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    I wanted ed to win.
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    (Original post by Teveth)
    Opposition will be interesting over the next couple of years, before the coalition collapses and the country's only morally righteous major party will be back in power, where we rightfully belong.
    Could we meet up at some point? I just want to see if you're as deluded in person as you are on here...
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    (Original post by future_hopeful_uk)
    I wouldn't worry about imagining that, it wont happen unless he swaps parties!
    Yes, because the only party that can produce a prime minister is the conservatives.
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    (Original post by Teveth)
    He understands the demands from his own party?



    e country's only morally righteous major party will be back in power, where we rightfully belong.
    Do you actually believe the ******** you spout or do you just do it for lolz/
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    (Original post by Phantom_X)
    Yes, because the only party that can produce a prime minister is the conservatives.
    Well the only party that produces decent prime ministers.
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    I think this is a good thing. Labour might actually find their roots and original cause again.
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    (Original post by Dan2009)
    Got any proof of that or are you one of those people who just believes everything they read in a newspaper?
    The ballot papers came in this envelope:



    uh...huh...
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    Im so glad our PM in 5 years!
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    (Original post by TwinPoker)
    David 49.35 % Ed 50.65 %

    Very close
    Should form a shadow coalition :p:
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    (Original post by Aj12)
    Well the only party that produces decent prime ministers.
    Gordon Brown????? Sorry, cant stop laughing suggesting that.....
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    (Original post by future_hopeful_uk)
    this
    If you are interesting in a good functioning democracy, surely you would want labour to deliver a strong opposition to keep the conservatives accountable to the public?
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    Am I right in thinking David is the more New-Labour of the two? In which case this is a good thing, hopefully we'll be able to get some Socialism back into UK politics
    I feel slightly sorry for the Tories, seeing as these cuts will be useful but will probably mean they lose a lot of popularity, but on the other hand I don't want them in for another term
    And it's a shame the Lib Dems will lose all their supporters too, should have let the Tories form a minority government and go along voting for the policies they liked rather than throwing their lot in entirely
    Probably gonna be shot down for this, but it seems to me that most of the Lib Dem supporters were left-of-centre, but didn't want to vote for Labour because of their poor leadership. Expect a lot more will be defecting to Labour before 2015
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    (Original post by Abiraleft)
    I think this is a good thing. Labour might actually find their roots and original cause again.
    Bit hard considering they were set up to represent the masses of people who had effectively no rights against the aristocracy. Now we have hardly anyone with no rights and no aristocracy.
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    I watched the conference thinking 'God, when will that blonde woman ever shut up?'

    Glad Ed won. I'm a fan of 'Old Labour' myself, and I think he'll stick more to the party's traditional roots.
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    (Original post by β€ÐÏŔ™)
    If you are interesting in a good functioning democracy, surely you would want labour to deliver a strong opposition to keep the conservatives accountable to the public?
    I said i didnt want Labour electable to Government, i didnt say there shouldnt be good opposition to the tories.

    But a bunch of nut-jobs hell bent on an ideology (equality) which isnt in nature is just bonkers!
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    I predict a tory majority 2015-2025. Then zombie thatcher will arise from the dead and start eating david cameron's brains. She will then become prime minister under the title 'supreme overlord of britian' and we will once again have a real conservative government.
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    (Original post by Aesc)
    Am I right in thinking David is the more New-Labour of the two? In which case this is a good thing, hopefully we'll be able to get some Socialism back into UK politics
    I feel slightly sorry for the Tories, seeing as these cuts will be useful but will probably mean they lose a lot of popularity, but on the other hand I don't want them in for another term
    And it's a shame the Lib Dems will lose all their supporters too, should have let the Tories form a minority government and go along voting for the policies they liked rather than throwing their lot in entirely
    Probably gonna be shot down for this, but it seems to me that most of the Lib Dem supporters were left-of-centre, but didn't want to vote for Labour because of their poor leadership. Expect a lot more will be defecting to Labour before 2015
    Arguably both are New Labour, except that David is a Blairite, and Ed is a Brownite.
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    (Original post by joshphillips999)
    I predict a tory majority 2015-2025. Then zombie thatcher will arise from the dead and start eating david cameron's brains. She will then become prime minister under the title 'supreme overlord of britian' and we will once again have a real conservative government.
    She would have to have died first. She will probably outlive us all out of sheer spite....
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    (Original post by future_hopeful_uk)
    I said i didnt want Labour electable to Government, i didnt say there shouldnt be good opposition to the tories.

    But a bunch of nut-jobs hell bent on an ideology (equality) which isnt in nature is just bonkers!
    If an opposition is credible it must be electable. It is inevitable that the Conservatives will lose power within a few terms, or that the people will become dissatisfied with their governance of the country. That's just the way things go. Labour will come to power again, it is simply a matter of when - 2015? 2020? Even 2025? Regardless, it is important that a potent opposition must be capable of governing so that when the Tories surrender government, whichever party is best placed to usurp them, which is for the time being Labour, can fulfil the mandate they will have been elected on. The desire for a strong opposition is connected with the acceptance of the idea that no party can rule forever or alone.

    As for ideology, no ideology is found in nature. Perhaps some ideologies have parallels with nature, but so what? That doesn't meant we should or shouldn't adhere to them. We aren't proto-hominins, we don't have to draw inspiration from nature to find a successful way of living.
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    (Original post by Aphotic Cosmos)
    Arguably both are New Labour, except that David is a Blairite, and Ed is a Brownite.
    This.

    All you people saying Ed will go hard left and even socialist are nuts, he was a cabinet minister, he knows how to play the game and he has a shot at PM (although I doubt he will be). In a centre right country he's not going to pull the party to the left, he's going to try to regain middle England...

    Ambition will trump anything he's promised the unions to get support...
 
 
 
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