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    Anyone who thinks they can say Labour chose to go Left might want to have a look at the Milibands' policy platform, not what certain sections of the media say. They might notice they are close to identical platforms.

    Maximising small or false dividing lines is the media's specialty, I thought people understood this by now and perhaps actually looked at the evidence, but evidently some people have not yet gained this sophistication.
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    He better take Labour back to where it belongs on the left. I'm fed up with all this "center" nonsense; since when were socialism and capitalism compatible anyway? It's a bourgeois myth.
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    Mission accomplished.
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    go Ed! feel sorry for David though... although Ed deserved it more to be fair. let's see what positive changes he brings about... but looks like it will be a while before he becomes the prime minister.
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    (Original post by Billy Pilgrim)
    He better take Labour back to where it belongs on the left. I'm fed up with all this "center" nonsense; since when were socialism and capitalism compatible anyway? It's a bourgeois myth.
    Then Labour will never be elected again if they try to propose a fully controlled state economy.
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    (Original post by Aj12)
    Then Labour will never be elected again if they try to propose a fully controlled state economy.
    Not necessarily. Don't underestimate what these next few years of severe economic hardship will do to people. Although, yes, I doubt we will ever achieve full socialism, never mind full communism, in this country in the foreseeable future. However, I wouldn't rule out large changes to the current economic system, such as a more equal distribution of wealth - with those at the top of the pyramid having to recycle much of their wealth back to the bottom.
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    (Original post by Billy Pilgrim)
    Not necessarily. Don't underestimate what these next few years of severe economic hardship will do to people. Although, yes, I doubt we will ever achieve full socialism, never mind full communism, in this country in the foreseeable future. However, I wouldn't rule out large changes to the current economic system, such as a more equal distribution of wealth - with those at the top of the pyramid having to recycle much of their wealth back to the bottom.
    Our econony is based on the banking sector. A moe controlled economy will will have these banks running as fast as they can. Then what would you like t replace the banking industry with?
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    (Original post by gower)
    I think it could be quite likely that the next government will be a coalition (especially with AV), but the Conservatives won't be in it...
    I extremely doubt that the next government will be a coalition, seeing as coalitions are extremely rare with FPTP. Who says AV will be passed? I certainly hope it isn't.

    If the Conversatives aren't in it, who exactly is going to be?
    Surely not Labour :lol: they are a broken party who don't even have anything to believe in anymore now New Labour has failed, and have completely ruined and destroyed the country. It's going to take them at least a decade and a half to redeem themselves in the eyes of Labour supporters, never mind the sensible general public, they don't even know what they're supposed to be about anymore. Dream on.
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    Being the older sibling, God that must be hard for David to take :p:
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    Those who make Ed out to be some kind of socialist psycho are deluded. Theoretically, unions should have voted for Diane, but they didn't. Union members voted for both Ed and David and David would have finished much further behind if it hadn't been for his trade union votes. Ed caught up to his brother fair and square. Personally, I think is he articulate, intelligent, does have charisma and will make a good leader. It's certainly no disaster for the Labour party.
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    (Original post by Houdizzle)
    :rolleyes: Suddenly it's 1992 again.
    1979
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    FAIL is all I can say, His opinions are **** at best
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    I would love for labour to take a more left turn and turn up the passion abit
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    He was basically voted in by the trade unions. He's now in their pockets. The members and MPs wanted David. Complete shambles.
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    As long as there is no grad tax I don't care
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    (Original post by Silent Man)
    He was basically voted in by the trade unions. He's now in their pockets. The members and MPs wanted David. Complete shambles.
    Sigh. The gaps were within 3 percent in the respective electorates, and Ed received 40% of David's second preferences had they been included. Hardly as if his support was much less than David's within the party.
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    I wanted David to win......
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    Ed is a bumbling, uncharasmatic, ugly fool. Good god, not even I thought Labour voters were that stupid.

    And Labour will never get elected with hard left principles, those ideas just don't cut it with intelligent people anymore, you'll just alienate the white guilt yuppie guardian reader vote which has kept Labour in power.
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    What an undemocratic result.
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    (Original post by Seven_Three)
    Ed is a bumbling, uncharasmatic, ugly fool. Good god, not even I thought Labour voters were that stupid.

    And Labour will never get elected with hard left principles, those ideas just don't cut it with intelligent people anymore, you'll just alienate the white guilt yuppie guardian reader vote which has kept Labour in power.
    Hi, you read any of their policy platforms recently? Ed and David are practically identical in terms of policy. Unless you consider them both hard left, you're judging by rhetoric alone, which is slightly risky business considering it was a Labour leadership election.
 
 
 
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