Do you think there's anything wrong with letting a 9 year old boy play COD?
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It depends. COD isn't for everybody. What is his kill/death rate?
^This! But seriously it isn't really the gore and that that's bad. If he goes online and hears people constantly swearing and arguing etc and he plays a lot he's bound to be influenced a lot by it. So don't be surprised if you get a call from a teacher about his bad mouth, if you let him play it.
Madjackismad
The amount of people so astonishingly sheltered on this forum is apparent. They are clearly lacking the benefit of this new medium of interactive social media.
I played my first GTA game age 8 (GTA 1). It it didn't incite me to rob a car and run over a load of unsentient entities (If it did I'd be arbitrarily pre-disposed to pyschosis anyway). I've played pretty much every worthwhile game inbetween on most platforms. As it stands at age 19 I am a full time care worker for the elderly with ambitions to join the police.
So go figure, those who can not distinguish reality from fiction should not impede the right of those willing to dream and potentially be inspired.
Gaming is as much an art, the most powerful medium for social commentary, a valid and obvious faucet for entertainment and quite frankly the future of story telling.
Well, perhaps you should be with him while he plays.Tbh violent games won't make him mow down old ladys with an smg but the real problem is if it takes over his life.Oh please don't give him a mike I had to verbally abuse 10yr old American because they never shut up "Dewd we pwnd u guys in tha revo-LUT-ONARY WAR" Me"Vietnam cough cough 100s of gunships vs rice farmers.....cough FRIENDLY FIRE.....
I respect patriotic Americans and their war heros but I hate when 10 year olds try to slag you off and you win then you have to deal with farmer Eli there dad"You boii dun entered a whole world of hurt.hurting ma boys feelins I will hunt you down boy 10 years US army rangers *mutters*accountancy department. I fired mah .0001 calibre staple in Vietnam git some.
I respect patriotic Americans and their war heros but I hate when 10 year olds try to slag you off and you win then you have to deal with farmer Eli there dad"You boii dun entered a whole world of hurt.hurting ma boys feelins I will hunt you down boy 10 years US army rangers *mutters*accountancy department. I fired mah .0001 calibre staple in Vietnam git some.
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The danger is not the violence, it's the addiction. If you get hooked on screens at an early age, it damages your brain's development (true story, I read a number of articles on the issue). Since CoD is so addictive, I say let him play but make sure it doesn't grow into a habit. He won't become violent but he might become a pasty faced little zombie if you're not careful.
Nah, you might as well set them off early.
Probably not it's an 18 for a reason. Also if your 9 you should be out playing 
I think its ok as long as they stick to single player. In multiplayer kids are extremely annoying to play with. The worst i have seen is a 7 year old playing L4D2 multiplayer on the PC, and laughing in an extremely annoying voice as he ripped a guys chest to peices in a spray of blood as a zombie. Its got an age restriction for a reason.
Original post by Webernets
The amount of people so astonishingly sheltered on this forum is apparent. They are clearly lacking the benefit of this new medium of interactive social media.
I played my first GTA game age 8 (GTA 1). It it didn't incite me to rob a car and run over a load of unsentient entities (If it did I'd be arbitrarily pre-disposed to pyschosis anyway). I've played pretty much every worthwhile game inbetween on most platforms. As it stands at age 19 I am a full time care worker for the elderly with ambitions to join the police.
So go figure, those who can not distinguish reality from fiction should not impede the right of those willing to dream and potentially be inspired.
Gaming is as much an art, the most powerful medium for social commentary, a valid and obvious faucet for entertainment and quite frankly the future of story telling.
I played my first GTA game age 8 (GTA 1). It it didn't incite me to rob a car and run over a load of unsentient entities (If it did I'd be arbitrarily pre-disposed to pyschosis anyway). I've played pretty much every worthwhile game inbetween on most platforms. As it stands at age 19 I am a full time care worker for the elderly with ambitions to join the police.
