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    Heya, looking for some information on this Engineering topic.

    Why is it so rare around the UK? The only two places I know that do the subject is Southampton and Salford which I intend in applying to. I know other universities that do similar courses but lean more towards Music Tech rather than proper Acoustics. I wouldn't mind doing something like Music Tech but Engineering sounds so much more interesting and versatile!

    Due to how obscure this course is I had to think to myself whether or not it's very respected?? I'd love to become an Acoustic Engineer but are there any other gateways? And are the job prospects high?

    I've looked into Physics/Music major/minors and also Music Tech course which does 50/50 Acoustics as well. But I'm not quite sure if it's really the right route I want to take for the job I want to go into after my degree.

    No flames about Acoustic Engineer = Sound Technician btw!! Not true D:
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    It is a niche field, which is why I guess few universities offer it. I am aware of a number of companies that employ acoustics graduates as theatre consultants, along with architectural companies that want the sound of their building modelled. I imagine it is quite fun, but I assume it would be incredibly technical with a lot of maths and physics.
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    (Original post by BluesMan)
    It is a niche field, which is why I guess few universities offer it. I am aware of a number of companies that employ acoustics graduates as theatre consultants, along with architectural companies that want the sound of their building modelled. I imagine it is quite fun, but I assume it would be incredibly technical with a lot of maths and physics.
    Oh really? Salford is world-known for it though but it's a Bsc instead of a BEng, does that matter? : S (From the looks of things, the actual course content looks pretty similar...)
    Those jobs sound amazingly interesting to me though so I think I'm definitely more into wanting to do this degree now! Just got to find alternatives to fill up my UCAS as I don't want to only apply to two obviously...

    I expect lots of Maths and Physics, which is good because I love the two subjects! (As well as Music)
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    I know a guy who did it at Salford... well haven't actually spoken to him in a year buut anyway.

    Think one of the lecturers was on telly proving that a duck's quack does make an echo a while back too IIRC>

    Lots of maths

    he had a part time job in a hi fi shop during the degree & ended up working as a computer programmer.
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    suffered a mouse slip in the previous post - the mate worked in a hi-fi shop not the guy who proved ducks can echo - dunno what the duck quack guy did during his degree tbh.

    Oh I suppose alternatives could include Electrical & Electronic Eng or Mech Eng and pick an acoustic related final year project.
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    (Original post by Joinedup)
    suffered a mouse slip in the previous post - the mate worked in a hi-fi shop not the guy who proved ducks can echo - dunno what the duck quack guy did during his degree tbh.

    Oh I suppose alternatives could include Electrical & Electronic Eng or Mech Eng and pick an acoustic related final year project.
    Ahh, thanks! I looked into Electrical Eng as a possibility, didn't actually think about Mech Eng though!

    I kinda assumed the mate was the one who worked in a hi-fi shop haha x)

    I'm glad there are good things about Salford, it's always helpful to know more about it seeing as it's rather low down on the general league tables.
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    Or just physics

    I'm rather old - I did a HND on the other side of the railtracks at what used to be called Salford tech (now I think it's called Frederick road)

    Salford uni's nicer than people seem to give it credit for imo - have you been to an open day? it's coiled in the curve of a river and that river isn't even smelly anymore, short walk to the middle of Manchester etc.
    On a sunny day it's very pleasant - though usually of course it's not very sunny.
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    (Original post by Joinedup)
    Or just physics

    I'm rather old - I did a HND on the other side of the railtracks at what used to be called Salford tech (now I think it's called Frederick road)

    Salford uni's nicer than people seem to give it credit for imo - have you been to an open day? it's coiled in the curve of a river and that river isn't even smelly anymore, short walk to the middle of Manchester etc.
    On a sunny day it's very pleasant - though usually of course it's not very sunny.
    I've considered just Physics. Or a Physics major with Music minor just to keep my music going (because I have a heavy interest in the theory part of Music ahaha, I swear there's not many like me...).

    I haven't been able to go to an open day no. I'm down South West England and so going all the way up to Manchester would cost me £60-70 AT LEAST and I just can't afford that. So I'm taking my chances by applying there but for its reputation, I want to go there. (As in reputation in Acoustics, I've learnt to not take too much notice in general league tables)

