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Why do some refer to terrorists as 'cowardly'?

Note: this is by no means a justification of any forms of terrorism.

However. I often see politicians and others refer to suicide bombings as 'cowardly', referring to the perpetrators as 'cowards', etc.

Is this really accurate? As terrible as these acts are, can we really say that blowing oneself up is "lacking courage; ignobly timid and faint-hearted"?

I don't think so. I think that to do such a thing requires immense bravery. NOT that it is acceptable in any way shape or form. Any thoughts?

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Reply 1
Their actions are cowardly, as blowing yourself up to maim and kill others is not a good way to get their (twisted) agenda across.

I see your point, but you're getting a bit nitty gritty with the dictionary definition.
Reply 2
Attacking unarmed, defenceless civilians without warning hardly takes courage.

Suicide is usually (in the West anyway) seen as a cowardly act: bravery comes from facing one's fears not taking "the easy way out".
KizD
Their actions are cowardly, as blowing yourself up to maim and kill others is not a good way to get their (twisted) agenda across.


That's nothing to do with the definition of 'cowardly' though, is it?
Tonight Matthew
Note: this is by no means a justification of any forms of terrorism.

However. I often see politicians and others refer to suicide bombings as 'cowardly', referring to the perpetrators as 'cowards', etc.

Is this really accurate? As terrible as these acts are, can we really say that blowing oneself up is "lacking courage; ignobly timid and faint-hearted"?

I don't think so. I think that to do such a thing requires immense bravery. NOT that it is acceptable in any way shape or form. Any thoughts?

I see what you mean and have thought about it myself. The thing is though that these people are so brainwashed that they believe they will be in paradise moments after clicking the button or whatever. They do not risk being injured (they die instantly), or captured and they wage war on the defenceless and believe (until it is too late) that they will be with Allah in a matter of seconds. In a way the same applies for suicide. An act of courage might be seen as taking the choice which will be to the ultimate benefit of those around you (even if it is the difficult choice). Someone who sees no meaning to their existance might easily overdose or jump off a bridge but this is not necessarily an example of courage. Courage would be facing problems and trying to perservere to improve one's lot. So if you see cowardice as an absence of courage I believe suicide bombers - and to a lesser extent those who commit suicide normally - are cowards.
Reply 5
englishstudent
I see what you mean and have thought about it myself. The thing is though that these people are so brainwashed that they believe they will be in paradise moments after clicking the button or whatever. They do not risk being injured (they die instantly), or captured and they wage war on the defenceless and believe (until it is too late) that they will be with Allah in a matter of seconds. In a way the same applies for suicide. An act of courage might be seen as taking the choice which will be to the ultimate benefit of those around you (even if it is the difficult choice). Someone who sees no meaning to their existance might easily overdose or jump off a bridge but this is not necessarily an example of courage. Courage would be facing problems and trying to perservere to improve one's lot. So if you see cowardice as an absence of courage I believe suicide bombers - and to a lesser extent those who commit suicide normally - are cowards.



Terrorists come in all sorts of shapes and sizes - and beliefs. Is an Eta terrorist cowardly, or a unionist/republican terrorist cowardly - or going back to the past - a Mau mau terrorist cowardly?

What they all have in common is a lack of military might to fight against what they see as oppression. It is foolhardy for someone to come out into the open - hold their hands up and say "come and get me, I'm a terrorist". This is the reason, I would imagine, that their actions are covert - and that doesn't amount to cowardice.

We use the term cowardly as it demeans their 'strengths' in our perception. We also have used satire and ridicule to demonise our enemies as witnessed in the last war against Germany and the Germans (some of us still do it!) It is all part of being human. :frown:
yawn
Terrorists come in all sorts of shapes and sizes - and beliefs. Is an Eta terrorist cowardly, or a unionist/republican terrorist cowardly - or going back to the past - a Mau mau terrorist cowardly?

We're talking specifically about suicide bombers here I think. But to answer your question, I believe that there is a level of cowardice in targeting innocent citizens. Then again there is also cowardice (disguised as courage) from governments who refuse to address the fundamental causes of terrorism and try to combat it on the most superficial of levels. Having said all this, Islamic extremism is amongst the most difficult types of terrorism to combat because of the nihilistic nature of the beliefs and the absolute hatred and unwillingness to reach any middle ground.