So go figure, those who can not distinguish reality from fiction should not impede the right of those willing to dream and potentially be inspired.
Gaming is as much an art, the most powerful medium for social commentary, a valid and obvious faucet for entertainment and quite frankly the future of story telling.
There's also a couple of things I haven't said. Firstly, I have an older brother who was allowed to play games such as GTA, not to mention that I had friends who had GTA 3 and Vice City, so I wasn't completely cut off from them.
Secondly, grow up and stop going around, criticising people of having led a sheltered life and that their parents were bad because they didn't let them play a game that could allow you to run over, maim and kill people. Also, you know nothing about me. I agree with you, gaming is an art and I am an avid fan of video games, and even if I didn't play the games such as GTA, which let's face it, were the most violent games around at the time (along with Manhunt), I was still allowed to play Doom, Quake, Counter Strike and Half-Life.Secondly, if you had 9 year old children and you walked in on them playing a scene such as this:
And also this:
Both of which have extreme scenes of violence. Seriously, would you let your 9 old watch someone brutally cave in a head?
Your argument is elitist and pretentious.
Plus, video-games are the future of story-telling? Are you being serious? Because most games these days can't even bloody tell a story, they just tack on a campaign with the multiplayer taking up most of the space. Yes, they are a few games (Heavy Rain, Mass Effect, Fallout etc), but please - video-games are not the future of story-telling.
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Original post by Madjackismad
There's also a couple of things I haven't said. Firstly, I have an older brother who was allowed to play games such as GTA, not to mention that I had friends who had GTA 3 and Vice City, so I wasn't completely cut off from them. Secondly, grow up and stop going around, criticising people of having led a sheltered life and that their parents were bad because they didn't let them play a game that could allow you to run over, maim and kill people. Also, you know nothing about me. I agree with you, gaming is an art and I am an avid fan of video games, and even if I didn't play the games such as GTA, which let's face it, were the most violent games around at the time (along with Manhunt), I was still allowed to play Doom, Quake, Counter Strike.
Secondly, if you had 9 year old children and you walked in on them playing a scene such as this:
And also this:
Both of which have extreme scenes of violence. Seriously, would you let your 9 old watch someone brutally cave in a head?
Your argument is elitist and pretentious.
Plus, video-games are the future of story-telling? Are you being serious? Because most games these days can't even bloody tell a story, they just tack on a campaign with the multiplayer taking up most of the space. Yes, they are a few games (Heavy Rain, Mass Effect, Fallout etc), but please - video-games are not the future of story-telling.
There's also a couple of things I haven't said. Firstly, I have an older brother who was allowed to play games such as GTA, not to mention that I had friends who had GTA 3 and Vice City, so I wasn't completely cut off from them.
Secondly, grow up and stop going around, criticising people of having led a sheltered life and that their parents were bad because they didn't let them play a game that could allow you to run over, maim and kill people. Also, you know nothing about me. I agree with you, gaming is an art and I am an avid fan of video games, and even if I didn't play the games such as GTA, which let's face it, were the most violent games around at the time (along with Manhunt), I was still allowed to play Doom, Quake, Counter Strike.Secondly, if you had 9 year old children and you walked in on them playing a scene such as this:
And also this:
Both of which have extreme scenes of violence. Seriously, would you let your 9 old watch someone brutally cave in a head?
Your argument is elitist and pretentious.
Plus, video-games are the future of story-telling? Are you being serious? Because most games these days can't even bloody tell a story, they just tack on a campaign with the multiplayer taking up most of the space. Yes, they are a few games (Heavy Rain, Mass Effect, Fallout etc), but please - video-games are not the future of story-telling.
Yes I would allow a 9 year old, my own, witness such.
One, because it is CLEARLY fiction. Two, because it can actually happen. Three because a 9 year old braught up by me would have more than two short planks to cross a ravine as opposed to a lump of gold and a spare sock.
Finally because it's quite plainly a objective, obeservable facility my child would benefit from early, rational exposure to. The world is not padded and it is not a cell. It's nasty, it's full of scum and it's overall hostile. A nine year old child would not benefit from the full picture, but the OBVIOUS preview Computer games can bring. We are a bag of "gore" and we all die. We are all fallible, and we all have the potential to be truely evil. We are not privelaged in our position in the universe, we are intrinsically capable of asking the question for the very effect.
The great's in gaming history have more value and relevance than the chime arbitrary to the national curriculum.
Your ineptitude is citeworthy too, of those you called, only Heavy Rain would count. The rest worthy of such a title are much, much older - and the future of story telling gaming is.
And don't Piccard Facepalm me, you sound like a 7.
Original post by Webernets
Yes I would allow a 9 year old, my own, witness such.
One, because it is CLEARLY fiction. Two, because it can actually happen. Three because a 9 year old braught up by me would have more than two short planks to cross a ravine as opposed to a lump of gold and a spare sock.
Thirdly because it's quite plainly an objective, obeservable facility my child would benefit from early, rational exposure to. The world is not padded and it is not a cell. It's nasty, it's full of scum and it's overall hostile. A nine year old child would not benefit from the full picture, but the OBVIOUS preview Computer games can bring.
And don't Piccard Facepalm me, you sound like a 7.
One, because it is CLEARLY fiction. Two, because it can actually happen. Three because a 9 year old braught up by me would have more than two short planks to cross a ravine as opposed to a lump of gold and a spare sock.
Thirdly because it's quite plainly an objective, obeservable facility my child would benefit from early, rational exposure to. The world is not padded and it is not a cell. It's nasty, it's full of scum and it's overall hostile. A nine year old child would not benefit from the full picture, but the OBVIOUS preview Computer games can bring.
And don't Piccard Facepalm me, you sound like a 7.
Well, obviously it's fiction. Yet, letting a 9 year old watch something like that could disturb them and frighten them. Of course it can happen, anything could happen. Your 9 year old child could easily run out into the road when playing outside and gets hit by a bus. It still doesn't mean that they should be watching torture scenes which involves a barbaric killing - which, guess what, is why COD has gained the 18 certificate. Shocker, isn't it? The world isn't padded, you'd have to be pea-brained to think it's a rather nice place to live in.
Ah, your fine example on how to be a parent. You know, as they gradually age (I mean, 11/12 is only just starting high school), they become more aware of what's going on in the world around them, hence why it becomes more acceptable to allow them to play more violent games, as long as they know it is fiction.
And your final statement. A nine year old is going to benefit from seeing a brutal torture scene, because maybe he'll appear in the same situation. I'm sure it's a nice preview to what will sudden pop up on the streets before them when they hit the age of 11 or 12 - which is somebody suddenly popping up to cave in another persons head.
Would you care to cite any other games worthy of such a title? In my opinion, those games are worthy of the title. Your obviously sticking to the older games such as Deus Ex and Half Life (both of which I've played) because you believe that they hold deeply important messages that will educate the whole nation and train them to use a crowbar in the unfortunate event should aliens invade.
Plus, I can facepalm.
There.(edited 13 years ago)
Original post by Madjackismad
Well, obviously it's fiction. Yet, letting a 9 year old watch something like that could disturb them and frighten them. Of course it can happen, anything could happen. Your 9 year old child could easily run out into the road when playing outside and gets hit by a bus. It still doesn't mean that they should be watching torture scenes which involves a barbaric killing - which, guess what, is why COD has gained the 18 certificate. Shocker, isn't it? The world isn't padded, you'd have to be pea-brained to think it's a rather nice place to live in.
Ah, your fine example on how to be a parent. You know, as they gradually age (I mean, 11/12 is only just starting high school), they become more aware of what's going on in the world around them, hence why it becomes more acceptable to allow them to play more violent games, as long as they know it is fiction.