    I'm glad you say it's a nice place though! Makes me feel better. I've been to Manchester once but not near Salford so I know what the city in general is like, kinda. Although that was only one small section it's better than walking in -completely- blind!
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    Don't know much about the Salford course but I'm aware of the Southampton course, which looks really interesting. I know a few of the lecturers at the Loughborough Auto & Aero dept who teach/do research related to noise control and acoustics studies at Southampton. My advice would be, apply to Southampton and Salford, but as backups put a lttle research into other departments that have expertise in Acoustics and as another poster said - study a course like mech/elec and look to do as much acoustics as you can during the degree.
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    (Original post by Benny_b)
    Don't know much about the Salford course but I'm aware of the Southampton course, which looks really interesting. I know a few of the lecturers at the Loughborough Auto & Aero dept who teach/do research related to noise control and acoustics studies at Southampton. My advice would be, apply to Southampton and Salford, but as backups put a lttle research into other departments that have expertise in Acoustics and as another poster said - study a course like mech/elec and look to do as much acoustics as you can during the degree.
    Oooh, cheers! Sounds like Soton has a big rep. A lot of my teachers at college have mentioned Soton as well and I went there for an open day and loved it

    I'll look more into Elec & Mech Eng thanks, I'll try and get advice from my tutors as well to see what they recommend as they've been trying to help find suitable courses for me as well.

    They did mention the Tonmeister course at Guilford which is more Sound than Acoustics but it does tickle my fancy so am looking into that as well x)
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    (Original post by CrystalNeko)
    I haven't been able to go to an open day no. I'm down South West England and so going all the way up to Manchester would cost me £60-70 AT LEAST and I just can't afford that. So I'm taking my chances by applying there but for its reputation, I want to go there. (As in reputation in Acoustics, I've learnt to not take too much notice in general league tables)
    Megabus? http://uk.megabus.com/default.aspx

    Can't be worse than the trip I had to southampton for an open day, the train got stuck in a snowstorm on the way home.
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    (Original post by Joinedup)
    Megabus? http://uk.megabus.com/default.aspx

    Can't be worse than the trip I had to southampton for an open day, the train got stuck in a snowstorm on the way home.
    I've looked into Megabus. But I have no idea where the stops are in relation to the Uni (Google map confused me, I'm unfamiliar with the areas) and I'd have to travel to the next city to catch Megabus in the first place, which I also don't know where the stops are.

    It'd still take me around £30, and I don't have even that on me D:

    I'm always a bit worried about travelling via coaches anyway if I don't know where the stops are in case I'm in some random place, with train stations there's usually helpdesks so I don't mind at all xD;

    ... What really!? Ouch, bad luck there D:

    Thank you for the suggestion anyway ;-;
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    I'm sensing resistance to the idea, but it's not far from the megabus stop (shudehill) to the uni by foot. or there's a free bus to salford central station from where it's a shorter walk. or you could get a train from victoria station to salford central station which is right next to the university.

    if you're thinking about spending a lot of time and money at a place I'd say it's a good investment to go have a look at it first
    (Lecture over)
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    (Original post by Joinedup)
    I'm sensing resistance to the idea, but it's not far from the megabus stop (shudehill) to the uni by foot. or there's a free bus to salford central station from where it's a shorter walk. or you could get a train from victoria station to salford central station which is right next to the university.

    if you're thinking about spending a lot of time and money at a place I'd say it's a good investment to go have a look at it first
    (Lecture over)
    Haha, you guessed it. I am a bit resistant to going all the way up there for an open day. But I'm risking it. There's a couple places I want to apply to up North and I just can't afford it. For one thing, because of the ridiculous journey time, I'd have to stay in a hotel/B&B too which I just can't afford ;_;

    My parents could contribute yes, but I hate asking them for money...

    I think that if they call me in for an interview or something, or get invited to look around if I get an offer then I'll go then to have a proper look around. So telling me where the stop is in relation to the Uni was very helpful, thank you
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    I stayed in yha's to keep the cost down when I was doing open days- there's one in manchester now but the one I stayed at in southampton has since closed down . These aren't hostels full of smelly tramps btw - it's mostly young backpackers going around europe.

    The reason I think open days are a good idea is a slightly subtle one, I think it helps psychologically with the blues that are common when students move in to start their studies (evidence of this syndrome all over TSR for the last couple of weeks) and start wondering what they've let themselves in for.
    A lot of them get demotivated and drop out or get off to a bad start at uni.
    If you've been to a few open days I reckon you're psychologically in a better place cos your mind knows you investigated at the alternatives and actively chose the place you ended up at rather than just falling off the end of a UCAS conveyor belt.

    Just a hunch, I'm not aware of any studies on this subject - not my field anyway, if anyone reading this fancies nicking it for a dissertation they're welcome.

    If your parents would be prepared to loan/give you the money for going to some open days I'd take it.
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    (Original post by Joinedup)
    I stayed in yha's to keep the cost down when I was doing open days- there's one in manchester now but the one I stayed at in southampton has since closed down . These aren't hostels full of smelly tramps btw - it's mostly young backpackers going around europe.

    The reason I think open days are a good idea is a slightly subtle one, I think it helps psychologically with the blues that are common when students move in to start their studies (evidence of this syndrome all over TSR for the last couple of weeks) and start wondering what they've let themselves in for.
    A lot of them get demotivated and drop out or get off to a bad start at uni.
    If you've been to a few open days I reckon you're psychologically in a better place cos your mind knows you investigated at the alternatives and actively chose the place you ended up at rather than just falling off the end of a UCAS conveyor belt.

