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I've been looking over on the TES forums and keep reading about people failing their placements; I would know if I was, right? It seems a stupid question, but how do you know if you're failing? What constitutes failing a placement?

Its been really tough this last couple of weeks; its been knackering. I can feel my progression though, which is good. And I'm losing weight- although I was skinny to begin with ha ha!
Original post by StarBabyCat
I've been looking over on the TES forums and keep reading about people failing their placements; I would know if I was, right? It seems a stupid question, but how do you know if you're failing? What constitutes failing a placement?

Its been really tough this last couple of weeks; its been knackering. I can feel my progression though, which is good. And I'm losing weight- although I was skinny to begin with ha ha!


I should think they would be putting all manner of strategies into place to help you before failing you so don't worry, you're not just going to get booted out one day!


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Original post by noodles!
I'm an MFL teacher in secondary so could probably pitch in with ideas to help you with teaching.

Getting them to listen is hard work- I currently have a very sore throat! Do you always wait for silence before you speak? It can feel like a lifetime waiting but it's SO worth it.

What sort of work/activities do you give the children?


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That would be amazing if you were able to help. I feel yor pain on the sore throat front. All of my colleagues have been I'll this week and it seems it's now my turn. There are three of us teaching full time plus one part time and the secretary.

I try to wait for silence all the time but it feels like a lifetime. Sometime I hardly get anything done. I give the students group work, pair work, videos from you tube and songs with gap fills. They enjoy the videos and songs but pair and group work is tricky- some end up talking in Spanish or the class as a whole gets very loud.

Pitching activities at the right level is tricky especially with older but low ability students or unmotivated ones.
Original post by sunfowers01
That would be amazing if you were able to help. I feel yor pain on the sore throat front. All of my colleagues have been I'll this week and it seems it's now my turn. There are three of us teaching full time plus one part time and the secretary.

I try to wait for silence all the time but it feels like a lifetime. Sometime I hardly get anything done. I give the students group work, pair work, videos from you tube and songs with gap fills. They enjoy the videos and songs but pair and group work is tricky- some end up talking in Spanish or the class as a whole gets very loud.

Pitching activities at the right level is tricky especially with older but low ability students or unmotivated ones.


Message me with the next topic/work you want to do and I'll see if I can help at all :smile:


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Original post by StarBabyCat
I've been looking over on the TES forums and keep reading about people failing their placements; I would know if I was, right? It seems a stupid question, but how do you know if you're failing? What constitutes failing a placement?

Its been really tough this last couple of weeks; its been knackering. I can feel my progression though, which is good. And I'm losing weight- although I was skinny to begin with ha ha!


They should let you know if there are any major concerns. Our university tutors told us that they would come in to do additional observations if our school co-tutors reported having 'cause for concern' but that this shouldn't come as a surprise - we'd already be aware if things were that bad.

Sometimes I just ask my co-tutor if things are going OK, to be honest. Feedback is always mixed, with things that went well and things that need to be improved, and if I feel the balance is a bit on the negative side one week I'll just say to her "do you think things are going OK?" and so far she's said yes, and that she isn't worried.

Unless there are problems with your co-tutor, I'd say ask them.
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Original post by myrtille
They should let you know if there are any major concerns. Our university tutors told us that they would come in to do additional observations if our school co-tutors reported having 'cause for concern' but that this shouldn't come as a surprise - we'd already be aware if things were that bad.

Sometimes I just ask my co-tutor if things are going OK, to be honest. Feedback is always mixed, with things that went well and things that need to be improved, and if I feel the balance is a bit on the negative side one week I'll just say to her "do you think things are going OK?" and so far she's said yes, and that she isn't worried.

Unless there are problems with your co-tutor, I'd say ask them.



