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    (Original post by Aj12)
    If your going into medicine just for money I doubt you will make it.
    no its not like that! I'm just wondering what the best options are that are available.
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    (Original post by Aj12)
    If your going into medicine just for money I doubt you will make it.
    no a LOT of people do make it, sadly. but off in the interview gloat about bs experience. i mean like theyll do 2 ******* hours a WEEK for "5 months" and sell it off as theyve done 5 months work experience (which is indirectly not a porkie) when in reality all he will have done is 30 hours. thats why people who do experience like that do not know the hardships of a doctor, you making LIFE CHANGING decisions which may end a person life, or safe them, and the guilt that comes when a decision youve made goes (god forbid) wrong.

    but they realise this stress in the hospital life, thats why they **** off to being a GP. GP will be a god job for him. sitting in a comfy office referring people to the hospital when he doesnt know the condition.
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    (Original post by vBison)
    This ^. My aunt is a gp and she's working part-time and hitting 20k. people honest to god just see their big houses and think they are on 100k.

    a junior doctor is NOT on 20k at all, they are much lower. in fact a junior doctor earns ******* compared to other professions, and youre a consultant's ***** for how long?

    GPs pay is RELATIVE to the community they are in, and the base pay they receive. if youre on the nhs youll recieve a base pay + additional pay worked out on how many in-house tests youve done and patients youve seen/ referrals/ hours etc. some gps get 60K some get 250k. but that 250k are the TOP gps and how many years theyve spent getting that is lightyears.

    The main problem is people, like you, get hooked on the "100k". its been said the "drop-outs" from medicine become gps, because some barely diagnose correctly, and most are just referral agents. then people like you come along looking for easy cash and get it on the day (yes first time gps get WAY more than junior doctors) where juniour doctors still have to WORK upwards and study into their specialisation.

    this makes gp quality care not so good. instead of thinking about pay, which you know youll get, think about the quality of service YOU can provide a human being. because its not just a cheque when your poor advice kills someone, its blood money.

    Really? I don't think so....
    Rest is good though junoir doctors are on more than 20k.....
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    (Original post by vBison)
    no a LOT of people do make it, sadly. but off in the interview gloat about bs experience. i mean like theyll do 2 ******* hours a WEEK for "5 months" and sell it off as theyve done 5 months work experience (which is indirectly not a porkie) when in reality all he will have done is 30 hours. thats why people who do experience like that do not know the hardships of a doctor, you making LIFE CHANGING decisions which may end a person life, or safe them, and the guilt that comes when a decision youve made goes (god forbid) wrong.

    but they realise this stress in the hospital life, thats why they **** off to being a GP. GP will be a god job for him. sitting in a comfy office referring people to the hospital when he doesnt know the condition.
    woh woh mate calm down, I'm not saying I am going to be a GP , all i was asking is what is the average wage!
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    (Original post by vBison)
    no a LOT of people do make it, sadly. but off in the interview gloat about bs experience. i mean like theyll do 2 ******* hours a WEEK for "5 months" and sell it off as theyve done 5 months work experience (which is indirectly not a porkie) when in reality all he will have done is 30 hours. thats why people who do experience like that do not know the hardships of a doctor, you making LIFE CHANGING decisions which may end a person life, or safe them, and the guilt that comes when a decision youve made goes (god forbid) wrong.

    but they realise this stress in the hospital life, thats why they **** off to being a GP. GP will be a god job for him. sitting in a comfy office referring people to the hospital when he doesnt know the condition.
    Please stop insulting GPs.
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    :facepalm2: This thread.

    GPs aren't the dossers of medicine either, the GP I did work exp. was a dedicated doctor. Perhaps some people just prefer a generalist and community role? :idea:
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    (Original post by crazylemon)
    Really? I don't think so....
    Rest is good though junoir doctors are on more than 20k.....
    why not? because GPs have told me thats how it works, so unless youre a gp..

    lets make it simple. a gp in the middle of NOWHERE in wales seeing 2 patients a month is going to make less than a gp in central london seeing 100 patients a day.
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    (Original post by Organ)
    :facepalm2: This thread.

    GPs aren't the dossers of medicine either, the GP I did work exp. was a dedicated doctor. Perhaps some people just prefer a generalist and community role? :idea:
    no, of course some of them are doctors. but most are referral agents.
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    (Original post by crazylemon)
    Please stop insulting GPs.
    thats not insulting a gp. thats giving a comparison of want some gps do vs hospital doctors.
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    100K after a few years experience.
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    (Original post by vBison)
    thats not insulting a gp. thats giving a comparison of want some gps do vs hospital doctors.
    Saying they are referral agents is insulting.
    I could say Hospital doctors get scared when a condition outside their speciality comes up.


    (Original post by vBison)
    why not? because GPs have told me thats how it works, so unless youre a gp..

    lets make it simple. a gp in the middle of NOWHERE in wales seeing 2 patients a month is going to make less than a gp in central london seeing 100 patients a day.
    That is Number of patients not wealth of surrounding area. Also rural GPs tend to earn more on average than urban (exclude london) because they can dispense whereas most urban ones cannot.
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    General Practice is a specialty by the way.
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    (Original post by Carpediemxx)
    £53,781 to £81,158

    the lay person's conception of doctor pay is exaggerated considerably
    I'd say that's about right. 100K is a bit higher than they recieve. It does actually depend where they work though and how long they work.
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    (Original post by sreddy17)
    Hi guys, I was wondering if any of you know what the average salary for a general practitioner at the current time, and compared to other jobs is this better than most, thank you!
    Read this! http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/details...lt.aspx?Id=553
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    I am a working NHS GP.

    Salaried docs, working full-time (that is 9 sessions a week) will expect to earn about £80,000 a year. That is GP's who have fully qualified. A partner may earn a lot more - some earn £150k-£200k - but this is only if there is considerable extra income opportunity (dispensing practice, large building with commercial tenants, large list size largely served by many salaried doctors and nurse practitioners, etc). Typically a Salaried GP has the advantage of not having to "buy in" to the practice, and has no management workload. A GP partner will usually have a significant investment (in the building etc) of tens to hundreds of thousands of pounds (think of it like a mortgage), which makes it hard to leave so GP's tend to stay in post for decades if they are partners.

    General Practice is an amazingly rewarding aspect to medicine; you get a long-term relationship with your patients, you are (if a partner) largely your own boss and can make changes to improve your work environment, you are free to innovate and invest in your practice, and can choose to work solo or in a team. GP's are the continuity agents that bring together the overspecialized input of nose docs, heart docs, nerve docs - who increasingly only see patients in terms of their relevant organ systems, rather than with any holistic approach. As a GP you can develop special interests in a range of disciplines to add flavour to your practice, and can change these as your career develops.

    it is not just a matter of "referring patients to the hospital when he doesnt know the condition"! ;^)

    I hope this adds to the discussion and sheds some light on GP remuneration for those interested.
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    (Original post by vBison)
    This ^. My aunt is a gp and she's working part-time and hitting 20k. people honest to god just see their big houses and think they are on 100k.

    a junior doctor is NOT on 20k at all, they are much lower. in fact a junior doctor earns ******* compared to other professions, and youre a consultant's ***** for how long?.
    Not true. I'm a junior doctor. I've never been on such little money. In fact I think starting salary unbanded for an F1 is 24000 but most get enhancements. I personally had 40% enhancement in my first year


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