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Students for Tuition Fee Reform launch letter campaign to Liberal Democrat MPs. Watch

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    We, as Students in favour of the Coalition’s new proposals for funding Higher Education have today launched a letter campaign to all Liberal Democrat MP’s urging them to support the Governments proposals as a fairer alternative to the situation inherited from the previous Labour administration. The letter in full is below.

    Dear Liberal Democrat MPs,


    We, the undersigned students, recognise the benefits of tuition fee reform and urge you to vote for it.We see that our annual loan repayments will fall due to the substantial rise in the loan repayment threshold, and that the grants system will become more generous. We see that part-time students will no longer be forced to pay up-front fees and that poorer graduates will benefit from a rise in the repayment threshold.

    We feel that the NUS, by spreading the myth that the reforms will dissuade poorer students, has done far more to reduce social mobility in relation to higher education than anyone else to date. We recognise the fact that the poorest graduates will be better off under the reforms both in overall terms and in terms of their annual repayments. We hope that the myths will be dispelled so that poorer students may be encouraged. In particular, we see that extending the graduate income-based repayment scheme to part-time students will make it easier for the poorest, banishing the daunting prospect of up-front fees.

    We recognise that changes to funding will allow funds to follow students, enabling them to vote with their feet and make universities accountable to them alone rather than to faceless bureaucrats in Whitehall. We see that the funding lost through central cuts will be replaced by the money from higher fees, still borne by the government up-front.

    We recognise that the coalition’s reforms are far superior to any graduate tax proposed by the opposition. We note with interest however, the hypocrisy of the NUS by proposing a time-limited graduate tax almost identical to the government’s proposals. We recognise the deficiencies of this graduate tax that, unlike the coalition’s proposals, allows no link of accountability of universities to their students. After a lamentable start to the way these reforms were presented, we urge you to continue to stress the benefits of reform and attack the widespread fear-mongering by the NUS and other groups. We urge you, however, not to favour some national groups above others. It would be unfair to English students if Welsh students were to benefit from the generosity of the reform of the graduate repayment system whilst not being charged the raised headline fee.

    In short, we have bothered to read the Browne report and the coalition government’s proposals, unlike our protesting peers. In fact, we find it shockingly absurd that students should protest a more generous deal. We applaud the measures that the coalition government has proposed and once again urge all Liberal Democrat MPs to vote for them.

    Know that some students stand with you in taking this decision.
    If you wish to show your support for the campaign then please join the Facebook group here. If we’re going to persuade wavering MP’s of the benefits of reform then we need every student we can to stand up for a better education system.
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    Silly.

    We all know lib-dems can't read!
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    interesting, although to justify going against your flagship policies to mainly left wing student voters is quite funny.
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    Liberal Democrat MPs have started to respond, if anyone here is interested.
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      do remind them that they are upping the payment barrier by 40% but upping fees by 273%
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      Not really sure what the students protesting really expect. The choice is this or a Grad Tax. As that is what Labour are goingto propose
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      Campaign being picked up by a few places:

      http://www.libdemvoice.org/opinion-a...mps-22281.html

      http://www.adamsmith.org/blog/educat...ral-democrats/

      http://www.tfa.net/the_freedom_assoc...ve-got-it.html

      http://www.nextleft.org/2010/12/one-...till-love.html
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      Ignoring the rights or wrongs about this, there is no way on this earth that you can actually argue that increased fees will not deter poorer students. I think its blatantly obvious that it will. Again, rightly or wrongly some poorer people will see the £50,000 figure and just say "sod it".

      Also, its not upto parliament if Welsh students pay the higher fees or not. The WAG has already decided that we won't. So to include that in a letter to lib dem MP's is just stupid.
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      (Original post by WelshBluebird)
      Ignoring the rights or wrongs about this, there is no way on this earth that you can actually argue that increased fees will not deter poorer students. I think its blatantly obvious that it will. Again, rightly or wrongly some poorer people will see the £50,000 figure and just say "sod it".
      Yeah, but the point is, it shouldn't deter them. If the proposals are a good idea which will result in the lowest earners paying back less than they currently would, why is the fact that some people will misconstrue the policy and think that they'll be paying more a valid reason not to go ahead with it?
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        (Original post by Azimuth)
        Yeah, but the point is, it shouldn't deter them. If the proposals are a good idea which will result in the lowest earners paying back less than they currently would, why is the fact that some people will misconstrue the policy and think that they'll be paying more a valid reason not to go ahead with it?
        50 odd grand debt would certainly put me off, - the point is if people havent noticed is that Cameron, Clegg, Cable paid NOTHING for their education. Now how is that fair?

