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    People should really find out what Media Studies and Film Studies are before judging them. I doubt many of those calling for them to be got rid of would be able to do them.
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    (Original post by clair1987)
    You are also making the assumption that all, for example science graduates actually go into that field and that is what makes the subject have more of a worth to study, whereas there are many, for whatever reason don't go into the subject area after graduating. Wouldn't it be fair then to say that its more of a waste to teach a science student who costs 36k to train than a golf management student who costs 18k to teach?
    No im making the assumption that a science graduate, can, after graduation go back into the field of science OR non-science. A golf management student cant do science and can only do non science. Even in their own 'management' field, could they compete with an LSE management graduate in managing a FTSE100 company???
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    I think a lot of things would solve the funding crisis but will probably not get done. I doubt things will go back to the old ways (polytechnics, which government issued that though? I don't know I was too young to remember) no matter how much you like it. I see it, probably just only go back to being for the upper middle class and the rich though.
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    (Original post by Aspiringlawstudent)
    I suppose it's similar to the reason that work experience is required for some practical courses like vet science.

    I bet if you put down "i played golf once when i was a lad" they'd take anyone though.
    And you know this how? Christ almighty people like you and the OP are so amusingly stupid it can boggle the mind at times. The overheads on such non vocational degrees is incredibly low and pulling the plug on them would probably create a hole where there was once a source of employable graduates. Its the degrees like medicine and engineering which actually cost universities the most due to their dependence of specialist equipment, labs and funded research. The media studies degrees which you lol at so much actually produce a number very competent graduates who are immediately employable in the field.

    I can understand the sentiment that some degrees are more valuable than ohers. However I am willing to listen to the informed opinions of recruitment consultation/headhunter than some immature clown babbling incoherently about a job market he has little to no experience of let alone understands.
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    The value of education should not be judged in terms of employment and profit.
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    (Original post by future_hopeful_uk)
    If you dont cover second-order differential equations within your degree then i cant see it being a proper engineering degree.

    You tell me??
    Thank you for proving you're a dumbass, you sure you go to imperial? Engineering has been pretty much standardized in is BENG/MENG qualification offerings. You sound like another clown who puts all his emphasis on his institution and then gets mad when he cant find employment as his and his other disillusioned friends were too busy circle jerking over their university.
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    (Original post by Bishamon)
    The media studies degrees which you lol at so much actually produce a number very competent graduates who are immediately employable in the field.
    Then why such a low average graduate salary in these fields?

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    However I am willing to listen to the informed opinions of recruitment consultation/headhunter than some immature clown babbling incoherently about a job market he has little to no experience of let alone understands.
    The average starting salaries say it all...
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    would you class my course at northumbria as a mickey mouse degree out of curiosity?

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    (Original post by Bishamon)
    And you know this how? Christ almighty people like you and the OP are so amusingly stupid it can boggle the mind at times. The overheads on such non vocational degrees is incredibly low and pulling the plug on them would probably create a hole where there was once a source of employable graduates. Its the degrees like medicine and engineering which actually cost universities the most due to their dependence of specialist equipment, labs and funded research. The media studies degrees which you lol at so much actually produce a number very competent graduates who are immediately employable in the field.

    I can understand the sentiment that some degrees are more valuable than ohers. However I am willing to listen to the informed opinions of recruitment consultation/headhunter than some immature clown babbling incoherently about a job market he has little to no experience of let alone understands.
    Nobody cares what you have to say, you are a Bieber fan
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    (Original post by future_hopeful_uk)
    Then why such a low average graduate salary in these fields?


    The average starting salaries say it all...
    There are low average starting salaries in a number of well respected fields, what is your point? In fact when looking at it, outside of the square mile and finance related sectors its quite competitive. Only a moron uses starting salary as some kind of indication of a jobs merit.
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    (Original post by future_hopeful_uk)
    I didnt?
    I wasn't specifically making that comment to you, but other posters on this thread.
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    (Original post by lechaton-x)
    Excuse me, I don't see how you can be so elitist with ABBCCCCCCDDD?
    I think someone should have done Media Studies GCSE!

    Coming from somebody who got ABU at AS?

    Oh, and guess what? The A was in Media.

    Have fun at London Metropolitan.
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    (Original post by Bishamon)
    Thank you for proving you're a dumbass, you sure you go to imperial? Engineering has been pretty much standardized in is BENG/MENG qualification offerings. You sound like another clown who puts all his emphasis on his institution and then gets mad when he cant find employment as his and his other disillusioned friends were too busy circle jerking over their university.
    You're probably going to get this from about 100 people now, but degrees are NOT standardised..... hence why your degree probably doesnt cover 2nd order differential equations, yet its 'engineering'...

    The numbers 65 and 100 (analagous to degree defficiulties) both satisfy the rule they are above 50 (analagous to the bare minimum difficulty for a degree to be created), but the number 100 is much greater than 65.....
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    (Original post by Fried Sock)
    Nobody cares what you have to say, you are a Bieber fan
    U mad that even if u died and were reincarnated, bieber would still get more pussy in one night than u would of acquired in both lifetimes?
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    (Original post by future_hopeful_uk)
    No im making the assumption that a science graduate, can, after graduation go back into the field of science OR non-science. A golf management student cant do science and can only do non science. Even in their own 'management' field, could they compete with an LSE management graduate in managing a FTSE100 company???
    Yet probably neither the scientist or the LSE management graduate would be as good as the golf management graduate at working within the golf industry, lets not forget, its a big international area. Not only that, for golf management as far as i'm aware there are very few golf management courses meaning there is a demand for graduates. Whereas with sciences, how many science graduates are there a year? Are they all going to get science graduate jobs? No as the amount of graduates in sciences far outstrips the demand
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    because everything is just that simple.
    what is a mickey mouse degree beyond the hysteria that has been whipped up by our media and swallowed by our self superior selves?
    "golf management" etc all have their own relevance. any academic degree at a lower ranked uni is not worthless. Say one takes a degree in Maths at UEL having not done that well at A level, gains a top grade and goes on to do a higher degree at a top uni?
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    (Original post by Hylean)
    ... Idiotic question.
    I'm sorry you think that. I was interested in what you meant when you said "Media Studies, and Film Studies, is actually a very important subject in a world which is dominated by the Media" - in what way is the world dominated by the media, and why does that make media studies important/useful? If you think it's obvious then you don't have to answer *shrug*
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    Now realising that some degrees are classed as "mickey mouse", I have now started to be a complete ******* to anyone doing film or media studies. Its so fun. They get all aaaannngggrrry.
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    (Original post by Bishamon)
    There are low average starting salaries in a number of well respected fields, what is your point?
    Exactly

    I'll give you an example.... 'IT'

    The average starting salary for Imperial Computing graduates is 35,000..... so why is the average IT salary about 18,000?

    In other words, the graduates of which universities made the average 18,000 when Imperial graduates were starting on 35,000 if degrees are sooooo standardised?
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    (Original post by clair1987)
    Yet probably neither the scientist or the LSE management graduate would be as good as the golf management graduate at working within the golf industry
    and ONLY the golf industry. Yet if they had studied management at LSE they could manage in ANY industry.

    See my point?
 
 
 
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