    Just a hunch, I'm not aware of any studies on this subject - not my field anyway, if anyone reading this fancies nicking it for a dissertation they're welcome.

    If your parents would be prepared to loan/give you the money for going to some open days I'd take it.
    Oops, hadn't realised I never did reply!

    That's actually an interesting point. I would have never thought of something like that but I guess it does ease the mind knowing what to expect, where to go, etc.

    I probably will go visit it. But only if I get an offer. Because it's a niche field and it's only one of two that do the specific course I want to do I want to apply for both Soton and Salford anyway. And if I get an offer from both, I'll go visit Salford because I've been to Soton before as it's closer.

    If I were applying to something like Maths where lots of Unis do it. Then yeah, I would visit all sorts of Unis to decide, but because there's only two places that do Acoustics I figured I'll wait till I get the offer before checking it out. So hopefully that should be just as pleasing psychologically as if I had visited it before submitting my application?

    Thank you for the YHA suggestion, I'll look it up!

    (I don't actually know if I've just made any sense, I'm exhuasted and it's late so I might have just dribbled gibberish!)
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    hi there, hopefully you'll be checking this just in case something popped up or because you got an email...
    you will have applied by now, but basically, Tonmeister is a good idea, hope you applied there!
    I sat and read this whole thread because I was quiiiite bored, but I have come to the conclusion that if you want to carry on musical studies of some sort then I would recommend you go for the Tonmeister course at Surrey, even though your heart is most probably set on Salford. I applied last year and didn't expect to get anywhere, i heard it was incredibly competitive. But they (russel mason) actually just look at your personal statement and call anyone who think would fit in on the course to interview. Having good knowledge of music theory can give you an edge on the interview day (at least it did for me)

    basically, it's a pretty special course, all the lecturers graduated from it in earlier years, they have a great music department, great opportunity for specialising in acoustics in the final year, as well as choosing where to work in your placement year, and you take at least one module of acoustics in each study year.

    Go to Salford though as it looks pretty awesome, never looked into it before I saw it mentioned here.
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    (Original post by elron)
    hi there, hopefully you'll be checking this just in case something popped up or because you got an email...
    you will have applied by now, but basically, Tonmeister is a good idea, hope you applied there!
    I sat and read this whole thread because I was quiiiite bored, but I have come to the conclusion that if you want to carry on musical studies of some sort then I would recommend you go for the Tonmeister course at Surrey, even though your heart is most probably set on Salford. I applied last year and didn't expect to get anywhere, i heard it was incredibly competitive. But they (russel mason) actually just look at your personal statement and call anyone who think would fit in on the course to interview. Having good knowledge of music theory can give you an edge on the interview day (at least it did for me)

    basically, it's a pretty special course, all the lecturers graduated from it in earlier years, they have a great music department, great opportunity for specialising in acoustics in the final year, as well as choosing where to work in your placement year, and you take at least one module of acoustics in each study year.

    Go to Salford though as it looks pretty awesome, never looked into it before I saw it mentioned here.
    Hiya!

    Thank you for the comment. I did actually kind of had my heart set on the Tonmeister course after having read more about it but with my grades (predicted ABB) I didn't think I'd ever get considered because while the website told me AAB, my tutor told me that they're more looking for AAA students and only those who have had masses about of work exp (I only really have theatrical work exp, not specifically music tech which is what I'd have assumed they'd have wanted) so I decided to apply for Audio Media Engineering at Surrey instead which sounds fairly similar.

    I did think to myself however that if I do manage to get AAA in August then I'd take a gap year and reapply to the Tonmeister course because I was aware it was the top course for the thing I want to do and would get me far.
    ... But with the increase in tuition fees? Guess that's out the window!

    I've got an offer from several places now, one including Salford. So am going to take a visit to see for myself which places I want to go to
    (I am reeeally hoping for an offer at the alternative Surrey course I want to do because after having reading into it more and more I am slightly leaning towards it. Definitely an insurance if they accept, will decide whether to make it a firm or not after having visited both Salford and Surrey, that is if Surrey give me an offer!)
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    Hey
    I've got an interview at Southampton for Acoustical engineering on friday this week (ahhh!) and I've had an offer from Salford as well. Have you had an interview day invite??
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    (Original post by elinora)
    Hey
    I've got an interview at Southampton for Acoustical engineering on friday this week (ahhh!) and I've had an offer from Salford as well. Have you had an interview day invite??
    Saw one of the So'ton academics on telly this week - talking about how breaking waves produce noise. programme was called the secret life of waves (IIRC) probably it's still on iplayer.
 
 
 
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