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umm i think you do need some knowledge of surfboards if you want to go into manufacturing..... or even into instructing... it can be quite a specialised job - it will contain alot of subjects all rolled into one. and don't tell me you can become a fitness instructor without learning about the human body, nutrition and all that stuff first...
There's a course in Meat Studies somewhere on the UCAS site. Joke course or what?!
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umm i think you do need some knowledge of surfboards and their properties if you want to go into manufacturing..... or even into instructing... it can be quite a specialised job - it will contain alot of subjects all rolled into one. and don't tell me you can become a fitness instructor without learning about the human body, nutrition and all that stuff first...
I agree with what you are saying but most of the above can be provided with "on the job" training.

I go into operations and provide technical advice to surgeons on using medical devices and products supplied by our company. I give this advice during operations and thus there are serious implications if I wrongly inform them.

Do I have a degree in medicine? No, do I have a degree at all? No! (for the time being anyway).

Instead I learnt what I needed to know through my company teaching me what I needed to know.
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LoL that's all the girls think about....... surfer dudes
not all... i would want to have that perfect tan too.

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There's a course in Meat Studies somewhere on the UCAS site. Joke course or what?!
rofl.... the lecturers in these are probably those who work out those recipes on how to cook the perfect roast joint

and they probably have to think about the cuttability (viscosity equivalent) of the meat
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I have just looked at the UCAS website and was amazed at some of the courses being offered. I can't believe that people actually seriously go and study these things! (but they must or they would not be offered)
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I agree with what you are saying but most of the above can be provided with "on the job" training.

I go into operations and provide technical advice to surgeons on using medical devices and products supplied by our company. I give this advice during operations and thus there are serious implications if I wrongly inform them.

Do I have a degree in medicine? No, do I have a degree at all? No! (for the time being anyway).

Instead I learnt what I needed to know through my company teaching me what I needed to know.
As with applying for any job, any specialised experience comes in handy... the company would prefer to take someone trained already rather than train someone up. You were probably fortunate in that you were given the opportunity to learn as you were working. This surfing course does teach you some useful things; however, I agree with you that it is not really enough to merit it as a 'degree'... it is just one of those fancy names which will help TOny Blair up the percentages of people in 'Higher Education'. The content wont have changed, but the status of the education the person in question has received will have been 'upped', so to say.
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not all... i would want to have that perfect tan too.

lou xxx
is it good to be too tanned though... a girl who was part of the group i was in which went to Malaysia this summer was obsessed with tanning herself..... she was already nice and brown, and she spent every afternoon tanning till she was virtually black..... she sed something about stocking up for when she got back to england...

personally I think tans arent good if you end up with ridiculous tan lines.
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rofl.... the lecturers in these are probably those who work out those recipes on how to cook the perfect roast joint

and they probably have to think about the cuttability (viscosity equivalent) of the meat
"This lecture is suitable for vegetarians"...
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i think in australia they had david beckham studies
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i think in australia they had david beckham studies
I have heard something similair too. Apparantly it is a course examining the global impact of David Beckham as a brand or something.
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is it good to be too tanned though... a girl who was part of the group i was in which went to Malaysia this summer was obsessed with tanning herself..... she was already nice and brown, and she spent every afternoon tanning till she was virtually black..... she sed something about stocking up for when she got back to england...

personally I think tans arent good if you end up with ridiculous tan lines.
i don't really tan that much.... just go a nice brown, but it takes ages (but at least i don't burn). but i do keep my tan for ages... so i just 'topping it up' really.

lou xxx
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(but at least i don't burn
watch out lou, but parts of you probably do burn......... I used to be naive just like you until I went out to Malaysia this summer and went snorkelling in swimming trunks....... the back of my neck and my back burned..... but nothing else did.... and there was me saying to all the other guys that i didn't know what it was like to burn..... the next day they were all laughing
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watch out lou, but parts of you probably do burn......... I used to be naive just like you until I went out to Malaysia this summer and went snorkelling in swimming trunks....... the back of my neck and my back burned..... but nothing else did.... and there was me saying to all the other guys that i didn't know what it was like to burn..... the next day they were all laughing
lol, yeah my ears burn + so does my nose- but i just use suntan lotion and it's fine.