And your final statement. A nine year old is going to benefit from seeing a brutal torture scene, because maybe he'll appear in the same situation. I'm sure it's a nice preview to what will sudden pop up on the streets before them when they hit the age of 11 or 12 - which is somebody suddenly popping up to cave in another persons head.
Ah, your fine example on how to be a parent. You know, as they gradually age (I mean, 11/12 is only just starting high school), they become more aware of what's going on in the world around them, hence why it becomes more acceptable to allow them to play more violent games, as long as they know it is fiction.
And your final statement. A nine year old is going to benefit from seeing a brutal torture scene, because maybe he'll appear in the same situation. I'm sure it's a nice preview to what will sudden pop up on the streets before them when they hit the age of 11 or 12 - which is somebody suddenly popping up to cave in another persons head.
Your call is riddled with emotive bull. It's no shocker COD was handed an 18, because we live in a society built on bubble wrap . COD is no more graphic than road runner and cyote with his acme boobytraps.
But ours is a society built on and owed to 15-17 year olds who died for this country during the First and Second World Wars.
We were not made by the pseudo-liberal kid's you all are. Britain is a society that was once part of a can-do as opposed to a not-allowed culture. Pussy's, International punchbags and ex-bully victims that's what you are students of today and that's the legacy and epithet you contribute to. You riot over expenses and university fees, you haven't a clue. You are a liability and a clot in the creative genious this country has to offer the world.
Original post by Webernets
Your call is riddled with emotive bull. It's no shocker COD was handed an 18, because we live in a society filled with bubble weap and health and safety. COD is no more graphic than road runner and cyote with his acme boobytraps.
But ours is a society built on and owed to 15-17 year olds who died for this country during the First and Second World Wars. Not the pseudo-liberal kid's you are. Ours is a society that was once part of a can-do as opposed to a not-allowed culture. Pussy's. International punchbags. That's the legacy and epithet you contribute to.
But ours is a society built on and owed to 15-17 year olds who died for this country during the First and Second World Wars. Not the pseudo-liberal kid's you are. Ours is a society that was once part of a can-do as opposed to a not-allowed culture. Pussy's. International punchbags. That's the legacy and epithet you contribute to.
And your posts are riddled with pretentious pap. Oh god, you're one of those people who moan about the nanny state. Please, get a grip. Also, LOL, COD is not any more graphic than Road Runner? Let me do a small side by side comparison of the both. Y'know, to make it easier for you:
I think you'll find real differences.
Yes, our society is built completely on those who died in the wars. Completely discount politics why don't you? Plus, do you really think that when they come back from war after all they've seen, that they would be lauding about how glorious it is? In my opinion - and I'm veering away from video-games for a moment - I'm so glad authors such as Wilfred Owen survived, otherwise we'd still have idiots like you running about. Trust me, I'm not the pseudo Liberal you think I am. In fact, wasn't the basic ideas for discussion behind this thread about parenting? So, if I want to stop my child from seeing overly violent and sexual scenes at the early age of nine years old, that suddenly constitutes me as a Liberal pussy in your eyes? I'm sure you're a real charming fellow to be around.
Also, I completely disagree with the riots. You sound bullish. Plus you've spelt genius wrong. At least spell it right before you call me a liability.
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Original post by Madjackismad
And your posts are riddled with pretentious pap. Oh god, you're one of those people who moan about the nanny state. Please, get a grip. Also, LOL, COD is not any more graphic than Road Runner? Let me do a small side by side comparison of the both. Y'know, to make it easier for you:
I think you'll find real differences.
