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    Just wondering if anyone can help me really

    I have just graduated from Coventry University with a 2:2(hons) in History and I am looking to apply for a PGCE in Secondary History.

    I have had quite a lot of experience with teaching over the years. I did things in school such as a paired reading scheme with the year 7's, some specialised educational days for some year 6 visitors when I was in year 10/11, I did my year 10 work experience in a primary school year 6 class and I did a module in my 2nd year at University where I volunteered in a year 4 class for 4 months (and i received a training certificate which can be accepted for PGCE's).

    Obviously the major flaw in all of my experience is that I do not have experience in a secondary school. This is mainly through lack of self confidence in my 2nd year at university to push myself to do it.

    What I want to know is what is classed as 'relevant experience'? Can it simply be going in and observing? Or is it actually teaching?

    I have applied for a few teaching assistant jobs that I am waiting to hear back from which would be perfect for the experience. I have developed some teaching skills that I used with Primary Education material, but will this be seen as irrelevent?

    Any advice or tips would be greatly appreciated
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    I think the best thing would be to phone the uni's your thinking of applying to and ask, as some might accept the experience you have others may not

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    If you're applying for a PGCE for secondary then they will usually want 2 weeks work experience in secondary school (just sitting there observing and helping out occasionally with small groups) in the year you plan to take your PGCE and potentially primary experience, which you already have.

    Mention in your application the dates of the experience even if you have yet to complete it, at least they know you have it lined up.. they will also want confirmation from the school you completed the work experience usually Good luck!
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    (Original post by claireanne7)
    Just wondering if anyone can help me really

    I have just graduated from Coventry University with a 2:2(hons) in History and I am looking to apply for a PGCE in Secondary History.

    I have had quite a lot of experience with teaching over the years. I did things in school such as a paired reading scheme with the year 7's, some specialised educational days for some year 6 visitors when I was in year 10/11, I did my year 10 work experience in a primary school year 6 class and I did a module in my 2nd year at University where I volunteered in a year 4 class for 4 months (and i received a training certificate which can be accepted for PGCE's).

    Obviously the major flaw in all of my experience is that I do not have experience in a secondary school. This is mainly through lack of self confidence in my 2nd year at university to push myself to do it.

    What I want to know is what is classed as 'relevant experience'? Can it simply be going in and observing? Or is it actually teaching?

    I have applied for a few teaching assistant jobs that I am waiting to hear back from which would be perfect for the experience. I have developed some teaching skills that I used with Primary Education material, but will this be seen as irrelevent?

    Any advice or tips would be greatly appreciated
    You're best off getting some experience observing some history classes in a secondary school. Without wishing to offend you, how are you going to know that teaching a bunch of 14 year olds history is for you without the relevant experience? What do you mean about lack of self confidence? How will you deliver a lesson if you don't feel that you can stand up in front of a class?

    Yes, the stuff you've done in primary schools is OK as you'll of seen examples of classroom management and the like, but you really need to get some experience working with the age group you actually want to teach.

    As for whether it should be teaching or observation, I would say that very few people who apply for a PGCE will of actually taught a class for any length of time, considering that they're not a qualified teacher. Some will however, have considerable experience as a TA and/or observing (when you should be getting involved with the kids, helping out anyway).

    Really, try and get into a secondary school for a few days a week over a few weeks and observe how the school works and some lessons. Could also try and get some experience with a youth club or something to get used to working with secondary aged kids.
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    (Original post by LTC1409)
    You're best off getting some experience observing some history classes in a secondary school. Without wishing to offend you, how are you going to know that teaching a bunch of 14 year olds history is for you without the relevant experience? What do you mean about lack of self confidence? How will you deliver a lesson if you don't feel that you can stand up in front of a class?

    Yes, the stuff you've done in primary schools is OK as you'll of seen examples of classroom management and the like, but you really need to get some experience working with the age group you actually want to teach.

    As for whether it should be teaching or observation, I would say that very few people who apply for a PGCE will of actually taught a class for any length of time, considering that they're not a qualified teacher. Some will however, have considerable experience as a TA and/or observing (when you should be getting involved with the kids, helping out anyway).

    Really, try and get into a secondary school for a few days a week over a few weeks and observe how the school works and some lessons. Could also try and get some experience with a youth club or something to get used to working with secondary aged kids.
    I think you misunderstood with the whole "lack of confidence" thing. First of all, that was almost 2 years ago, I was 19 and I was unsure as to what kind of teacher I wanted to be. I had had a lot of primary teaching experience and I was not 100% sure if that was what I wanted to do. I was apprehensive of being placed in a school possibly with older classes of 16-18 so I chose to do a placement in a primary school. It was then that I decided that, although I love teaching, I would much prefer to teach my own subject and I would prefer to interact with older children like I did through some of my volunteering during secondary school.
    I was just enquiring as to whether it had to be actual hands on teaching like I did on my placements in primary schools or as an ETA or if observing would suffice thank you for your advice though, it is greatly appreciated (and yes, i can stand up in front of a class lol I'm definitely not lacking in confidence now! )
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    (Original post by princessnavi22)
    If you're applying for a PGCE for secondary then they will usually want 2 weeks work experience in secondary school (just sitting there observing and helping out occasionally with small groups) in the year you plan to take your PGCE and potentially primary experience, which you already have.

    Mention in your application the dates of the experience even if you have yet to complete it, at least they know you have it lined up.. they will also want confirmation from the school you completed the work experience usually Good luck!
    Thanks for the reply I will be calling up a couple of schools this week to try sort out maybe going in one or two days a week for a few months, hopefully this will be ok and i can write about it in my personal statement/application
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    Hi claire, I´m in a similar position with UK secondary school experience. Basically I´m starting to observe classes her in Madrid (as this is where I am living currently and it can´t hurt) and I´ve organised observation in my old school. I´ve just emailed my choice unis to ask if it´s necessary that I have it completed by the time of the interview (which would mean taking unpaid leave) or whether or not I can have it organised for a time that is more convinient for me but will be completed after the interview process. I´ll let you know what they say.
 
 
 
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