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    One person has been killed and two others injured in two explosions that rocked the centre of the Swedish capital, Stockholm.

    A car blew up near the busy shopping street of Drottninggatan and another blast followed nearby minutes later.

    Swedish press attributed the second blast to a suicide bomber but police said no cause had yet been determined.

    Foreign Minister Carl Bildt said a "terrorist attack" which could have been "truly catastrophic" had failed.

    Tweeting on the blasts, he described them as "most worrying".

    A local news agency, TT, said it had received a threatening e-mail shortly before the blasts, which called for "mujahideen", or Islamist fighters, to rise up in Sweden and Europe.

    Attacking the country over caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed drawn by Swedish artist Lars Vilks as well as Sweden's military presence in Afghanistan, the e-mail promised Swedes would "die like our brothers and sisters".

    Sweden has 500 soldiers deployed in Afghanistan as part of the international peacekeeping force.

    In November, the country raised its terror alert level from low to elevated because of a "shift in activities" among Swedish-based groups that could be plotting attacks.
    'Pipe bombs'
    A police forensics officer examines the area around the man killed in Stockholm, 11 December Police forensics officers examined the area around the body

    Both blasts hit central Stockholm as the streets were busy with people out Christmas shopping.

    The car exploded at 1700 (1600 GMT) and the second blast occurred 10 to 15 minutes later on a street about 300m (300yds) away, police spokesman Kjell Lindgren said.

    A man was found dead near the site of the second explosion and two people with minor injuries were also found nearby.

    Asked if the dead man had somehow blown himself up, Mr Lindgren said: "It is possible."

    Unconfirmed reports in Sweden's Aftonbladet newspaper said the man was carrying pipe bombs, as well as a backpack full of nails.

    Another police spokesman, Ulf Johansson, told the BBC police would not rush to judgement.

    "We need more investigation and of course we need more witnesses to give us the information of what actually has happened," he said.

    He said the car had contained gas canisters and had "exploded with a series of minor explosions".

    The identities of the dead man and those injured have not been released.
    'Stomach injury'

    A former employee of the Associated Press news agency, Gabriel Gabiro, was close to the second blast.
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    "I saw some people crying, perhaps from the shock," he told the agency.

    "There was a man lying on the ground with blood coming out in the area of his belly, and with his personal belongings scattered around him."

    A trained medic named only as Pascal also said the man appeared to have a stomach injury.

    "It looked as if the man had carried something that exploded in his stomach," he said on the website of newspaper Dagens Nyheter.

    "He had no injuries to the face or body in general and the shops around were not damaged."

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    (Original post by PlanetEuropa)
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11977524

    One person has been killed and two others injured in two explosions that rocked the centre of the Swedish capital, Stockholm.

    A car blew up near the busy shopping street of Drottninggatan and another blast followed nearby minutes later.

    Swedish press attributed the second blast to a suicide bomber but police said no cause had yet been determined.

    Foreign Minister Carl Bildt said a "terrorist attack" which could have been "truly catastrophic" had failed.

    Tweeting on the blasts, he described them as "most worrying".

    A local news agency, TT, said it had received a threatening e-mail shortly before the blasts, which called for "mujahideen", or Islamist fighters, to rise up in Sweden and Europe.

    Attacking the country over caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed drawn by Swedish artist Lars Vilks as well as Sweden's military presence in Afghanistan, the e-mail promised Swedes would "die like our brothers and sisters".

    Sweden has 500 soldiers deployed in Afghanistan as part of the international peacekeeping force.

    In November, the country raised its terror alert level from low to elevated because of a "shift in activities" among Swedish-based groups that could be plotting attacks.
    'Pipe bombs'
    A police forensics officer examines the area around the man killed in Stockholm, 11 December Police forensics officers examined the area around the body

    Both blasts hit central Stockholm as the streets were busy with people out Christmas shopping.

    The car exploded at 1700 (1600 GMT) and the second blast occurred 10 to 15 minutes later on a street about 300m (300yds) away, police spokesman Kjell Lindgren said.

