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Just a simple question here; If I only have Maths A-level and not further mathematics, but want to do chemistry at oxbridge, is further maths vital for chemistry as it is for physics and so do I stand a chance of getting in without Further Maths?

Many thanks for any responses...
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I have a friend who recieved an offer from Trinity, Oxford to read Chemistry who only has GCSE maths. But he is sitting AS maths this June. He applied to trinity because they were the least bothered by his lack of maths.
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Ahh that's good.
I'm intending to get an A in A-Level maths.... hopefully this shan't disadvantage me too much
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Are you going to apply for Oxford or Cambridge?
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It depends. One factor is whether you are able to do further maths at your school/college.

Another point to consider is what maths A-level you do - be it pure, or a mixture involving mechanics, statistics or (heaven forbid!) decision.

Oxford require chemistry and maths at A-level. Further maths helps, the pure maths in particular.

Cambridge - it depends whether you want to go down the physical or biological route. Further maths would definitely help with the former, but this may be at the expense of doing a biology based A-level, which would in turn constrain you to the physical route.

I hold an offer for chemistry at Oxford. I do the pure maths A-level. As long as you get the A grade, you shouldn't have to worry much.


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(Original post by Buzfvar)
Hi!
Just a simple question here; If I only have Maths A-level and not further mathematics, but want to do chemistry at oxbridge, is further maths vital for chemistry as it is for physics and so do I stand a chance of getting in without Further Maths?

Many thanks for any responses...
u dont even need maths for chemistry.

not having further maths is absolutely fine, u wouldnt even need maths really.

u dont need Further Maths 4 physics.
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u dont need Further Maths 4 physics.
You really would be a bit of a twit not too though, non?
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You really would be a bit of a twit not too though, non?
i dont do it at the mo, doing an AS in it next year
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i dont do it at the mo, doing an AS in it next year
Yes but if you were going to apply for Physics at Oxford without Further Maths, I think they'd wonder why.
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u dont even need maths for chemistry.

not having further maths is absolutely fine, u wouldnt even need maths really.

u dont need Further Maths 4 physics.
Hmmm I also have to disagree with this one. Oxford and Cambridge seem to disagree too...

Oxford entry requirements

Cambridge entry requirements

Please don't make rash statements without evidence.


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Yes but if you were going to apply for Physics at Oxford without Further Maths, I think they'd wonder why.

In some schools it's just not available due to lack of interest, timetable constraints etc. I want to do physics, so I'm currently in negotistions with my school to do AS Further maths next year. I know a girl who got an offer from Oxford this year for Physics without Further.
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Hmmm I also have to disagree with this one. Oxford and Cambridge seem to disagree too...

Oxford entry requirements

Cambridge entry requirements

Please don't make rash statements without evidence.


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So I should be fine applying for Physical NatSci with Maths, Physics, Chemistry and English Lit, as I have met 1st requirement "3 science and/or maths at GCE A level"?
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In some schools it's just not available due to lack of interest, timetable constraints etc. I want to do physics, so I'm currently in negotistions with my school to do AS Further maths next year. I know a girl who got an offer from Oxford this year for Physics without Further.
Yes, of course if you don't get the opportunity to do further then you'll be on a level playing field, I think Oxbridge will look down on anybody who had the opportunity though.
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So I should be fine applying for Physical NatSci with Maths, Physics, Chemistry and English Lit, as I have met 1st requirement "3 science and/or maths at GCE A level"?
Yes, I would say that your A-levels are adequate.

One question that might pop up is why you don't do further maths. If you couldn't do this at your school, then this is taken into account. However, if you are able to do it, then either say you wanted to a contrasting arts subject or just lie and say your timetable can't accomodate it! (I'd recommend the former.)

As long as you're on track for A grades and competent enough in maths (especially pure and maybe mechanics) then don't worry.


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