cambridge colleges are worse at having entrance exams (mine did) but I think they're likely to be going that way soon.

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damn you type faster than me!
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Cambridge should start to use it for all exams not just for maths.
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Cambridge should start to use it for all exams not just for maths.
I kind of like the fact that I'm doing academically the hardest exam in the country.
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Cambridge should start to use it for all exams not just for maths.
I though they used STEP for maths?
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I though they used STEP for maths?
The STEP is essentially the S-Level, under a different name.
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The STEP is essentially the S-Level, under a different name.

Hmmmm... I'd disagree with that statement. I don't think they are, because I don't think S level was Cambridge-specific whereas STEP always was. In terms of difficulty they're probably similar; although the people who took S levels at school always said that it was more that it was so broad than anything else. I'd say that holds true for the AEA and that's why I think the AEA is S level's successor, whether it's acknowledged to be or not. Whereas STEP, from what I've heard, is quite simply ****ing hard...
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The STEP is essentially the S-Level, under a different name.
No, I believe the S-Level existed alongside STEP.
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Hmmmm... I'd disagree with that statement. I don't think they are, because I don't think S level was Cambridge-specific whereas STEP always was. In terms of difficulty they're probably similar; although the people who took S levels at school always said that it was more that it was so broad than anything else. I'd say that holds true for the AEA and that's why I think the AEA is S level's successor, whether it's acknowledged to be or not. Whereas STEP, from what I've heard, is quite simply ****ing hard...
AEA definitely replace S Levels. STEP is a Cambridge and now Warwick thing for maths, where it used to be for other subjects as well.

As to difficulty, STEP was said to be harder for science, and S Level for arts, e.g. English...
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I thought there was also a distinction in the that STEP requires A-level knowledge but more thinking and AEAs/S-levels required a level of knowledge beyond A-level but wasn't as tricky as STEP in the thought required for questions.

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I thought there was also a distinction in the that STEP requires A-level knowledge but more thinking and AEAs/S-levels required a level of knowledge beyond A-level but wasn't as tricky as STEP in the thought required for questions.

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No, I don't think either require knowledge beyond A Level - there are no syllabi for the AEAs...You just have to use A Level content in a more demanding way.
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Twenty years ago students would have sit the S level before getting a place at cambridge. This System was stop in the 1980s beacuse it was seen as unfair towards the working class. 50 years ago any one who had been to a good school was given a place. With so many students having High grades at A level, something need to be done about this. Students can now retake As level to get a better a grade for A2, so are able to move up sometimes two grades to get that A grade. My view is that cambridge should start to use the S level again to find the best of the best from the A level students. It would find the best students rich or poor? Should the S level be used again?

I read someting in the times a few months ago that said oxbridge were heading towards exams for all subjects, appreantly it may be like critical thinking, in order to seperate the average from the cleverest.
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