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    (Original post by *pitseleh*)
    In the process of becoming a vegetarian? Either you are one, or you aren't. This is basically a skirting-around-the-issue way of saying no, you're prepared to rage about fur but you haven't yet bothered to give up meat.

    Also, cotton is 'much less cruel'? Cotton comes from plants, not animals. It's not cruel at all.
    I have a very high metabolism so I'm still exploring how eating a vegetarian diet would affect my weight levels. Plus, giving up meat after 20 years of it being hard-wired into my brain that I should eat meat is not an easy thing to do. I am weaning myself off, as it were. I only committed to becoming one last week, so give me some time!


    And I meant wool!
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    (Original post by The Referee)
    Cotton is a natural fiber, it comes from the cotton PLANT.
    plants have feelings too. :mmm:
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    (Original post by S1800)
    Well go to north korea if you don't like it, your lot will never get in. Without capitalism we'd be nothing
    North Korea is a disgusting dictatorship and is run by a regime who are evidently incapable of running a proper socialist economy.
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    (Original post by Teveth)
    North Korea is a disgusting dictatorship who is run by a regime who are evidently incapable of running a proper socialist economy.
    Why do we want a socialist economy?
    And what's your beef with fur anyway?
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    Members of the labour party should have paint thrown over them.
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    (Original post by Teveth)
    North Korea is a disgusting dictatorship and is run by a regime who are evidently incapable of running a proper socialist economy.
    The United Kingdom was a disgusting dictatorship which was run by a regime who were evidently incapable of running a proper socialist economy.
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    (Original post by Teveth)
    I have a very high metabolism so I'm still exploring how eating a vegetarian diet would affect my weight levels. Plus, giving up meat after 20 years of it being hard-wired into my brain that I should eat meat is not an easy thing to do. I am weaning myself off, as it were. I only committed to becoming one last week, so give me some time!


    And I meant wool!
    You're a veggie to boot :rofl:
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    (Original post by Lantulana)
    killing something soely for its fur, because that's just wasteful.
    :facepalm: That is the exact opposite to wasteful...
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    I think wearing fur simply to make a fashion statement is wrong. Fur is actually quite an impractical material in everyday life, and so we could do without it easily.

    Meat and leather are both useful - the benefits of killing animals to get them balance the moral disadvantages.
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    (Original post by Teveth)
    I have a very high metabolism so I'm still exploring how eating a vegetarian diet would affect my weight levels. Plus, giving up meat after 20 years of it being hard-wired into my brain that I should eat meat is not an easy thing to do. I am weaning myself off, as it were. I only committed to becoming one last week, so give me some time!


    And I meant wool!
    I'd been eating meat for more than 20 years before I gave it up. It's really not that hard - just invest in a decent veggie cook-book.

    Anyway, the issue isn't that you're somehow a terrible person for not having given up meat straight away; it's that you're being incredibly hypocritical by *****ing about other people's lifestyle choices when your own choices don't even reflect the position you're attempting to assume.
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    (Original post by Teveth)
    I think they should. Their clothing that is...obviously I would try to avoid the face etc. Using fur for clothing is sickening and ought to be illegal. People who wear fur are scum and they need to get the message that wearing fur clothing is NOT acceptable.

    I bet most Tory wives wear fur in private. I wouldn't be surprised if Cameron and Osborne have fox fur slippers, such is the scum and inhumane nature of Tories.
    Covering someones coat in paint means that they'll probably go buy a new one, so another animal will be killed.

    It isn't unacceptable if its legal.
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    I love my fur coat anyway, and my taxidermy animals. I don't care what a meat eating veggie says :teehee:
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    (Original post by Marsha2112)
    No they shouldn't, it's idiocy - if you cover their fur coat in paint they'll just abuy a new one. What a waste.

    Also, in Eastern europe etc, EVERYONE has one just cuz it's cold. No reason to wear them in England obvs.
    i agree, if you douse them in paint theyre just gonna go and get a new one which means another animal will have died to replace the coat you covered in paint, seems to defeat the point tbh.
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    I would have thought that defiling the fur kind of makes the animal's death an even bigger waste?
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    (Original post by alissasantiago)
    :facepalm: That is the exact opposite to wasteful...
    Killing something for the sole and only purpose of using it's fur?

    That's wasteful isn't it?
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    It would be the general opinion to your question is no.
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    personally I think an ethical system for fur production should be implemented, whereby the providence of the fur is easily traceable and the quality of the farms can be monitored for approval (just as it is for meat production). That way animal cruelty is reduced and fur doesn't have to be entirely unethical.
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    (Original post by Teveth)
    I'm an atheist with morals.
    Although I agree with most of what you've said, this statement—combined with your obvious support for the Labour party—made me laugh.
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    It's a tough one. For example, my mother has a fur coat that was passed down from her mother. My mother didn't buy it, didn't fund the fur farms and doesn't believe in the fur industry. If she chose to wear that coat and someone doused her in paint, an innocent woman would have had an expensive heirloom ruined.

    That said, buy wearing fur you send out the message that fur is acceptable. Same with fake fur - if it looks like fur, it's going to get people thinking that fur is a good thing. However, many cultures use fur as a very real tool to keep people warm, for example in Russia and Scandinavia. I don't agree with using animal products like that but I have to accept that in some countries it isn't just about fashion, it is also about actually providing warmth for people while they live and work in a very, very cold environment. Not everyone can afford an expensive Goretex jacket and in some places fur is easier and cheaper to get, and more durable. Do I have the right to be a cultural imperialist about that?

    Does the destruction of property get out-weighed by the long term deterrent that paint-throwing might have on fur wearers?

    To be honest, while I would want to spit blood and bile at anyone wearing fur in the UK, I also believe that education and compassion are the best ways of getting people to realise that the vast majority of animals killed for fur are mistreated and not used for other things such as food.

    People have the right to walk the streets without fear of attack, even if we disagree with what they are doing and what they believe in.
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    (Original post by Teveth)
    I think they should. Their clothing that is...obviously I would try to avoid the face etc. Using fur for clothing is sickening and ought to be illegal. People who wear fur are scum and they need to get the message that wearing fur clothing is NOT acceptable.
    People and institutions (such as PETA) with such double standards make me sick. They say it's immoral and unethical to eat meat, wear fur, etc. yet the actions (dousing people wearing fur coats in paint, bashing certain companies, breaking into labs and destroying equipment) taken to get that point across are in fact the very avatar of what's immoral, unethical and actually illegal. With such in-your-face hypocrisy, how do you expect any rational human being to be sympathetic towards the given cause?
 
 
 
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