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Nationwide protests against tax avoiders - 4 Dec 2010 watch

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    According to http://www.ukuncut.org.uk/actions there will be at least 22 "actions"

    This thread is for the discussion of both the actions that happen on the day, and the issues that underpin those actions.

    Some of you will be aware that I've jumped up and down about the issue of tax evasion - which is a criminal offence. (If there was a crime wave of up to £40bn per year hitting say British businesses through other forms of fraud, politicians and the papers would be up in arms...)

    Also, note that protestors are using the term "tax avoider" is being used rather than "tax evader" when commenting on specific cases so as to avoid slander and libel.

    So you know where I stand on the principle of cracking down on tax avoidance and tax evasion, what about all of you?

    Comments on the protests will follow as things unfurl. As on other threads, I'm fine with peaceful direct action. What I don't like is violence - at all - by anyone.
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    Tax avoidance is nothing wrong. It is the legal right of every Englishman to reduce his tax bill as possible.
    I wouldn't voluntarily ever hand money over to the tax man unnecessarily.

    Tax evasion is an issue. Though I blame this more on the way tax is collected. It should however be stopped.
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    If you want to go stand outside a shop with a placard when it's going to be -3c in most cities then that's your choice. Tax evasion is a sticky issue, sure, but this isn't going to change a thing.
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    Tax avoidance is completely acceptable and legal.

    Tax evasion is illegal (though it seems perfectly acceptable to me).
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    (Original post by Aspiringlawstudent)
    Tax avoidance is completely acceptable and legal.

    Tax evasion is illegal (though it seems perfectly acceptable to me).

    Danny Alexander(Chief sec to the treasury) doesn't agree with you
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    "There are some people who seem to believe that not paying their fair share of tax is a lifestyle choice that is socially acceptable," he said.

    "Just like the benefit cheat, they take resources from those who need them most. Tax avoidance and evasion are unacceptable in the best of times but in today's circumstances it is morally indefensible.
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    (Original post by Duncan Idaho)
    Danny Alexander(Chief sec to the treasury) doesn't agree with you
    Most people don't agree with him.

    His party came third.

    He didn't even get the job straight away.
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    just because you're rich doesn't mean you have the right to dodge tax
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    (Original post by Duncan Idaho)
    just because you're rich doesn't mean you have the right to dodge tax
    So people shouldn't avoid tax?

    Surely the first step would be to stop the tax reclaim process.
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    (Original post by Duncan Idaho)
    "There are some people who seem to believe that not paying their fair share of tax is a lifestyle choice that is socially acceptable," he said.

    "Just like the benefit cheat, they take resources from those who need them most. Tax avoidance and evasion are unacceptable in the best of times but in today's circumstances it is morally indefensible.
    Avoiding tax is not "taking resources". It is simply refusing to give your hard earned money to the lazy and feckless underclass.
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    (Original post by Quady)
    So people shouldn't avoid tax?

    Surely the first step would be to stop the tax reclaim process.

    no they shouldn't
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    (Original post by Duncan Idaho)
    just because you're rich doesn't mean you have the right to dodge tax

    pay up or fcuk off
    After that wouldn't step two be to remove the tax credits system?
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    (Original post by Duncan Idaho)
    no they shouldn't
    Why?

    Thats people and companies avoiding tax
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    have you lost your moral compass quady.

    It is morally indefensible to dodge tax
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    (Original post by Duncan Idaho)
    just because you're rich doesn't mean you have the right to dodge tax
    Wouldn't step three be to stop businesses offsetting their output VAT by their input VAT?
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    (Original post by Duncan Idaho)
    have you lost your moral compass quady.

    It is morally indefensible to dodge tax
    No, I'm giving a set of simple things that can be stopped that lose the Treasury a vast amount of tax due to tax avoidance.

    Isn't that the point?
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    Step 1 would be to stop the government sanctioned tax breaks that big business already get, as part of the corporate welfare dependency culture.
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    (Original post by Duncan Idaho)
    just because you're rich doesn't mean you have the right to dodge tax
    Step four, removal of pension tax relief.
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    (Original post by Duncan Idaho)
    Step 1 would be to stop the government sanctioned tax breaks that big business already get, as part of the corporate welfare dependency culture.
    So you are surely for that one right?
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    (Original post by Duncan Idaho)
    just because you're rich doesn't mean you have the right to dodge tax
    Step 5, remove the non-rated, 0% and 5% VAT rated goods/services.
 
 
 
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