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Trinity or St John, Cambridge

I got rejected by Trinity last month and would like to reapply again. I am an international student and find that Trinity is "financially" a very good college. The admission tutor of Trinity adviced me to re-apply to another college instead. Do you think that I should go to St John - being charged for lots of money or go to Trinity - having quite high chance to be rejected AGAIN? (it will cost an international student 13000 pounds per year) and do you know why Trinity don't want me? They told me that I am just a "near miss" candidate.
marklou
I got rejected by Trinity last month and would like to reapply again. I am an international student and find that Trinity is "financially" a very good college. The admission tutor of Trinity adviced me to re-apply to another college instead. Do you think that I should go to St John - being charged for lots of money or go to Trinity - having quite high chance to be rejected AGAIN? (it will cost an international student 13000 pounds per year) and do you know why Trinity don't want me? They told me that I am just a "near miss" candidate.

Get some more experience and stuff on your CV and try agin. Then you'll get in
J
Reply 2
foolfarian
Get some more experience and stuff on your CV and try agin. Then you'll get in
J




So which college should I choose?
Reply 3
marklou
So which college should I choose?


Generally colleges ask for re-applicants not to apply to the same college they originally applied to. As far as they are concerned they have already assessed you and they don't think it will be that beneficial for them to do it again. So I would go for St John's :smile:
Reply 4
Be careful though - I've heard that St John's has run into serious financial troubles, leading to rent hikes etc. Don't know the precise details, but it sounds pretty grim.
Reply 5
Well, I've applied for St John's myself this year for history and got rejected. It's still is one of the wealthiest colleges in Cambridge, although I've heard of their financial troubles, too. The question is, though, will the college charge you more because of that? I mean, you'll have to the full fees anyway as you're an international student, so will it make a difference?

To try at Trinity would seem risky to me (always bear in mind that in the next 1-2 years applications are likely to rise a lot, I think, because everyone wants to get in before Labour allows the unis to charge higher fees). St John's is fairly similar to Trinity I believe, very beautiful indeed, also a big college, so I'd say try there. Go and have a look at it at an open day.

Which subject have you applied to, by the way?
Reply 6
B00kwOrm
Well, I've applied for St John's myself this year for history and got rejected. It's still is one of the wealthiest colleges in Cambridge, although I've heard of their financial troubles, too. The question is, though, will the college charge you more because of that? I mean, you'll have to the full fees anyway as you're an international student, so will it make a difference?

To try at Trinity would seem risky to me (always bear in mind that in the next 1-2 years applications are likely to rise a lot, I think, because everyone wants to get in before Labour allows the unis to charge higher fees). St John's is fairly similar to Trinity I believe, very beautiful indeed, also a big college, so I'd say try there. Go and have a look at it at an open day.

Which subject have you applied to, by the way?



I apply to Trinity to study Computer Science but was considered as a near miss candidate (and was rejected). That's why I really want to reapply.

For international students I need to pay for the full tuition fee, which is 10000 pounds per year, and also the college fee, which is 3000 pounds per year. I think other fees like accommodation and meals are exactly the same as a British resident.
Reply 7
I got an offer from Trinity for Computer Science starting in 2004 (I have to get A's in Maths, Further Maths and Physics). Did you have to do a written test before your interview? I found the written test before my interview quite difficult but I think that in the interview they want to see that they can teach you, rather than expecting you to have done very well in the test. How much experience in computing did you put on your personal statement?
Reply 8
I have been told in no uncertain terms not to apply to the same college twice. I would probably be strange for admission tutors who have already rejected you to review your application again.
Reply 9
marklou
I got rejected by Trinity last month and would like to reapply again. I am an international student and find that Trinity is "financially" a very good college. The admission tutor of Trinity adviced me to re-apply to another college instead. Do you think that I should go to St John - being charged for lots of money or go to Trinity - having quite high chance to be rejected AGAIN? (it will cost an international student 13000 pounds per year) and do you know why Trinity don't want me? They told me that I am just a "near miss" candidate.


Just out of curiosity, why have you narrowed it down to these two colleges?

If you're concerned about finances, I wouldn't apply to St. John's or King's, but surely there are other colleges that are doing well financially other than Trinity (though none in quite the same league, of course).
Reply 10
marklou
So which college should I choose?


How about making an open application. Isn't that what Cambridge recommends for international applicants? I'm guessing you're a guy, so there's no risk in ending up in an all-girls college.
Reply 11
marklou
So which college should I choose?


All I can say is "I'd rather be at Oxford than at John's"
Reply 12
chrisbphd
All I can say is "I'd rather be at Oxford than at John's"


Oh dear... this old chestnut again. :smile:
Reply 13
Radagasty
Oh dear... this old chestnut again. :smile:


Well, every time you mention the college you run this risk!
Reply 14
chrisbphd
All I can say is "I'd rather be at Oxford than at John's"


Yep, Definitely agree! Balliol 2004
Reply 15
Yannis
Yep, Definitely agree! Balliol 2004


No, completely different thing. You're actually going to Oxford. We're not, we just say we'd rather be there than at St John's college here. Again and again and again.
Reply 16
Helenia
Well, every time you mention the college you run this risk!


Heh... true enough. :smile: