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    ...Hi guys,

    I'm a Sheffield Hallam fresher and I've currently in my 4 months of my first year and I'm studying Interior Design.

    Even before I started uni, I had doubts in my mind as to whether it was the right choice for me and throughout my four months I've still had doubt.

    I've decided Interior Design just isn't what I want to pursue as a career and I find a lot of the tasks daunting and just not right for me.

    I've consulted my boyfriend, friends and mother and they all wish for me to just be happy but my mum says she's disappointed. I don't know... why waste thousands of pounds on a course you don't enjoy? I want a future career I will thoroughly enjoy throughout my life.

    I'd say I'm averagely intelligent and have always thought I'm more of the creative sort which lead my onto Interior Design.

    I've always loved the thought of being a beautician... the whole nails, waxing, tanning, make-up etc. has always appealed to me but since it's quite an 'air-headed' job I've not gone for it in fear of what people say. I'd love to own my own salon and I'm such a people pleaser and would love to look after people in this way.

    I just don't know what to do. I know leaving uni is a massive step. I'm 95% sure I want to leave and pursue it no longer. I just know it will be so much hassle.

    I won't be able to pursue a diploma in Beauty Therapy until September 2011 but I have a full-time job working for my Mum already lined up 'til then to pay off students overdrafts, debts etc. I just believe it's my passion in life and everyone I know knows I'd be suited for this industry.

    I was just wondering what you think I should do?

    I care too much about the opinions of others sometimes...

    I'd be moving back home to Leeds so the whole moving out of halls and stuff seems daunting.

    To be honest, I did kind of go to university JUST to experience the student lifestyle... the course kinda came second. Turns out, it's not ALL that. I have the same level of social life as I did back home, I have made friends but it' just not as glamourous as I thought it would be! Rather stupid starting a degree mainly to experience this I know but now it's out of my system I guess.

    Also, does anyone know the process of quitting uni?

    Also, do I have to pay back grants if I quit?

    Cheers for reading, I look forward to your opinions, views and advice.
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    Though this might sound terribly pompous and elitist, but I think you should leave also because the university itself is not very well regarded. I know the course enjoyment is of primary concern, but, if you are not enjoying it, then there is not even the university's reputation to stay for (in the hope of procuring a good job at the end, regardless). If you are truly unhappy with the course and do not see any gain by staying there, then leave and reassess. You can always apply again next year, or apply quickly now.
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    (Original post by INTJ)
    Though this might sound terribly pompous and elitist, but I think you should leave also because the university itself is not very well regarded. I know the course enjoyment is of primary concern, but, if you are not enjoying it, then there is not even the university's reputation to stay for (in the hope of procuring a good job at the end, regardless). If you are truly unhappy with the course and do not see any gain by staying there, then leave and reassess. You can always apply again next year, or apply quickly now.
    Good university prestige =/= easy route to jobs.
    Talk to some university lecturers or people at different universites with relevant positions. Read BBC articles. Most graduate employers dont care about university prestige as much as you think. Experience + hobbies + degree classification + general attitude play a bigger part.
    Just sayiiin
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    (Original post by Tommyjw)
    Good university prestige =/= easy route to jobs.
    Talk to some university lecturers or people at different universites with relevant positions. Read BBC articles. Most graduate employers dont care about university prestige as much as you think. Experience + hobbies + degree classification + general attitude play a bigger part.
    Just sayiiin
    I agree prestige is not everything; I have always argued with others about it, in fact. However, it remains that a frighteningly high number of top jobs are snatched by Oxbridge, UCL, Imperial and LSE...regardless of the degree they have. I remember seeing statistics for it. I have also spoken to employers and lecturers, and they all agree that, often, the university you attend can play a greater role when finding a job than the degree itself. Unless you are doing something specialised, like medicine, prestige will play a definitive role at times.

    However, I do agree that experience, your character, degree score and - to an extent - luck will play a pivotal role, also.
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    (Original post by INTJ)
    I agree prestige is not everything; I have always argued with others about it, in fact. However, it remains that a frighteningly high number of top jobs are snatched by Oxbridge, UCL, Imperial and LSE...regardless of the degree they have. I remember seeing statistics for it. I have also spoken to employers and lecturers, and they all agree that, often, the university you attend can play a greater role when finding a job than the degree itself. Unless you are doing something specialised, like medicine, prestige will play a definitive role at times.

