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    (Original post by Bonged.)
    Watch this:

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...2772364661561#

    Truly sickening. The taliban are vile, racist, mysogynistic, homophobic monsters.
    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/d...s-50/episode-1

    watch this, then.
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    (Original post by Iron Mike)
    I don't contest the Taliban are barbaric and I am against them, however they are still Afghans. That is fact that you cannot contest. So by your logic it is their country just as much as the rest of the Afghan populace
    I concede. They do want to kill most of the rest of the afghan populace though.
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    (Original post by lubus)
    they're a bunch of idiots, and anyone who supports them must gtfo and join them.
    :confused: You..........want the Taliban to grow?
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    (Original post by Bonged.)
    Would you consider taliban oppressors?

    What does a female muslim (i think you have to be muslim to get to heaven right?) martyr get?
    I'd rather not accuse people of something before being grounded in knowledge, and propaganda doesn't count.


    A female martyr gets jannatul firdaus (highest heaven where the Prophets live) like all other martyrs. Dunno about how many men they get.
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    (Original post by MJlover)
    I'd rather not accuse people of something before being grounded in knowledge, and propaganda doesn't count.


    A female martyr gets jannatul firdaus (highest heave where the Prophets live) like all other martyrs. Dunno about how many men they get.
    http://www.rawa.us/movies/zarmeena.mpg

    Knowledge.

    Jesus, look past the fact they're muslims. They are disgusting.
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    (Original post by MJlover)
    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/d...s-50/episode-1

    watch this, then.
    Why should I watch that? Does it disprove what we know about their oppression of women and genocide of non-pashtuns?
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    (Original post by Logi)
    Not of the human kind? What the heck does that even mean?! Are you refering to other species? And if so is it a specific animal they receive or is it all down to Hooky's preference at the bestiality buffet? :woo:

    I've never heard that take on things before. Is it "official" or just your suggestion? If it's "official" could you provide some quotes?
    As for the hoori [the virgins] who is one of the delights of Paradise, she has only been created in Paradise for the sake of someone else, and has been made the reward for the believing man for his righteous deeds. There is a great difference between one who enters Paradise as a reward for her righteous deeds and the one who was created as a reward for one who did righteous deeds. [Basically they are a creation for the good muslims of paradise, just like the rivers and mansions of paradise are]
    http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/60188/hoor

    my comments are in the red.
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    (Original post by Bonged.)
    Why should I watch that? Does it disprove what we know about their oppression of women and genocide of non-pashtuns?
    Yep, and why should I watch yours?
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    (Original post by Bonged.)
    http://www.rawa.us/movies/zarmeena.mpg

    Knowledge.

    Jesus, look past the fact they're muslims. They are disgusting.
    I hate anyone who doesn't rule accorsing to the Qur'an and the way of the Prophet (pbuh), I don't care about whether they are muslim or not.

    what did you just send me?
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    (Original post by MJlover)
    Yep, and why should I watch yours?
    Mine reveals the atrocities being committed against the afghan people. Yours shows that there is a war in afghanistan.

    That is totally arbitrary to discussing the morality of the taliban.

    http://www.rawa.us/movies/beating.mpg

    Filmed by RAWA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolut...of_Afghanistan

    Who are actually courageous. The taliban are just pigs.
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    (Original post by MJlover)
    I hate anyone who doesn't rule accorsing to the Qur'an and the way of the Prophet (pbuh), I don't care about whether they are muslim or not.

    what did you just send me?
    The taliban executing a woman in front of an audience baying for her blood. Lovely.

    So you hate everyone, basically. Cool.
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    (Original post by MJlover)
    As for the hoori [the virgins] who is one of the delights of Paradise, she has only been created in Paradise for the sake of someone else, and has been made the reward for the believing man for his righteous deeds. There is a great difference between one who enters Paradise as a reward for her righteous deeds and the one who was created as a reward for one who did righteous deeds. [Basically they are a creation for the good muslims of paradise, just like the rivers and mansions of paradise are]
    http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/60188/hoor

    my comments are in the red.
    Right so they're more like blow up dolls than people? No emotion etc just a kind of toy? It just seems really bizarre to me for a religion which is pretty strict about sex when you're alive to suddenly offer 72 objects purely for sexual gratification when you die. If they acknowledge it's a good thing when you're dead why isn't it ok when you're alive?
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    They are cowards.
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    (Original post by Logi)
    Right so they're more like blow up dolls than people? No emotion etc just a kind of toy? It just seems really bizarre to me for a religion which is pretty strict about sex when you're alive to suddenly offer 72 objects purely for sexual gratification when you die. If they acknowledge it's a good thing when you're dead why isn't it ok when you're alive?
    They are companions, also. Its not promiscuity as they are 'married' they don't just have sex with random people.
    http://islamqa.com/en/ref/4994/hoors
    someone asked the question, maybe you should read this link ^
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    (Original post by MJlover)
    They are companions, also. Its not promiscuity as they are 'married' they don't just have sex with random people.
    http://islamqa.com/en/ref/4994/hoors
    someone asked the question, maybe you should read this link ^
    So do you condone the actions of the taliban?
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    No. They're cowards. But so are the americans for using drones which sometimes kill innocent people.
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    Both sides are coward and courageous.
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    (Original post by Iron Mike)
    The Taliban are Afghans, so by that logic it is equally the Taliban's country

    They aren't necessarily Afghans. Plenty are Pakistanis or Uzbek's, and there are many who have come to fight for them from even further afield (Arabian peninsula, Chechnya, Somalia, China, Indonesia and even Western Europe and the USA)

    The loose collection of enemies known as the Taliban are often just as foreign as NATO forces who have simply come to Afghanistan to use it as a battle ground against the 'infidels'.
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    anyone who willingly goes out to war and fights with the posibility of getting killed is courageous, doesn't mean they aren't pieces of **** though.
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    (Original post by Iron Mike)
    Is this a typo or does it really mean 'Two Students'?
    It actually means "The students", as corrected by persephone. Hence the organisation was initially started by students probably for educational purposes
 
 
 
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