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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11940832

    'HIGH' POTENTIAL IMPACT UNIVERSITIES:

    * Bath Spa University
    * Buckinghamshire New University
    * Canterbury Christ Church University
    * Harper Adams University College
    * Leeds College of Music
    * Leeds Trinity University College
    * Liverpool Hope University
    * Roehampton University
    * Rose Bruford College
    * St Mary's University College, Twickenham
    * Staffordshire University
    * The Arts University College at Bournemouth
    * The University of Chichester
    * The University of Lincoln
    * The University of Winchester
    * The University of Wolverhampton
    * The University of Worcester
    * University College Birmingham
    * University College Falmouth
    * University College Plymouth St Mark and St John
    * University of Chester
    * University of Gloucestershire
    * York St John University


    .....and nothing of value was lost.
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    It would be such a shame if all those highly reputable universities disappeared. lol.
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    (Original post by DorianGrey123)
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11940832

    'HIGH' POTENTIAL IMPACT UNIVERSITIES:

    * Bath Spa University
    * Buckinghamshire New University
    * Canterbury Christ Church University
    * Harper Adams University College
    * Leeds College of Music
    * Leeds Trinity University College
    * Liverpool Hope University
    * Roehampton University
    * Rose Bruford College
    * St Mary's University College, Twickenham
    * Staffordshire University
    * The Arts University College at Bournemouth
    * The University of Chichester
    * The University of Lincoln
    * The University of Winchester
    * The University of Wolverhampton
    * The University of Worcester
    * University College Birmingham
    * University College Falmouth
    * University College Plymouth St Mark and St John
    * University of Chester
    * University of Gloucestershire
    * York St John University


    .....and nothing of value was lost.
    Really? I guess you don't think specialist teacher training institutions are of any value. I mean, it's not like we need well-trained teachers (to pick one example respresented several times in that list that I am immediately familar with). Some of these institutions have been providing specialist education for decades prior to their 1992 re-designation as universities.
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    I've heard all the music colleges are very competitive, so my friend that plans on going to one will prolly be pretty pissed if Leeds closes down.
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    (Original post by DorianGrey123)
    .....and nothing of value was lost.
    Typical TSR snob. Teaching and nursing courses (amongst others) are at risk and you think "nothing of value" will be lost?
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    Great. Im going to Chichester lol. Anyway I never really believe anything a union says.
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    (Original post by Democracy)
    Typical TSR snob. Teaching and nursing courses (amongst others) are at risk and you think "nothing of value" will be lost?
    Get colleges to run them.
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    (Original post by Margaret Thatcher)
    Get colleges to run them.
    What do you think these places were before they became universities? I mean Marjon has hardly changed, the only difference is that it can now award its own degrees. The costs aren't going to suddenly get less because of a simple change of status. Colleges or universities - they still need money.
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    Old thread, I know, but the University of Chester is definitely under no threat of closing with the funding losses. Just another reason to not believe everything you read.
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      Maybe this will force them to find their identity again, do what they did best, provide excellent vocational training.
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      Well their courses are mostly art/humanities focused, which is the area which is getting quite a lot of funding cut,
      so it's hardly surprising.
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      It's mean but my first thought was 'Are any of my choices on the list?' :blush:
      My friend goes to Chester and does Drama and Creative Writing... poor him.
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      I go to york st john- I guess you think we can do without physiotherapists as that's one of the main courses here? I am going to work in community/ youth theatre with my degree which helps a hell of a lot of people- and I'll point out it is an academic not a vocational degree, the whole point is we need people who can think about performance deeply to do this otherwise how will they be able to truly help young people use performance to develop themselves? I hope you know what you are doing after your degree and are getting the relevant work experience before you question others value.
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      Its all very well saying "lets just cut all the art/humanity courses" but that includes subjects such as history, geography some nursing courses and art courses (that probably span into other areas. IE Computer games design...)

      I mean all right there are some courses such as hairdressing etc that really don't need to be there but the arts are our heritage and just cutting them out altogether is destroying it
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      Good.

      • Less universities means less Mickey Mouse degrees
      • Less universities means less graduates
      • Less graduates mean a degree is worth more
      • Less universities will cut maintenance costs and save money on the budget - some of which can be used at other universities


      I said weeks ago that this would happen and that the uni's lower down the table would merge or close down yet I was repeatedly told no it wouldn't happen.

      So all I can say is 'told ya so!'.
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      I'm surprised Cumbria isn't on there. There have been financial problems there for many years. Worcester is on there? I'm surprised at that as there's Olympic stuff (training or something) there so you would have thought that would have helped. I know Harper Adams are definatly trying to get people to go there...they keep sending me stuff and I haven't even applied there. Even the ones I've applied to haven't sent as much as them.
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      (Original post by DorianGrey123)
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11940832

      'HIGH' POTENTIAL IMPACT UNIVERSITIES:

      * Bath Spa University
      * Buckinghamshire New University
      * Canterbury Christ Church University
      * Harper Adams University College
      * Leeds College of Music
      * Leeds Trinity University College
      * Liverpool Hope University
      * Roehampton University
      * Rose Bruford College
      * St Mary's University College, Twickenham
      * Staffordshire University
      * The Arts University College at Bournemouth
      * The University of Chichester
      * The University of Lincoln
      * The University of Winchester
      * The University of Wolverhampton
      * The University of Worcester
      * University College Birmingham
      * University College Falmouth
      * University College Plymouth St Mark and St John
      * University of Chester
      * University of Gloucestershire
      * York St John University


      .....and nothing of value was lost.
      I don't think it's fair to be so disparaging of those universities. I know people doing courses there which are excellent, for example, lots of people do teaching at places like Worcester. There's other valuable, particularly vocational, courses that are only taught at institutions like those. The other massive advantage of these is that they enable people who, for financial reasons, couldn't go to uni to get a degree. For example, some of my friends weren't able to afford to move out and so were limited to courses in the Birmingham area, and places like Newman, which isn't on this list but I've seen it on others, cater brilliantly for people like this, or for mature students who can't go elsewhere for family reasons. These universities may get a bad name, and yes, they probably aren't as academic as 'top 20' unis. That doesn't mean they offer nothing of value.
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      At school I had good teachers and bad teachers. At university I have good lecturers and bad lecturers. There are good supervisors and bad supervisors. Only one of these groups has been trained, and I can't help but feel it trained nothing. I suspect that teaching is more about the person than about what training they have been through, especially when you seem government rules on training. To be honest, I would not feel comfortable with someone being trained under the current ideas being in sole charge of my child's education.

      My point is, these teacher training specialists are not as important as everyone seems to think.

      Nursing, on the other hand... I do quite like nurses. That said, this is one of the ideas behind the cuts. The nursing colleges will close down, and maybe there won't be enough nurses, and then due to the capitalist law of supply and demand, new nursing colleges will open that are capable of sustaining themselves by offering a higher quality service. The level of nursing increases. If the nursing colleges are closing, that is because people are not going to them because they feel they will not gain anything from it. I would have thought that most applicants are looking to get a job out of their nursing qualification, so if they feel they can't get this out of going to these nursing colleges, maybe we have a surplus of nurses. Maybe we don't need the colleges at all.
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      Chichester's denied being at risk too. Think the press release was along the lines of 'do some more research (about the universities in question) and less crystal ball gazing...'
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      Oh no, not Bath Spa...

      Who gives a ****, they're not proper unis anyway.
     
     
     
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