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Reply 1
The LLB/JD Columbia course is a dual course between Columbia Law School and some of the University of London Colleges. You will find that the LSE as well as King's offer this option as well as UCL; to my knowledge, QM and SOAS do not although there is an LLM/JD exchange with SOAS. You might find that the King's route is thus more suited to your needs.

One thing to consider is the cost: study at a US law school is not cheap, being around $56,000 a year (all-inclusive), this is not a financial obligation to be entered into lightly and few undergraduates will have the necessary resources- as spelled out by the University of London colleges when they initially launched the programme. I am unaware if a source of sponsorship has now been obtained for this dual programme.
Reply 2
PDJM

One thing to consider is the cost: study at a US law school is not cheap, being around $56,000 a year (all-inclusive),

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Could probably obtain some funding from the UCL law department, and in the USA there are plenty of scholarships open to the brightest students....

To get accepted onto that programme you'd need to be one of the brightest anyway so you'd have a good shot at a scholarship.
Reply 4
You'd have some problems applying for a scholarship as such, since you only take two years at London you would have to apply for a scholarship and be interviewed at the start of your second year. Unfortunately academic brilliance on its own is insufficient and with only one year at University it will be most difficult to build up the necessary extracurricular activities at a sufficiently high level of responsibility that are required for such awards. It must be remembered that such awards stress leadership and future opinion forming potential.

A large number of people with high academic potential are admitted to the most elite of the US Ivy league law schools but then decline their places on financial grounds.

I’d be interested to know if UCL had acquired funding for this project, at the start it apparently had not.
Reply 5
There is indeed much funding in the US for further study, Onearmedbandit I now realise where you are coming from on this. It is indeed normal to do a 5 year PhD on a fully funded basis- however law school is rarely so funded since it is considered vocational rather than academic, and an investment.
I have not read the whole post, but I agree it is a lot of money in the US. We have a visiting Professor from America, and have a dual LLM programme with Washington DC.

It is considered very cheap at about £11000 for the year. Actually I should ask for PDJM's help with my brief on the Airline Deregulation Act 1978. I am taking American Public Law :smile: Congress has competence to regulate commerce, unless it chooses not to Cooley v. Board of Wardens. Just thought I would use this post to show I have heard some American stuff.
King's do state that there exist possibilities for funding from Columbia, however, recommends that full funding is ascertained nevertheless. There is no mention whatsoever of any help King's can provide, and I suspect its the same for UCL.
Reply 8
"Possibilities for funding". They are probably referring to what is known at US law schools as financial aid. English students, (coming from a developed country) who apply for this at the top institutions do not fare too well as it is not on merit but on need. US law schools expect you to borrow large sums of money to attend. Considering the average British student loan (ie debt) is low compared to the debt many US students are in and considering the ineligibility for Federal aid and the high cost of British housing (this along with parental income is considered) means that you are unlikely to get a substantial amount. If however you are prepared to go to a third tier law school you may get considerable merit aid- but this is mainly for JDs, those wishing to do LLMs tend to get much less.

Having compared people's financial aid offers at one particular Ivy league institution you are on average going to get around $10,000.

“Actually I should ask for PDJM's help with my brief on the Airline Deregulation Act 1978”

LauraWalker, you’ll probably find this is out of my limited area of expertise, (if any expertise exists in the first place)! Feel free to PM about it though, but I fear that it will be you who will be helping/teaching me about this!
Never mind PDJM, just thought I was 'in' there knowing an American. Actually, whilst not to be arrogant, I have a reasonable amount of expertise already in this matter. I am at Hull again due to illness last year. I did this course last year and got a pleasing mark in it; hence second time round I should 'pretty well up' on it all. :redface:
Reply 10
Unfortunately (perhaps even fortunately) I have often been described as "quite English" and am an English Common Lawyer by training. My next door neighbour is however from Iowa, but she's only starting her law degree in two years time- so cannot be of much help here! I only know about US graduate education as I have researched and applied for various things, and a large proportion of the new graduate students at my College are from the US.

You are allowed to sit the same course twice?
Reply 11
Law with American Law the University of East Anglia. reguires AAA , good course tho
I'm at university in the US now - it is hard to get funding for your freshman year, but once you are in the university they'll do alot to help you stay in the university... even if that means giving you more aid.
Reply 13
Yeah-the uni of Notre Dame told me that there is very little funding offered and it is only to pay a small portion of your tuition fee.
I don't see much point in the whole LLB/JD course-I thought it sounded good at first but when I looked into it, it said you would have to choose certain options to ensure you had all the core modules needed for a law degree in both countries. For me, personally, I want to get as much out of a law degree as possible so have chosen unis which offer loads of options!
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