*MEGATHREAD* - What course/university should I pick for my 5th choice?

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I've decided to make a thread for discussion of 5th choice options, as there seem to be quite a lot of individual threads on it at the moment. Any future threads will be merged with this one.

Firstly, remember you don't HAVE to put down a 5th choice if you don't want to. You should only apply to a course if you actually intend to go there. There is no point in applying for somewhere as a "backup" if you really don't think you will go there if you don't get into medicine. I didn't use my 5th (and 6th, at the time) option because I knew that if I didn't get into Medicine that year I would be reapplying the following year, probably with AAAA; there was no way I would have gone to uni to do anything else instead.

Secondly, most biological-ish sciences courses will be used to people applying with medical PSs, so don't worry too much about that, unless you're applying to something much more unusual. You could theoretically apply to anything you wanted but the two main options seem to be a)a biomed course with the option of transferring (bear in mind these courses are often VERY competitive and scoring highly enough to transfer is also tough; don't see this as an easy option as you could still be stuck on that degree for 3 years) or b)another biological related course, with the intention to either apply as a graduate or do something completely different. This course does not have to be biomedical science. I know of one girl who got into Natural Sciences at Cambridge via this route and subsequently did grad medicine from that. However, given that offers for this are now A*AA you may not want to go for that if your grades are not your strong point.

Whatever you go for, remember that Medicine is what you are currently going for, and try not to worry too much about the alternatives just yet!
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I want to do biomedical engineering as my fifth choice, is this okay and what are the chances of me being accepted, or should i do something else?

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It's fine, chances depend on your application/Uni you've applied too but most don't seem to mind that you have a medical personal statement, and if that's what you want to do then nope do that!
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Whatever you do don't try and alter your PS to make it a tiny bit more geared towards your 5th choice, if the admissions tutors see you arent 100% dedicated to Medicine your chances of getting an offer will fall significantly.
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would a ps aimed for medicine be any use for applying for psychology? I am planning to reapply for medicine this year but would like to put Psychology as my 5th choice in case I don't get in anywhere ( I missed my grades this year). I talk about why I enjoy psychological aspects of medicine in my ps and I have A for Psych A level. If I'm not destined to be a dr I can only find psychology as an alternatie I could be happy with-I don't want to do biomed etc.
I'm not sure if psychology departments would be put off by a ps talking about medicine.
has anyone applied for both?
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Second time you've posted this.

I doubt any decent psych department will accept you with a med PS. I've applied for both Psych and Medicine (well, applying in Oct, anyway). It would work for biomed etc, but probably not for psychology.

Still, worth a try, I guess.
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I applied for dentistry, and when I didn't get in went into psych through Extra with a new personal statement.
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What's the point? If you're aiming for medicine and you want to do medicine then why put something down that you don't want to do?
If I were you I'd put a wide array of different medical schools from ones with entry requirements under your expected grades, right up to the top universities you'd love to go to.
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no harm in putting it. if they dont take you, they dont take you. no harm done
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(Original post by Milly.x)
I want to do biomedical engineering as my fifth choice, is this okay and what are the chances of me being accepted, or should i do something else?

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I really don't think it matters what you put as a last choice, if you're considering taking it then you do have to question your commitment to medicine, and as long as you don't tailor your personal statement towards it you'll be fine.
I'm putting Maths as my 5th just in case over the next year I feel medicine isn't right for me or something awful happens? You never know do you!
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I'll reiterate what I put in your other thread: related disciplines (like biomed) will be used to having applicants applying as a back up to medicine, whereas psychology will not. Psychology is an oversubscribed course with people writing PSs dedicated to it, so it is incredibly unlikely you would get an offer as you are not showing real commitment to the subject
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I've just been looking through my options for my fifth choice and it appears it would be best to do a Life Sciences degree if I want to do a graduate medical course. I've narrowed it down to Biomedical Sciences and possibly Neuroscience. And I've narrowed my university options down to Imperial for Biomed and UCL for Biomed and Neuroscience. I was just wondering if this was maybe a bit risky?

I will be applying to UCL for Medicine, but not Imperial. I was also looking at whether they do interviews for Biomedical Sciences or not and I haven't really found a proper answer. So I was wondering if any students who have used their fifth subject choice could help me out here? I'm not sure whether applying to UCL or Imperial would be risky and I'm not sure that if there was an interview whether they'd rip me apart because of my medical applications. And also is Neuroscience particularly more competitive than Biomed?
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Just IMHO, but I don't see the point in a 5th choice that would have an offer equal to your med offers, should you get any. If you get no offers for med, but get AAA at A2, you have a better shot applying as a school leaver than as a graduate. If you miss the grades, you wouldn't get into Imperial anyway.