    However, I do agree that experience, your character, degree score and - to an extent - luck will play a pivotal role, also.
    We must also remember that people are these universities will in general have better applications anyway. By that a i mean, purely from there life and the actual universities, oxford students, as an example, well have more experience, a better attitude and probably better hobbies etc. So it is hard to tell whether it is really the degree reputation that gives such high rewards or if its just the students themselves if you get me.

    Ofcourse, there are going to be employers who care more than others,definitely, just gives me more competition cuz im at a low uni . Which is why i have loads of hobbies and awesome CV ;D
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    It's quite obvious you know what you want so I say go for it! Traditional uni isn't for everyone, but you can always go back one day if you want to. You might as well give it a try if you aren't happy with where you are right now. Best of luck
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    (Original post by INTJ)
    I agree prestige is not everything; I have always argued with others about it, in fact. However, it remains that a frighteningly high number of top jobs are snatched by Oxbridge, UCL, Imperial and LSE...regardless of the degree they have. I remember seeing statistics for it. I have also spoken to employers and lecturers, and they all agree that, often, the university you attend can play a greater role when finding a job than the degree itself. Unless you are doing something specialised, like medicine, prestige will play a definitive role at times.

    However, I do agree that experience, your character, degree score and - to an extent - luck will play a pivotal role, also.
    But the majority of people don't want a top job. Of all the people I've met doing law, only those on TSR want to work for Magic Circle firms - most are more than happy to become a high street solicitor. The only people I know interested in IB are on TSR.

    You get a lot of ambitious people on TSR, which makes sense, they've voluntary joined a site based around education ... but you have to remember that most people out there would be happy with a low-profile job.
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    (Original post by Tommyjw)
    We must also remember that people are these universities will in general have better applications anyway. By that a i mean, purely from there life and the actual universities, oxford students, as an example, well have more experience, a better attitude and probably better hobbies etc. So it is hard to tell whether it is really the degree reputation that gives such high rewards or if its just the students themselves if you get me.

    Ofcourse, there are going to be employers who care more than others,definitely, just gives me more competition cuz im at a low uni . Which is why i have loads of hobbies and awesome CV ;D
    I agree. For instance, I have super intelligent friends at Exeter who were studying Law, but are currently unemployed; whereas I know people at UCL who have done completely unrelated courses, but managed to get into the best Law firms by other routes, purely because of the university they went to. It's unfair, really.

    But yeah, a stellar CV, gamut of respectable hobbies, an exuberant personality and a good score on your degree will always stand you in good stead! What wins? A lazy student from Harvard, who has no experience, or the best student from Brunel, who has work experience and a great CV/reference The latter, I think.
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      OP - I would advice speaking to your tutor about the process of dropping out, if that is what you intend to do. I don't think you hav to return Government grants.
      (Original post by INTJ)
      I agree prestige is not everything; I have always argued with others about it, in fact. However, it remains that a frighteningly high number of top jobs are snatched by Oxbridge, UCL, Imperial and LSE...regardless of the degree they have. I remember seeing statistics for it. I have also spoken to employers and lecturers, and they all agree that, often, the university you attend can play a greater role when finding a job than the degree itself. Unless you are doing something specialised, like medicine, prestige will play a definitive role at times.

      However, I do agree that experience, your character, degree score and - to an extent - luck will play a pivotal role, also.
      Your advice is both unhelpful and unrelated to what the OP has been explaining.
      The OP is explaining that she didn't think the course she did was within her interests. What ever University ranks etc you may have in mind simply do no coincide with the questions she is posing to TSR.
      Oxbirdge, Univ Coll london, Imperial and LSE do not do the courses she did - or the courses she was interested in. In fact I'm almost totally sure Russell Group Universities are Academic Research intensive, not vocational like her subject.
      If you are going to tl;dr then at least skim so you can contextualise.
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      (Original post by TheSownRose)
      But the majority of people don't want a top job. Of all the people I've met doing law, only those on TSR want to work for Magic Circle firms - most are more than happy to become a high street solicitor. The only people I know interested in IB are on TSR.