At my uni if you are predicted a grade 3 or 4 at the end of the placement then they start to offer additional support or start observing more.
My whiplash is subsiding somewhat, I just have a rather stiff neck now. Planned around 7 lessons on my time off for the week ahead and I'm continuing my first learning assignment. I guess if I'm having the time off I might as well do some work that will contribute positively to the course. M I Rite? Upto 3700 words out of 6000. Beautiful!
Original post by robo donkey
My whiplash is subsiding somewhat, I just have a rather stiff neck now. Planned around 7 lessons on my time off for the week ahead and I'm continuing my first learning assignment. I guess if I'm having the time off I might as well do some work that will contribute positively to the course. M I Rite? Upto 3700 words out of 6000. Beautiful!


Glad to hear you're feeling better, don't work too hard.


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Taking somewhat regular breaks. My neck always get worse from like 5-6 in the evening it feels like, possibly due to tiredness and being up all day I guess. Getting there though.
O my gosh, some of you are really in the warzone! I'm so sorry to hear about your accident robo-donkey, but I'm glad you're on the mend! And at least you've had productive time off :smile: It really well look so good that you made the effort to go in though after the accident; I can't imagine that many people would!! And I'm sorry you're unwell again Sarang :frown: I have been constantly trying to fend off bugs since starting my PGCE, after going through my undergrad with basicaly never getting unwell! It's crazy! My last week was horrific. I had my mid-point review on the Monday and woke up and my voice was super hoarse and I could feel the illness coming on! By Tuesday as I was really not well and Wednesday was horrific, but I battled through the week!

I'm enjoying the PGCE and I loved my school experience. I adore my school, but it's certainly a LOT of hard work!! I did 4 weeks of teaching and am now back at University untilthe Christmas holidays, after which I will be at my school again for 5 weeks of teaching, which will go up to 3 days teaching per week! I am feeling rather anxious about being able to fit in planning for 4 more lessons :/ I feel like I am slow and am not really picking up my pace...I'm going to have to though!

I;m not a big fan of the master's element of the course...It takes up my time when I feel I could be doing more productive things, like planning for next term and making resources and maybe fitting in some rest time!!
Taking today off, neck is killing me, possibly over did it or something. I'm so sad :frown:

I love the school I'm on placement at and I'm getting the hang of teaching then bam, whiplash. So unfair.
Thank you Angel_night. Just been to see the specialist again. Ive got two more weeks of bed rest and they're starting me on dapsone (the drug they use for leprosy :s) as long as my blood tests show my kidneys are ok. It means I have to miss this last week of school and a week of uni but then at least we have 3 weeks off so I'm not missing any more.

Apparently I've got an autoimmune disease called Henoch Schonein Purpura which affects my blood vessels. Can't believe all this is because of tonsillitis. Blimmin kiddy germs!!!

Hope others are having better luck and enjoying Christmas in schools! Xxx


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Original post by Kidders
HUGE step up from undergrad degree!! (i think the MA students are a little better prepared)

Rant over. :colondollar:


LOL.

I'm doing an MA actually, it's less formal work than the MSc I did in the past, but I spend a lot of time reading around the subject.

Anyway LOL again. Work is hard unless you are fortunate to have a cushy job (some do exist). I worked in the oilfield for over 10 years and that was 12 hours a day for up to 60 days, and once I did 72 hours with no sleep working continuously.
Original post by robo donkey
Taking today off, neck is killing me, possibly over did it or something. I'm so sad :frown:

I love the school I'm on placement at and I'm getting the hang of teaching then bam, whiplash. So unfair.


Good luck with that. I hurt my neck in a jeep going over sand dunes in the Libyan desert and it took about a year to feel normal again. Necks take ages to heal because they are hard to rest.
Man I felt bad today, tried constantly to tell a girl to be quiet calmly and everything as you should. In the end I just flat out told her to shut up. Felt bad about it. It worked though and the teacher said don't worry about it. Hate that I had to do it though.
Original post by robo donkey
Man I felt bad today, tried constantly to tell a girl to be quiet calmly and everything as you should. In the end I just flat out told her to shut up. Felt bad about it. It worked though and the teacher said don't worry about it. Hate that I had to do it though.


I've resorted to that loads. Seems that some kids need it!


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Really struggling at the moment. Mentor is only offering criticism, forgetting the 'constructive' part, giving no support or guidance, just emailing me last thing on a Sunday to tell me my first thing on a Monday lesson is basically wrong. She's hardly even been there in over a month due to courses.
Uni couldn't care less, just make me feel like I'm being unreasonable.
My partner did his PGCE last year and is constantly telling me it's not acceptable and that I need to complain. But to who? Noone cares.
All I can do is hope my next placement is at least no worse.

Despite not having a lesson obs higher than a requires improvement, I know that with support I could be good.
But right now I'm not sure i want to. Just doesn't feel worth the fight.
Original post by nati_jade
Really struggling at the moment. Mentor is only offering criticism, forgetting the 'constructive' part, giving no support or guidance, just emailing me last thing on a Sunday to tell me my first thing on a Monday lesson is basically wrong. She's hardly even been there in over a month due to courses.
Uni couldn't care less, just make me feel like I'm being unreasonable.
My partner did his PGCE last year and is constantly telling me it's not acceptable and that I need to complain. But to who? Noone cares.
All I can do is hope my next placement is at least no worse.

Despite not having a lesson obs higher than a requires improvement, I know that with support I could be good.
But right now I'm not sure i want to. Just doesn't feel worth the fight.


Can't offer any advice, because I am in the exact same position as you. ( though I have no idea where my lessons rank on the 'ofsted' scale thing)

All I can say is, you're not alone. I'm planning on powering through until Xmas, having some well needed sleep, and then catch my breath in time to reflect on things.

I've found that if you are in a 'nice' school, i.e pupils fairly well behaved etc then Uni's attitude tends to be that you should put up and shut-up, as you can't possibly be having problems if they aren't directly pupil related!
Original post by smartarse1983
Can't offer any advice, because I am in the exact same position as you. ( though I have no idea where my lessons rank on the 'ofsted' scale thing)

All I can say is, you're not alone. I'm planning on powering through until Xmas, having some well needed sleep, and then catch my breath in time to reflect on things.

I've found that if you are in a 'nice' school, i.e pupils fairly well behaved etc then Uni's attitude tends to be that you should put up and shut-up, as you can't possibly be having problems if they aren't directly pupil related!


Glad I'm not alone. Yeah I'm the same. And then after Christmas only 5 more weeks until I'm done in that school. But then there's the worry of whether my next school will be even worse, because if it is no better I don't know if I'll get through it, especially since I know I'll have no support from uni.

Putting in some applications for graduate schemes over Christmas. I enjoy teaching and know I CAN do it, but not sure I want to after this year. There's just too much absolute cr*p involved, and especially in primary, too much being seen to act like a martyr at the right time and in front of the right people. It just seems to be getting worse and worse.
Original post by nati_jade
Glad I'm not alone. Yeah I'm the same. And then after Christmas only 5 more weeks until I'm done in that school. But then there's the worry of whether my next school will be even worse, because if it is no better I don't know if I'll get through it, especially since I know I'll have no support from uni.

Putting in some applications for graduate schemes over Christmas. I enjoy teaching and know I CAN do it, but not sure I want to after this year. There's just too much absolute cr*p involved, and especially in primary, too much being seen to act like a martyr at the right time and in front of the right people. It just seems to be getting worse and worse.


Keep going and just be proactive with your own development, I had an awful last placement and was there for 12 weeks, it was horrible. But you know, I am so proud of myself for getting through it! You will come out the other end of this and remember it isn't for life. This is placement and it will be over soon!

Just remember that you will be progressing! Keep going and don't give up! I would definitely tell your university about your awful time...perhaps mention it to the placement team/tutor/school mentor about how low you are and they may be able to put you in a well known supportive school.

Don't knock off primary teaching on one bad school, they aren't all like that I promise :smile: x

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