I had an offer of AAB for Biochem at Exeter. Pointless, as my firm was AAB at Notts.
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(Original post by Fission_Mailed)
Just IMHO, but I don't see the point in a 5th choice that would have an offer equal to your med offers, should you get any. If you get no offers for med, but get AAA at A2, you have a better shot applying as a school leaver than as a graduate. If you miss the grades, you wouldn't get into Imperial anyway.

I had an offer of AAB for Biochem at Exeter. Pointless, as my firm was AAB at Notts.
Yeah, I'm thinking I might not get any offers for medicine and I would like to go to a big university in London which isn't necessarily possible with medicine which is why I'm thinking about graduate entry for medicine. But yeah good point about the offers. How about King's? Their offer is ABB. Would that be risky and would they be a bit annoyed by me applying for medicine as well?
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Eve with the same offer you may find that there may be the possibility of flexibility with the biochem offer - this is less likely for medicine.
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(Original post by Scrubby)
Yeah, I'm thinking I might not get any offers for medicine and I would like to go to a big university in London which isn't necessarily possible with medicine which is why I'm thinking about graduate entry for medicine. But yeah good point about the offers. How about King's? Their offer is ABB. Would that be risky and would they be a bit annoyed by me applying for medicine as well?
Well, I can only go from anecdotes, but Exeter didn't seem to care I was going for med. They offered Biochem about a week and a half after I applied (and about 6 months before their medical school arm offered me a place :mad:)

As I say, if you feel that you need an insurance, take one. But make sure it is a relatively low offer. If I had missed my AAB offers, I would have been forced to apply for a lower ranking uni in the next cycle, wasting a year. ABB is a relatively high offer, but I'd feel comfortable with it as a 5th choice. Do you know if Kings interview for that course?

Edit: One more thing, I wouldn't wish grad entry medicine (especially the GAMSAT) on my worst enemy; the competition is insane. If you get the grades for med but no offers, reapply as a school leaver, you will have better odds than going for graduate entry. I've said this before, but it bears repeating.
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Well, I can only go from anecdotes, but Exeter didn't seem to care I was going for med. They offered Biochem about a week and a half after I applied (and about 6 months before their medical school arm offered me a place :mad:)

As I say, if you feel that you need an insurance, take one. But make sure it is a relatively low offer. If I had missed my AAB offers, I would have been forced to apply for a lower ranking uni in the next cycle, wasting a year. ABB is a relatively high offer, but I'd feel comfortable with it as a 5th choice. Do you know if Kings interview for that course?

Edit: One more thing, I wouldn't wish grad entry medicine (especially the GAMSAT) on my worst enemy; the competition is insane. If you get the grades for med but no offers, reapply as a school leaver, you will have better odds than going for graduate entry. I've said this before, but it bears repeating.
Yeah, I've heard bad things about graduate entry but I think I'd just avoid the GAMSAT and stick with the UKCAT. I quite like the UKCAT. And I think King's offer is pretty good. My AS grades are pretty good so I'd have to flop quite badly to not meet it. And they're a little ambiguous but I think I wouldn't need to have an interview which is a plus. But I like UCL And I just realised Imperial require BMAT for Biomed which is stupidly ridiculous. Anyway I take your point about the gap year being better but I can always decline any possible Biomed offer later on. That way I get two options and more time to think about it.
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Yeah, I've heard bad things about graduate entry but I think I'd just avoid the GAMSAT and stick with the UKCAT. I quite like the UKCAT. And I think King's offer is pretty good. My AS grades are pretty good so I'd have to flop quite badly to not meet it. And they're a little ambiguous but I think I wouldn't need to have an interview which is a plus. But I like UCL And I just realised Imperial require BMAT for Biomed which is stupidly ridiculous. Anyway I take your point about the gap year being better but I can always decline any possible Biomed offer later on. That way I get two options and more time to think about it.
A 5th choice won't hurt, so long as you don't have to put in any extra work. :p:

I'm glad your AS went well. It is easy to get complacent at A2, but equally, good early performance gives a nice cushion. Going into my final batch of exams, I needed an E in Bio, a low C in Chem and a high D in RS, but I worked hard to get the best grades I could (if you get an Impy offer, you'll need an A* anyway.)
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..If you have no intention of doing it?

I mean i don't think i could spend 3 years or so doing a course i don't particular feel happy about doing. I know you can get some unis that allow tranfers after a year or so, eg) SGUL but is it better to just reapply next year? Surely at the interview they may feel that you don't feel strongly about it..

Anyways, i think if i was going to pick a 5th choice, i'd choose Medical Physics at UCL. If medicine fails, i'd go for physics so i think its a decent compromise. But i have no idea about job prospects after :confused:
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Personally, I'm using at least 2 options for other subjects. This isn't because I'm not commited or anything, I'm just not sure of my chances at most places. So if worst comes to worst and I don't get in
for med (touch wood) I'm going to do biological sciences and apply as a graduate.

Thinking about it, despite it being more competative at graduate level you've got 3 years extra experience and surely that can only be a good thing...
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