        Why has the watchdog said it opposes this system because it benefits the rich the most?

        Can I ask what the problem with FAIR fees is?
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        (Original post by Matthew_Lowson)

        Can I ask what the problem with FAIR fees is?
        I don't know. What is wrong with the proposals from the Coalition?
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          (Original post by PoliceStory)
          I don't know. What is wrong with the proposals from the Coalition?
          The basic, - Government Greed. With the insistence from the LDs that they didnt win the election - which makes me wonder why the **** are they ruling the country if they keep insisting they didnt win. Cameron has every mandate to put this sort of thing forward - afterall he is the leader of the Largest party. Government is not about lying at every opportunity to exploit others. That is why there is more anger at Clegg - I'll maintain the view from the start, Cameron has at least been honest.

          What is wrong with FAIR fees? - What justifies Greed?


          The Coalition keep reminding us that the payment threshold is rising by 40%. That has been noticed, but its no good when the fees are going up 273%

          Come on, Justify the changes?
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          (Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
          What is wrong with FAIR fees?
          The governments proposals are fair. The letter explains most fallacies but there should be an article going up next week that goes into more detail.
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            (Original post by PoliceStory)
            The governments proposals are fair. The letter explains most fallacies but there should be an article going up next week that goes into more detail.
            Paying 30 for degrees is not FAIR - especially when the people pushing it got it for £0. - explain why its FAIR?
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            (Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
            Paying 30 for degrees is not FAIR - especially when the people pushing it got it for £0. - explain why its FAIR?
            There is a bigger picture than just the single student here. That bigger picture is called more number of people going into university thanks to another government. We can all say "well let us cut that then", but in practical terms it is impossible to do over a short term(what unis do you cut? what courses? what do you suddenly replace them with?). This way, you gradually start weeding out people who are at university for wrong reasons(seriously, if you are put off by a debt you are either not going to have to pay off completely or if you do, it will be a minor drop from the benefits you are getting, you shouldn't be at university) until the system becomes sustainable again. We can all complain about Cameron and co got it better, but we do not live in a fairy tale world where it is possible to fix mistakes with the flourish of a wand, so it is imperative to stop complaining and do the best we realistically can to fix the current predicament.
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            (Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
            Paying 30 for degrees is not FAIR - especially when the people pushing it got it for £0. - explain why its FAIR?
            Someone always pays, in the case of people going to university before fees were introduced it was completely funded by the taypayer. This redistributed money from the poorest people in society to the very few that went to university and therefore attained a much higher salary.
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            (Original post by PoliceStory)
            We, as Students in favour of the Coalition’s new proposals for funding Higher Education have today launched a letter campaign to all Liberal Democrat MP’s urging them to support the Governments proposals as a fairer alternative to the situation inherited from the previous Labour administration. The letter in full is below.



            If you wish to show your support for the campaign then please join the Facebook group here. If we’re going to persuade wavering MP’s of the benefits of reform then we need every student we can to stand up for a better education system.
            Done

            NUS - too busy having orgies in Labour's pockets than to care for students.
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            lol not a lot of people in that Facebook group compared to the ones against it.

            And Stephen Williams agreeing? Well that's the last time I vote for him:dry:
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              (Original post by PoliceStory)
              Someone always pays, in the case of people going to university before fees were introduced it was completely funded by the taypayer. This redistributed money from the poorest people in society to the very few that went to university and therefore attained a much higher salary.
              Which is the whole reason why I agree with tuition fees in the first place.
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                (Original post by The Cornerstone)
                lol not a lot of people in that Facebook group compared to the ones against it.

                And Stephen Williams agreeing? Well that's the last time I vote for him:dry:
                And have a look at what he said to the Students outside his surgery
               
               
               
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