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lol, yeah my ears burn + so does my nose- but i just use suntan lotion and it's fine.

lou xxx
that's the problem when you go swimming in the sea.... no matter how good your lotion is, it won't stay on you.... suppose it's easier if ur a beach babe
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Now, I'm not saying this is a joke course (wouldn't want to offend anyone ), but it's pretty funny - University of Derby offers a BSc in Sex and Sexuality!

Well done Mr Blair, so that's how you plan on getting 50% of the population into higher education...
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Now, I'm not saying this is a joke course (wouldn't want to offend anyone ), but it's pretty funny - University of Derby offers a BSc in Sex and Sexuality!

Well done Mr Blair, so that's how you plan on getting 50% of the population into higher education...
Wonder what the practicals are like on that course...
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i think in australia they had david beckham studies
I heard somehwere that you can do that here - or at least it got on the news that someone was doing a disitation *sp* on him. My fave would have to be Klingon studies... only in America eh?
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I have just looked at the UCAS website and was amazed at some of the courses being offered. I can't believe that people actually seriously go and study these things! (but they must or they would not be offered)
You have to look at the *type* of course being offered. Most of the more vocational courses which have silly sounding titles (because they are very specific) are HNCs or HNDs and are often offered part time, both of the "meat technology" courses for instance are 2 and 1 yr courses and are supposed to be an alternative route into butchering and/or meat processing for people who've been unable to find training posts (and you'd be surprised how hard it is to find a butcher willing to take on an apprentice - although I do know someone who got taken on after his 14 yr old work experience and at 20 owns 2 of his own shops...however he was very lucky)

Any course from PPE at Oxford to Meat Technology at Thomas Denby College Leeds is only worth what you put into it.

Some people will spend 3 years on a respected course at a respective university and learn nothing of value in the workplace while others could do a part time HNC while working and expand their horizons and their job prospects considerably, to critisise the colleges for offering them this opportunity or the government for funding them is to miss the point completely.

There will always be some people who waste the opportunities presented to them (at all universities and on all courses)...but to use a minority to deny opportunities to people who will seize them is cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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You have to look at the *type* of course being offered. Most of the more vocational courses which have silly sounding titles (because they are very specific) are HNCs or HNDs and are often offered part time, both of the "meat technology" courses for instance are 2 and 1 yr courses and are supposed to be an alternative route into butchering and/or meat processing for people who've been unable to find training posts (and you'd be surprised how hard it is to find a butcher willing to take on an apprentice - although I do know someone who got taken on after his 14 yr old work experience and at 20 owns 2 of his own shops...however he was very lucky)

Any course from PPE at Oxford to Meat Technology at Thomas Denby College Leeds is only worth what you put into it.

Some people will spend 3 years on a respected course at a respective university and learn nothing of value in the workplace while others could do a part time HNC while working and expand their horizons and their job prospects considerably, to critisise the colleges for offering them this opportunity or the government for funding them is to miss the point completely.

There will always be some people who waste the opportunities presented to them (at all universities and on all courses)...but to use a minority to deny opportunities to people who will seize them is cutting off your nose to spite your face.
I'm all for alternative higher education (HND's, HNC's etc), but not when they're masked as "degrees" and are taken in institutions that offer purely vocational courses and yet are classified as Universities. The population is not getting brighter, and as always there will only be a certain amount of people able to handle a degree. Pushing everybody to do one lowers the standard required and lowers the worth of the degrees themselves.
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I'm all for alternative higher education (HND's, HNC's etc), but not when they're masked as "degrees" and are taken in institutions that offer purely vocational courses and yet are classified as Universities.
Well you're ok then - the title university is (at present) only granted to institutions capable of awarding research degrees...and the white paper only proposes granting the title to teaching facilities of the highest standard (and not vocationally based places).
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