What they all have in common is a lack of military might to fight against what they see as oppression. It is foolhardy for someone to come out into the open - hold their hands up and say "come and get me, I'm a terrorist". This is the reason, I would imagine, that their actions are covert - and that doesn't amount to cowardice.

Of course and there are many groups who are fighting worthy causes in the face of a stronger opponent. This still does not justify targetting civilians though I don't think.

We use the term cowardly as it demeans their 'strengths' in our perception. We also have used satire and ridicule to demonise our enemies as witnessed in the last war against Germany and the Germans (some of us still do it!) It is all part of being human. :frown:

Do you think the terrorists who blew themselves up in London were showing courage then?
Reply 7
englishstudent



Do you think the terrorists who blew themselves up in London were showing courage then?


Anyone who commits suicide for whatever reason is either suffering from some sort of mind imbalance or is so dejected that they can see no other way out of a predicament than to end their lives.

Does that require courage? I really couldn't say as I could not carry out any action that would result in the death of my person.

But then again, I'm not in the situation of those I mentioned in my first paragraph - thank God!
yawn
Anyone who commits suicide for whatever reason is either suffering from some sort of mind imbalance or is so dejected that they can see no other way out of a predicament than to end their lives.

Does that require courage?

Well to answer your question I would say no, it doesn't. Courage is not the easy way out which is what suicide is. Courage is not killing innocent people so as to enjoy an eternity filled with beautiful women in paradise with those on earth remembering you as a martyr.
Reply 9
If you truly believed that doing something that easy was going to take you straight to your God (and 70 women or whatever), you don't need courage. You'd want to do it. Staying behind and facing the consequences of what you've done takes courage. They are cowards.
Old fashioned notions of gentlemanly conduct, declaring war, not attacking the innocent and the defenceless, exhausting every alternative before turning to violence.

It would be more justified if 'we' (or our pols, governments and armed forces in our name) weren't equally guilty of the same cowardice.
ArthurOliver

It would be more justified if 'we' (or our pols, governments and armed forces in our name) weren't equally guilty of the same cowardice.

I agree, the "allied coalition" showed as much cowardice as anyone else by bombing Iraq to sh*t regardless of the death of thousands and thousands of innocents.
Reply 12
englishstudent
I agree, the "allied coalition" showed as much cowardice as anyone else by bombing Iraq to sh*t regardless of the death of thousands and thousands of innocents.


Ignoring the fact that this was one of the least bloody wars in modern history.
Bismarck
Ignoring the fact that this was one of the least bloody wars in modern history.

I am sure that piece of news will delight the 100,000 innocent Iraqis who have lost their life since the invasion began. :smile:
Reply 14
englishstudent
I am sure that piece of news will delight the 100,000 innocent Iraqis who have lost their life since the invasion began. :smile:


It will also delight the people who made up the statistic you just used. Funny how you're willing to believe discredited information as long as it supports your point of view.
Reply 15
Bismarck
It will also delight the people who made up the statistic you just used. Funny how you're willing to believe discredited information as long as it supports your point of view.


How many innocent people have died since the invasion of Iraq, according to you?
Bismarck
It will also delight the people who made up the statistic you just used. Funny how you're willing to believe discredited information as long as it supports your point of view.

Since when was The Lancet's report discredited? You can read about the report here.
Reply 17
Tonight Matthew
Note: this is by no means a justification of any forms of terrorism.

However. I often see politicians and others refer to suicide bombings as 'cowardly', referring to the perpetrators as 'cowards', etc.

Is this really accurate? As terrible as these acts are, can we really say that blowing oneself up is "lacking courage; ignobly timid and faint-hearted"?

I don't think so. I think that to do such a thing requires immense bravery. NOT that it is acceptable in any way shape or form. Any thoughts?


Well, suicide bombing is just one terrorist activity. Terrorist acts often don't involve blowing oneself up and often do involve hitting "soft targets" hence the cowardly label often attributed to terrorists.
englishstudent
I am sure that piece of news will delight the 100,000 innocent Iraqis who have lost their life since the invasion began. :smile:




Reconcile. Seriously, that site is not friendly to the US or the Iraqi invasion, it was set up specifically because of that, and yet it's total is less than 30% of yours, even at its maximum.
Reply 19
englishstudent
I am sure that piece of news will delight the 100,000 innocent Iraqis who have lost their life since the invasion began. :smile:


Which hat did you pull that number out of? Was there a white rabbit in there as well? :rolleyes: