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Original post by TimmonaPortella
Nah, it's just when it's entirely irrational and thrown around as the 'offence' card. It 'kettles my swede', to turn Shaun Ryder's phrase.
I don't get what you're getting at with the first comment. People are generally - note the use of the word, generally - devout followers over there, and to cover oneself and eat halal meat is part of the religion. Being a slut and not wearing clothes is not part of Christianity. And yes, the places are sandy. You, and the above poster, are drawing huge insults to entire peoples out of limited factual comments.


I'm not going to get drawn into this argument, as fascinating as it is, but I'm pretty sure it isn't that common for Muslim women to cover themselves. Ok it is common but I don't think the majority do and it's certainly not part of the religion. Only certain types of Muslims do? Sort of like Catholics and Protestants have different interpretations, Muslims also do. But yeah my vaguely useful input of the day in there :wink:
Original post by Schnecke
You're a twin!? Identical :awesome:? Sorry I've always thought it'd be really cool to have an identical twin but in reality it's probably not that great. We see each other fairly often, two of my sibs are down in London, but the rest are close to home and we still all go on family holidays XD. Having a few in the US would be worth it if I could go over and visit though :biggrin:.

Yeah it's just very hypocritical coming from my mother who did an degree in english and my dad who chose his based on what he thought would be the least work rather than any career :rolleyes:.


And seeing as everyone's doing the political compasses:

Economic Left/Right: -6.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69



Yes! We're not identical... We don't look like each other in anyway at all (Poor girl :frown:). Yeah... I've always wanted her to be a boy.. She would have been called Michael... The doctor actually thought that she was a boy, so that was a disappointment!!! But there wasn't a mix up in the hospital either... We were the only white babies in a Taiwanese hospital! Family holidays? I love family holidays! I went on a HUGE one with my uncle this summer! He paid £20,000 for 10 of us to go on a cruise... BEST HOLIDAY EVER!!! But not my siblings! I can't visit because I'm under 21 and they refuse to take responsibly for me... :frown: Wait until they try to visit me in the UK :P

My father has a friggin' PhD for Oxford, and is in business?! What a waste! So you really can do anything with any degree! SO what does your dad do now?

Where did you get that political compass thing? I want to do it!
My Political Compass

What does it even mean!? We don't really study politics in Ireland!
Original post by Schnecke
M4 :afraid:. I'm doing FP3 as an extra so may chicken out of M3 :wink:.
That'd be my preferred combination as well. I'm going to open days later on and might suddenly fall in love with Warwick but I doubt it, the campus set-up really doesn't appeal. Woop I love Imperial, though the all-sciences is a bit scary (I don't do any science :colondollar:, I'll feel like an impostor), but lots of fun geeky people :biggrin:.


And seeing as everyone's doing the political compasses:

Economic Left/Right: -6.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69



I think FP3 is probably the best unit (at least it's my favourite - completely abstract pure maths FTW :tongue:) M3 is quite good, it's worth giving it a try, but it is a lot to learn for one unit, not to mention the insane amounts of calculus in all the questions :rolleyes:

I think Warwick is too far from anywhere decent to make it worthwhile, though I got really keen when they gave me my first offer and I'm now signed up for one of their open days (at least it's a day off school :tongue:) which one are you going to? But yes Imperial, probably the only place in the country where it's weird not be a geek :biggrin: both my parents went to Imperial, so I'd like to go one better and get into Cambridge :tongue: Sciences are over-rated anyway, physics is basically maths, chemistry just applied physics, biology just a study of applications of chemistry... (I apologise in advance before any Natsci applicants take any offence, without scientists, us mathematicians wouldn't have anyone to make use of our equations :tongue:)



Just because I don't want to feel left out:

Economic Left/Right: -8.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.41



Commited left-winger/libertarian all the way :borat:
Seven days.
Original post by shannon14
My Political Compass

What does it even mean!? We don't really study politics in Ireland!


This means your views on economics probably fall to the left of centre, in the region of socialism, probably not as far as communism. Communism is about having a controlled economy where commodities should be distributed 'from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs' Socialism is, very crudely put, a less extreme version of this, but still has the interests of equality for the individual at it's heart.

Your social rating suggests that you are near to centre, so you don't fall to the authoritarian, fascist side, where state control is very rigid, but instead slightly towards the opposite, libertarianism, where there is virtually no control (anarchy) You fall slightly toward this side, but in general would believe that some state control on the individual is good, but only in careful moderation.

Hope that helps you understand a bit better (though I may be wrong...)
Original post by Jing_jing
:ninja: I feel out of place now politically

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I got pretty much the same :tongue:
This thread is now ours...
(#-~@ the lefties)
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Original post by jonnyboy1993
This means your views on economics probably fall to the left of centre, in the region of socialism, probably not as far as communism. Communism is about having a controlled economy where commodities should be distributed 'from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs' Socialism is, very crudely put, a less extreme version of this, but still has the interests of equality for the individual at it's heart.

Your social rating suggests that you are near to centre, so you don't fall to the authoritarian, fascist side, where state control is very rigid, but instead slightly towards the opposite, libertarianism, where there is virtually no control (anarchy) You fall slightly toward this side, but in general would believe that some state control on the individual is good, but only in careful moderation.

Hope that helps you understand a bit better (though I may be wrong...)


Wow! Thanks! At least in England ye know what the different parties are... I have to vote in the next month and have NO IDEA what to do... I think that I will just avoid those who are in the current government... But people like my grandmother (whose father fought for Fianna Fáil in the Civil war) will only vote Fianna Fáil... Even if they are two completely different parties and stand for completely different things!
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Original post by shannon14
Wow! Thanks! At least in England ye know what the different parties are... I have to vote in the next month and have NO IDEA what to do... I think that I will just avoid those who are in the current government... But people like my grandmother (whose father fought for Fianna Fial in the Civil war) will only vote Fianna Fial... Even if they are two completely different parties and stand for completely different things!


Fianna Fáil, :wink:

Also with a political scene largely divided on Civil War lines ideology doesn't really come into it, which is something more and more people are realising. I reckon Labour's votes are going to soar this election. Your political rating implies you should be giving them a look, anyway.
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Original post by shannon14
Wow! Thanks! At least in England ye know what the different parties are... I have to vote in the next month and have NO IDEA what to do... I think that I will just avoid those who are in the current government... But people like my grandmother (whose father fought for Fianna Fial in the Civil war) will only vote Fianna Fial... Even if they are two completely different parties and stand for completely different things!


No problem. I don't know if that is generally the case. I follow politics, but a lot of people don't. Only 2/3 of the country turned up to vote last general election, and I'm sure some of those will have cast their vote without thinking very carefully about their options. The election system in this country is a bit of a joke, but ah well, the conservatives won't want to change it anytime soon... At least you're thinking about what you're doing with your vote, not everyone cares that much about democracy *sigh* We can basically vote for either one of 3 'big' parties, all of whom are very much central in their views, or extremist parties such as the BNP or SWP (though saying this I've forgotten the green party, just like everyone does anyway :tongue:) The problem is there are no parties with strong, but not extreme views and so it all seems to make little difference who you vote for, you'll never get what you wanted anyway (just look at the Lib 'hypocrite' Dems...)
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Original post by no chance
Fianna Fáil, :wink:

Also with a political scene largely divided on Civil War lines ideology doesn't really come into it, which is something more and more people are realising. I reckon Labour's votes are going to soar this election. Your political rating implies you should be giving them a look, anyway.


Fianna Fáil... I can't even spell it :eek:

Labour are too small a party to win it outright, and I don't think that there are any Labour TDs in my constituency... How much do you know about the Irish government?
Original post by jonnyboy1993
We can basically vote for either one of 3 'big' parties, all of whom are very much central in their views, or extremist parties such as the BNP or SWP (though saying this I've forgotten the green party, just like everyone does anyway :tongue:) The problem is there are no parties with strong, but not extreme views and so it all seems to make little difference who you vote for, you'll never get what you wanted anyway (just look at the Lib 'hypocrite' Dems...)


Don't forget UKIP. Nigel Farage is my hero.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY
Original post by neesh123
Don't forget UKIP. Nigel Farage is my hero.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY


I'm sorry, complete omission on my part :colondollar: Nothing like UKIP to help lower even further (if it's even possible :tongue:) the opinion of the UK in international politics...
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Original post by neesh123
Don't forget UKIP. Nigel Farage is my hero.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY


Yeah nothing like saying he's speaking for the country when he's not, and just ad hominem attacking someone and their nationality to earn that hero status.
Original post by shannon14
Fianna Fáil... I can't even spell it :eek:

Labour are too small a party to win it outright, and I don't think that there are any Labour TDs in my constituency... How much do you know about the Irish government?


I know a good bit, I posted before I'm from Kildare, grew up back and forth between Ireland and England. Anyway, Labour could get a good chunk of Fianna Fáil's votes because FF are going to be decimated, literally, at this election. Eamon Gilmore is predicting about 50, and even if they get less than that, while of course they're not going to get into office, refusing to form a coalition with Fine Gael means they'll be the main party in opposition and from there it's really quite possible they'll have a strong platform the election after.
Original post by comrade_jon
Yeah nothing like saying he's speaking for the country when he's not, and just ad hominem attacking someone and their nationality to earn that hero status.


Quite. Though I don't think the European Council is being run even successfully, Nigel Farage is a venomous, impolite and diplomatically illiterate knob.
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Original post by comrade_jon
Yeah nothing like saying he's speaking for the country when he's not, and just ad hominem attacking someone and their nationality to earn that hero status.


Actually he is *technically* correct, he can easily say with confidence that most of the British public have no idea who that guy is. Most of the British public couldn't even tell you where Belgium is, let alone who the prime minister is :smile:
Original post by comrade_jon
Yeah nothing like saying he's speaking for the country when he's not, and just ad hominem attacking someone and their nationality to earn that hero status.


He speaks for a large part of the country as shown in the recent(ish) EU elections.

The ad hominem is really very relevant. I mean, do we really want someone like Herman von Rompuy representing us on the world stage? He doesn't look very presidential and there is no way he would've been voted president.
Original post by jonnyboy1993
I think FP3 is probably the best unit (at least it's my favourite - completely abstract pure maths FTW :tongue:) M3 is quite good, it's worth giving it a try, but it is a lot to learn for one unit, not to mention the insane amounts of calculus in all the questions :rolleyes:

I think Warwick is too far from anywhere decent to make it worthwhile, though I got really keen when they gave me my first offer and I'm now signed up for one of their open days (at least it's a day off school :tongue:) which one are you going to? But yes Imperial, probably the only place in the country where it's weird not be a geek :biggrin: both my parents went to Imperial, so I'd like to go one better and get into Cambridge :tongue: Sciences are over-rated anyway, physics is basically maths, chemistry just applied physics, biology just a study of applications of chemistry... (I apologise in advance before any Natsci applicants take any offence, without scientists, us mathematicians wouldn't have anyone to make use of our equations :tongue:)



Just because I don't want to feel left out:

Economic Left/Right: -8.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.41



Commited left-winger/libertarian all the way :borat:


Yay I love the abstract stuff :biggrin:. I'll try it, just because I can look super-intelligent for going all the way to M3 :tongue:

I'm going to Imperial on the 18th of Jan and Warwick on the 2nd of Feb. My parents both went to York, having been rejected from Cambridge, beating them would be satisfying. My dad still talks about his interview :rolleyes:.

Ahh this sums that argument up pretty well :wink:.

Loving all the left-wingers there are on here XD
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Original post by neesh123
He doesn't look very presidential and there is no way he would've been voted president.


To say what Plato once said: "Leaders voted for by the public will never be the right leaders". This is not to say that dictators are any better, but I don't think a good president needs to look or behave presidentially. Quite the opposite; I would welcome a president who doesn't always emphasize himself but rather his abilities, work and country. Yet, these people hardly ever rise up to a high position as they are not just trying to become powerful. Sadly, van Rompuy was simply installed to be a quiet headfigure, who does't do anything, thus giving power to Merkel and Sarkozy.
However, I think that the stereotype of a President is a bad one, since looking presidentially doesn't correlate with acual presidenial capabilities.
I also did the political spectrum test and got -0.5 and -0.7, thus I'm relatively balanced and believe that these tabloid elections (always based on some kind of personal scandal or whatever) are a bad way to choose a good and responsible president/chancellor or alike.
Reply 3799
I am mortified.
My Aunt just popped in, and said she had a gift for me.
She has bought me a college scarf...
I said "This is beautiful. Thank you! But... uhh... you do realise, there's a 99.9% chance I shan't get in?"

She said "Yes, well, if you get accepted you may wear it freely, and if it's a rejection, you can still have it around to remind you of the experience."

LOL at the latter suggestion. Something tells me I won't be having it strung across my wardrobe whilst at another university to 'remind me of those precious few days with Cammie.'
It was a lovely gesture, but it's brought this silly letter to the forefront of my mind once more. :tongue:

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