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    (Original post by ANARCHY__)
    That stung me like a poison tipped bullet.

    Truth be told, I won't be on this very much either. Just to update you, I've also become more libertarian too but to be honest, my ideas are fairly up in the air at the moment. Lord Hysteria has really left the entire forum? It'd be nice to get all four of us back on here at some point for another - maybe final - debate about our ideas.

    Well thanks for the heads up Jake. I hope you're doing well.
    Yeah I'm doing well thanks. A little busy with exams etc. but other than that I'm okay. Yourself?

    Yes Lord Hysteria made a completely silent exit a few weeks ago. I still keep in contact with him through MSN and text though - we're planning to overthrow socialism secretly, y'know. So in what ways have you become more libertarian? I've not been involved in TSR debates recently (I used to be a regular on the Israel thread until all my allies banned themselves and Holocaust deniers took over) so I'm looking for a new home. Perhaps I can persuade you to join the dark side with AnarchistNutter (and D.R.E. :P)?
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    (Original post by D.R.E)
    Ouch! I love how you guys left me out of this little love-in... I might not be an anarchist, but you know!

    That being said, I'm still feeling rather smug about the AnarchistNutter thing, I can remember (fondly and nostalgically) to those very annoying and long-winded debates...
    Of course D.R.E., you provided the fuel for the fire. Without your input, this topic wouldn't have got very far at all! I remember those too. Reading reams and reams of pages that went for ages. I remember how it used to flux in and out of semantics and then back into political philosophy. Heh. Your debates were pretty interesting to say the least. So do you still keep in touch with AnarchistNutter and do you know if he still uses the forums?

    You know, you think about how much has changed in just a couple of months it must've been and in a way, it's kind of strange how everything's diverged so quickly but I quite like it.

    (Original post by JakePearson)
    Yeah I'm doing well thanks. A little busy with exams etc. but other than that I'm okay. Yourself?

    Yes Lord Hysteria made a completely silent exit a few weeks ago. I still keep in contact with him through MSN and text though - we're planning to overthrow socialism secretly, y'know. So in what ways have you become more libertarian? I've not been involved in TSR debates recently (I used to be a regular on the Israel thread until all my allies banned themselves and Holocaust deniers took over) so I'm looking for a new home. Perhaps I can persuade you to join the dark side with AnarchistNutter (and D.R.E. :P)?
    That's good to hear. Well, I'm doing okay myself too. Like you, I've got some exams coming up but I'm not feeling that bad about them. It's just a necessary amount of work I've got to do.

    Shame about Lord Hysteria leaving so suddenly. It was nice to have discussions or listen in to discussion between him and AnarchistNutter. I'd hope he comes back on this soon enough if he hasn't quit altogether. If not, I wish you and him all the best in the overthrowal. In terms of libertarianism, I guess that comes from a growing interest in computing/coding/hacking from a social aspect. If you want more information on the ethic and what have you, click on that and take a look at any related pages. In terms of economics, well, I've always supported a free market economy and a less corporate based general business model. I like the Broken Window Fallacy and the ideas it puts forwards and, for the most part, I'd agree with it.

    As for the existence of a state, I'm unsure as to how necessary it really is. One thing I've come to find is that there is no silver bullet for all the world's cultures and so whilst I firmly believe those ideas should be incorporated into a Western society, I wouldn't say it's the definitive guide for every nation and every culture. Like you too, I'm looking for a new home (strange story about the Israel thread. I'll take a look at that when possible..) so I've just been lurking around on the technology forums. Maybe we could all create a new thread together (me, you, D.R.E., AnarchistNutter)? I've got no idea what the topic would be though.

    I might join the dark side. Depends if you have cookies.

    So hopefully people will come back to this topic pretty soon but if it doesn't happen, we ended on a good note. Hope to see all of you guys soon.

    P.S. Sorry for leaving you out of the mass quote D.R.E. I was just quoting everyone on the page I posted on. You are, of course, just as valuable as everyone else I've mentioned (maybe more so than others)!
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    thanks for killing this thread you gurning capitalist shills.
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    (Original post by ANARCHY__)
    I might join the dark side. Depends if you have cookies.
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    So....are there any people here whom fall into the spectrum of anarcho-juche? Plus what are your views on anarcho-juche?

    >_>
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    North Korea Best Korea.

    No but seriously, anarcho-juche, I think not. I mean, not in any serious capacity.
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    (Original post by littleshambles)
    thanks for killing this thread you gurning capitalist shills.
    I am still here. No worries.

