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Calm Down - It Still Has To Go Through House Of Lords On Tuesday Watch

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    As much as I would love to do this to Cameron & Clegg :pop: the motions passed still need to go through the House Of Lords before they can be considered laws.

    Also, only 2 motions so far have been passed.

    1st vote was for the max fee to be set at £9000

    2nd vote was for the lower end fee of £6000, a university can charge upto that but to charge between £6000-9000 they need special permission.

    There is still hope, although only a little for Tuesdays decision.

    However, the rest of what has been proposed still must be voted on in the future so all is not lost.

    Keep protesting and Keep faith.

    This may be a battle lost, but lets win the war !
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    Your not going to win the war. The public hates the students now especially after the last protest and no political party supports the students. Labour only voted against it because they prefer a grad tax
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    when does it go to house of lords?
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    You realise that the House of Lords is wayyyy more likely to vote for this than the Commons was?
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    (Original post by Lewroll)
    when does it go to house of lords?
    Tuesday
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    Surely the Lords will only vote against it if it clashes with law? I thought their job was more to review bills that they vote on?
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    Yes, because the way to get a U-turn on government policy is to rely on the House of Lords :rolleyes:
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    It'll pass the Lords no problem, so easily that the Lords can be deemed invalid. The Lords have bugger all power in effect, this isn't the 1640s.
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    Even if it doesn't, the Lords only has the power to delay legislation temporarily, not stop it outright.
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    LOL, like the house of lords is going to support the students after the last protest?

    You might get some fat useless oaf like prescott supporting you, but thats only if hes still not in the canteen after lunch.
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      (Original post by jb9191)
      As much as I would love to do this to Cameron & Clegg :pop: the motions passed still need to go through the House Of Lords before they can be considered laws.

      Also, only 2 motions so far have been passed.

      1st vote was for the max fee to be set at £9000

      2nd vote was for the lower end fee of £6000, a university can charge upto that but to charge between £6000-9000 they need special permission.

      There is still hope, although only a little for Tuesdays decision.

      However, the rest of what has been proposed still must be voted on in the future so all is not lost.

      Keep protesting and Keep faith.

      This may be a battle lost, but lets win the war !
      Isn't that said when you lose a game as the Russians in Call of Duty 4 multiplayer? Pah, proof that games are turning young people into mindless sheep. :grumble:
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      Pipe down.
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      (Original post by jumpingjesusholycow)
      Yes, because the way to get a U-turn on government policy is to rely on the House of Lords :rolleyes:
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...s-dropped.html

      Not saying it will happen in this case (it won't) but it has happened before.
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      Has about the same chance of failing in the lords as Clegg does of getting re-elected.
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      (Original post by Kiwiguy)
      LOL, like the house of lords is going to support the students after the last protest?

      You might get some fat useless oaf like prescott supporting you, but thats only if hes still not in the canteen after lunch.
      This made me laugh :rofl:.

      I thought they reviewed the motions put through in the house of lords and surely if they can prove that Clegg and the rest of the Liberal Democrats that have gone against their pre election pledge, they can void their votes that were in the House Of Commons.

      As 28 Liberal Democrats voted for it to be increased and there was a 21 majority then if those 28 votes were voided in the House Of Lords then those who opposed the fee increase have won on a majority of 7 votes.

      I'm pretty sure Labour members and some Lib Dem members are going to go full on to get this rejected in the House Of Lords.

      It would then mean Clegg can be removed as the Lib Dem leader - which the majority of the Lib Dem's want anyway and it also allows the Lib Dems who stuck to their word the chance to gain some good press as the true Liberal Democrats who have stuck to their pre election pledge will have stopped the Tories, therefore, it will be a great moment for the Liberal Democrat Party.
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      (Original post by jb9191)
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      Theres a lot of what ifs in there mate.

      Not only that, but there is emergency laws that enable the HoL to be avoided, remember the invasion of iraq? Granted, this isnt an emergency situation, but neither was the invasion, but that got passed through.

      I think that you should just accept it mate. The law has gone through. Its all over bar the shouting.
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      (Original post by Aj12)
      Your not going to win the war. The public hates the students now especially after the last protest and no political party supports the students. Labour only voted against it because they prefer a grad tax
      Incorrect. They voted against it for political opportunism and nothing else, hence why Ed Miliband refused to promise to overturn the bill should he win the next election when asked about it moments after the vote. Says it all really

      It's also worth reminding people, not even Labour are united in their support of a graduate tax, never mind the fact universities are dead against it

      The fact remains you can't protest against something like this without offering a viable alternative that's universally agreed upon, and expect the public to support you over it. The only support students have got are from morons who've lapped up the left wing media's relentless mass information about the fees, fuelled by anti Tory sentiment
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      (Original post by jb9191)
      As much as I would love to do this to Cameron & Clegg :pop: the motions passed still need to go through the House Of Lords before they can be considered laws.

      Also, only 2 motions so far have been passed.

      1st vote was for the max fee to be set at £9000

      2nd vote was for the lower end fee of £6000, a university can charge upto that but to charge between £6000-9000 they need special permission.

      There is still hope, although only a little for Tuesdays decision.

      However, the rest of what has been proposed still must be voted on in the future so all is not lost.

      Keep protesting and Keep faith.

      This may be a battle lost, but lets win the war !
      Sorry, but give up hope.
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      (Original post by Mr Inquisitive)
      Sorry, but give up hope.
      I'm Welsh but I will fight for the English.

      :fight:
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      (Original post by jb9191)
      As much as I would love to do this to Cameron & Clegg :pop: the motions passed still need to go through the House Of Lords before they can be considered laws.

      Also, only 2 motions so far have been passed.

      1st vote was for the max fee to be set at £9000

      2nd vote was for the lower end fee of £6000, a university can charge upto that but to charge between £6000-9000 they need special permission.

      There is still hope, although only a little for Tuesdays decision.

      However, the rest of what has been proposed still must be voted on in the future so all is not lost.

      Keep protesting and Keep faith.

      This may be a battle lost, but lets win the war !
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