      You get a lot of ambitious people on TSR, which makes sense, they've voluntary joined a site based around education ... but you have to remember that most people out there would be happy with a low-profile job.
      That is true. For most people, prestige isn't a factor if they're not aiming for the very select jobs. Sometimes it is hard to remember that, being surrounded by people who are so academically inclined.
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      OP - I would advice speaking to your tutor about the process of dropping out, if that is what you intend to do. I don't think you hav to return Government grants.
      Your advice is both unhelpful and unrelated to what the OP has been explaining.
      The OP is explaining that she didn't think the course she did was within her interests. What ever University ranks etc you may have in mind simply do no coincide with the questions she is posing to TSR.
      Oxbirdge, Univ Coll london, Imperial and LSE do not do the courses she did - or the courses she was interested in. In fact I'm almost totally sure Russell Group Universities are Academic Research intensive, not vocational like her subject.
      If you are going to tl;dr then at least skim so you can contextualise.
      My comment about the university prestige was unrelated to her course. My point was essentially that, even if you hate your degree, if you're going to, say, Harvard, it is often worth just enduring it because you at least have a Harvard degree. I still gave advice that I feel is pertinent and prudent. If the OP is unhappy, they should leave regardless. I just added that it is an additional incentive to leave if the university itself isn't that great.
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      (Original post by INTJ)
      That is true. For most people, prestige isn't a factor if they're not aiming for the very select jobs. Sometimes it is hard to remember that, being surrounded by people who are so academically inclined.
      It is hard to remember, sometimes. People should be advised that they have to take uni and careers advice from TSR in the context that a lot of people here are like the top sports players, who give advice aimed at making more top players. It's probably accurate and helpful for that sort of game ... but if you just want to have a friendly game over the park with your friends, not so applicable.
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        (Original post by INTJ)
        My comment about the university prestige was unrelated to her course. My point was essentially that, even if you hate your degree, if you're going to, say, Harvard, it is often worth just enduring it because you at least have a Harvard degree. I still gave advice that I feel is pertinent and prudent. If the OP is unhappy, they should leave regardless. I just added that it is an additional incentive to leave if the university itself isn't that great.
        How is it an additional incentive if her course is meant to lead directly into a placement? Interior design isn't like Media you know. Nor are vocational degrees in this manner meant to have statistical prevalence (in ranking) in order to excel in the subject studied. Your point was mis-contextualised and almost arbitrary within this context.
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        (Original post by Stricof)
        How is it an additional incentive if her course is meant to lead directly into a placement? Interior design isn't like Media you know. Nor are vocational degrees in this manner meant to have statistical prevalence (in ranking) in order to excel in the subject studied. Your point was mis-contextualised and almost arbitrary within this context.
        Because the OP was questioning their enthusiasm for the course. My point was that, despite the loss of motivation, IF they had been attending a top university, it might be worth sticking with it simply to receive the degree and make the most of it. I'd agree with you if the OP said they still wanted to do interior design, but they do not.
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          (Original post by INTJ)
          Because the OP was questioning their enthusiasm for the course. My point was that, despite the loss of motivation, IF they had been attending a top university, it might be worth sticking with it simply to receive the degree and make the most of it. I'd agree with you if the OP said they still wanted to do interior design, but they do not.
          AFAIK the OP never directed interest in any Russell Group/ Golden Triangle course. Your point stands to the pits
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          (Original post by Stricof)
          AFAIK the OP never directed interest in any Russell Group/ Golden Triangle course. Your point stands to the pits
          You are making no sense at all. I was not talking about what the OP referenced or alluded to... I was saying that, in SPITE OF WHAT THE OP wants to do, it would have been worth sticking with the course IF they were at a top university. It was purely hypothetical. I also stated that I thought he/she should leave regardless.
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            Hypotheticals? Wow. Just wow. :facepalm2:
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            We only get one life each. Don't spend it slaving away at something you're not passionate about and not going for what you really want because you're worried about how highly held in regard you'd be.
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            Hi guys,
            I never really considered university rankings, I think for my degree I was far more concerned about location really. Obviously, like industry links and success stories were also essential too. Problem is though, Interior Design at Sheffield Hallam is very new and so far them have no success stories.

            Another thing that put me off also, is that I'm a bit of a homegirl; I love the idea of settling down in my hometown and just being happy. Whereas Interior Design would have shipped me off abroad (not guaranteed) as wealthier countries such as Saudi Arabia can afford such luxuries as interior design. This just isn't me and my greatest fear in life in flying so that just wouldn't work!!

            I've e-mailed my course leader but no reply as of yet. It just feels right. I hope I don't regret it but I just cannot see myself doing this anymore. People may say that I've wasted almost a year and a half of my life (a year art foundation diploma) but I don't see it like that.


            Can anyone advise me on student finance and how they will take my leaving? I got full loan/grant, obviously I've only had one payment... can I not cancel any further payments? I also heard I have to pay back my grants, is this true? If so I'm looking at nearly a grand to pay back!

            Cheers!
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            If you contact student finance now, they should be able to stop any future payments to you. Not sure about the payback of grants but if you ring them they'll be able to tell you.

            Good luck!
           
           
           
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