    (Original post by Bagration)
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    Sorry! Still think anarchy is a valid way of organising society! As far as which 'faction', if you had to class me, anarchist without adjectives.
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    (Original post by ANARCHY__)
    Sorry! Still think anarchy is a valid way of organising society! As far as which 'faction', if you had to class me, anarchist without adjectives.
    Surely you must lean towards one 'branch' if you think anarchy is a ' valid way of organising society' (as do I)?
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    (Original post by Bagration)
    North Korea Best Korea.

    No but seriously, anarcho-juche, I think not. I mean, not in any serious capacity.
    Anarcho-juche is not a serious political view....at least, i hope not. The core principle of juche in theory (as North Korea doesn't practice it anyway whatsoever ) is supposed to be the spirit of self reliance. I guess in theory an anarcho-juche idealogy could work. Juche states that 'man is the master of everything and decides everything'. It does sound like individualistic anarchism to me in some respects. It isn't as contradictory as anarcho-fascism.
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    (Original post by IFondledAGibbon)
    Surely you must lean towards one 'branch' if you think anarchy is a ' valid way of organising society' (as do I)?
    I think there are valid arguments for each so called branch of anarchy. For example, the organisation of economy in anarcho-capitalism is, to me, just as valid as the gift economies in anarcho-communist communes in 1930s Spain.

    At the same time, I think the social organisation of any commune or grouping depends entirely on the dynamic of the community in question. By anarchy's very nature, I don't think there should be a 'silver bullet' solution and in my view, there isn't one. Therefore, although I support the idea of a stateless, classless society, how this is organised in detail is surely something that should be left up the individual communes involved.
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    (Original post by zedbrar)
    Anarcho-juche is not a serious political view....at least, i hope not. The core principle of juche in theory (as North Korea doesn't practice it anyway whatsoever ) is supposed to be the spirit of self reliance. I guess in theory an anarcho-juche idealogy could work. Juche states that 'man is the master of everything and decides everything'. It does sound like individualistic anarchism to me in some respects. It isn't as contradictory as anarcho-fascism.
    Although anarch-Juche is obviously a joke, there are some people who genuinely identify as anarcho-Maoist which always amazes me.
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    Although anarch-Juche is obviously a joke, there are some people who genuinely identify as anarcho-Maoist which always amazes me.
    Really? O_O I've just searched and it appears to be somewhat real. Possibly a small number of followers but it isn't a serous contender to other anarchist theories. I can see we are not alone in not understanding it.

    http://libcom.org/forums/theory/anar...heory-15022011
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    (Original post by zedbrar)
    Really? O_O I've just searched and it appears to be somewhat real. Possibly a small number of followers but it isn't a serous contender to other anarchist theories. I can see we are not alone in not understanding it.

    http://libcom.org/forums/theory/anar...heory-15022011
    Government without state
    So let's take this in all seriousness for a moment, ignoring the obviously flawed name. In what way can you have a government without a state? What would be its parameters, who would they rule over etc? You can't have a government without a border of some sort. It's impossible to commit to any kind of governmental power without specifying the extent of its jurisdiction.

    EDIT: Alarming to know that this guy is around my age.
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    (Original post by ANARCHY__)
    So let's take this in all seriousness for a moment, ignoring the obviously flawed name. In what way can you have a government without a state? What would be its parameters, who would they rule over etc? You can't have a government without a border of some sort. It's impossible to commit to any kind of governmental power without specifying the extent of its jurisdiction.

    EDIT: Alarming to know that this guy is around my age.
    Everyone has picked upon that "government not state" comment. He seems to be talking about governing a military to protect his socialist region from potential enemy nations until socialism can spread worldwide. His reasoning for maoism is that he adheres to the organisational methods which someone else clearly points out are centralised are very much in conflict with his idea of workers control
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    (Original post by zedbrar)
    Everyone has picked upon that "government not state" comment. He seems to be talking about governing a military to protect his socialist region from potential enemy nations until socialism can spread worldwide. His reasoning for maoism is that he adheres to the organisational methods which someone else clearly points out are centralised are very much in conflict with his idea of workers control
    Ah. I see. Well, I guess the point is a little clearer then. As you say, the person seems to be very confused about which political ideology he is adhering to but I think someone else later on admits to being the troll? Although this is never confirmed so I don't know.
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    (Original post by Lord Hysteria)
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    How's it going pal?
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    How's it going pal?
    I'm alright thanks. Going to making a blog that you guys might find interesting.
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    (Original post by Lord Hysteria)
    I'm alright thanks. Going to making a blog that you guys might find interesting.
    Please keep us posted! I'd love to read it.
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    What are the views that you guys have on fractional reserve and full reserve banking?
 
 
 
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