Yes, our society is built completely on those who died in the wars. Completely discount politics why don't you? Plus, do you really think that when they come back from war after all they've seen, that they would be lauding about how glorious it is? In my opinion - and I'm veering away from video-games for a moment - I'm so glad authors such as Wilfred Owen survived, otherwise we'd still have idiots like you running about. Trust me, I'm not the pseudo Liberal you think I am. In fact, wasn't the basic ideas for discussion behind this thread about parenting? So, if I want to stop my child from seeing overly violent and sexual scenes at the early age of nine years old, that suddenly constitutes me as a Liberal pussy in your eyes? I'm sure you're a real charming fellow to be around.
Also, I completely disagree with the riots. You sound bullish. Plus you've spelt genius wrong. At least spell it right before you call me a liability.
I think you'll find real differences.
Yes, our society is built completely on those who died in the wars. Completely discount politics why don't you? Plus, do you really think that when they come back from war after all they've seen, that they would be lauding about how glorious it is? In my opinion - and I'm veering away from video-games for a moment - I'm so glad authors such as Wilfred Owen survived, otherwise we'd still have idiots like you running about. Trust me, I'm not the pseudo Liberal you think I am. In fact, wasn't the basic ideas for discussion behind this thread about parenting? So, if I want to stop my child from seeing overly violent and sexual scenes at the early age of nine years old, that suddenly constitutes me as a Liberal pussy in your eyes? I'm sure you're a real charming fellow to be around.
Also, I completely disagree with the riots. You sound bullish. Plus you've spelt genius wrong. At least spell it right before you call me a liability.
As a bisexual, working class, socialist male - I can keenly say I do not read the daily fail.
But most of the youth of today, are quite objectively scum who have no clue and we could probably do with a cull because quite a few are beyond repair, and breeding. We are becoming a very malignant society, and soon we will be unviable in sustaining the values we hold so dear as a civilised society through democracy.
Original post by Webernets
As a bisexual, socialist male - I can keenly say I do not read the daily fail.
But most of the youth of today, are quite objectively scum who have no clue.
But most of the youth of today, are quite objectively scum who have no clue.
I don't give a **** if you read the Daily Mail or not, in fact, I never even said you did. A lot more papers moan about the nanny state than the Daily Mail do.
How can you be in a position to judge "most of the youth of today"? And how can you say they have no clue? You seem to be specifically attacking those who were involved in the riots over tuition fees. You're only 19 years old, I'm going to say this once more and then end this pointless argument - get a grip.
Original post by F i s
But seriously something which is violent and has age certification should be taken into account before letting a little one play a game.
But seriously something which is violent and has age certification should be taken into account before letting a little one play a game.
I guess parents make their children stuck to videogames in order to keep him/her silent
. Games even not being real, are realistic wich is worse.Original post by zxh800
Depends how mature he is, if he's mature i can't see why not. When i was 10 i was roaming the interwebz and people mistook me for beign 15. Then again, not everyone's like me 
Absolutely not.
They probably won't turn out to be crazed killers, but it makes the idea of violence much more normal and we have to look out for that. I don't really know what CoD is, but it sounds a little like that game where the user gets rewarded for beating up prostitutes? Don't know the name of it, but that one shocked me...
Also it gives kids the idea that violence is the way to solve things. Perfect recipe for a peaceful world later on...
There was a boy in my school who missed school from time to time to play stuff like that all day. He was racist and violent.
Personally, if I ever have kids, right now I wouldn't let them have a games console in the house. It's indulgent, a waste of time and you could be doing lots of other things.
They probably won't turn out to be crazed killers, but it makes the idea of violence much more normal and we have to look out for that. I don't really know what CoD is, but it sounds a little like that game where the user gets rewarded for beating up prostitutes? Don't know the name of it, but that one shocked me...
Also it gives kids the idea that violence is the way to solve things. Perfect recipe for a peaceful world later on...
There was a boy in my school who missed school from time to time to play stuff like that all day. He was racist and violent.
Personally, if I ever have kids, right now I wouldn't let them have a games console in the house. It's indulgent, a waste of time and you could be doing lots of other things.
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I wouldn't let my child at 9 play an 18 game no. Definitely not.
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