    A man was found dead near the site of the second explosion and two people with minor injuries were also found nearby.

    Asked if the dead man had somehow blown himself up, Mr Lindgren said: "It is possible."

    Unconfirmed reports in Sweden's Aftonbladet newspaper said the man was carrying pipe bombs, as well as a backpack full of nails.

    Another police spokesman, Ulf Johansson, told the BBC police would not rush to judgement.

    "We need more investigation and of course we need more witnesses to give us the information of what actually has happened," he said.

    He said the car had contained gas canisters and had "exploded with a series of minor explosions".

    The identities of the dead man and those injured have not been released.
    'Stomach injury'

    A former employee of the Associated Press news agency, Gabriel Gabiro, was close to the second blast.
    Continue reading the main story
    “Start Quote

    There was a man lying on the ground with blood coming out in the area of his belly”

    End Quote Gabriel Gabiro Witness

    "I saw some people crying, perhaps from the shock," he told the agency.

    "There was a man lying on the ground with blood coming out in the area of his belly, and with his personal belongings scattered around him."

    A trained medic named only as Pascal also said the man appeared to have a stomach injury.

    "It looked as if the man had carried something that exploded in his stomach," he said on the website of newspaper Dagens Nyheter.

    "He had no injuries to the face or body in general and the shops around were not damaged."

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    STOP ALL MUSLIM IMMIGRATION NOW, BEFORE ITS TOO LATE
    wonder which extremist cell was involved in this attack? Pakistani cell? Let's hope the swedish gov have the balls (unlike the spineless british) to deal with such a threat.

    after both positive and negative response to this comment, I'll make it clear that I don't believe it was necessarily a terror attack by a pakistani cell, rather that if it was a genuine terror attack then pakistani connectino could be one of the possible involvement (as well as any other cell group)
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    (Original post by miike1234)
    Attacking Sweden is like kicking a puppy
    attacking britain is like .............(fill in the blank)
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    Just out of interest OP, How would stopping all muslim immigration stop terrorism ?

    considering most 'terrorists' that domestically attack are born in europe anyway ...
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    (Original post by bunty64)
    wonder which extremist cell was involved in this attack? Pakistani cell? Let's hope the swedish gov have the balls (unlike the spineless british) to deal with such a threat.

    Yeah, the british do nothing...it's not like they tried to make it so they could detain people for 90 days without charge.
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    (Original post by Gontak)
    Yeah, the british do nothing...it's not like they tried to make it so they could detain people for 90 days without charge.
    not talking about the domestic level (that won't acheive anything). Rather on the international level. Cameron tried this and majorly failed. Zadari ended up rubbishing his claim that they are terrorist supporters and ended up dictating the agenda of his trip to the uk.

    More recently the prime minister of pakistan told cameron to **** off (well perhaps not in those exact words, but he meant the same thing), when cameron wanted to stop by after his tour of afghanistan.

    Obama was right, cameron is a lightweight!
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    (Original post by Phantom_X)
    Just out of interest OP, How would stopping all muslim immigration stop terrorism ?

    considering most 'terrorists' that domestically attack are born in europe anyway ...
    Muslims born in Europe you mean. By limiting Islamic immigration we limit the amount of Muslims both migrated and born here. Therefore Islamic terrorism can be significantly reduced. Muslims aree Europes largest security risk and terrorist threat, almost europeas sole terrorist threat, therefore it makes sense to stop them coming here.
    We need Muslim immigrants like we need a hole in the head.
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    (Original post by Gontak)
    Yeah, the british do nothing...it's not like they tried to make it so they could detain people for 90 days without charge.
    And rightly so, I fully adovate detaining terror suspects with out charg, do you know why ?

    Because I don;t want my family blown up on a bus.
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    oh so muslims are terrorists you say? how come i aint bombed or hurt anyone yet?
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    (Original post by PlanetEuropa)
    And rightly so, I fully adovate detaining terror suspects with out charg, do you know why ?

    Because I don;t want my family blown up on a bus.
    How are terror suspects terrorist? Where do you draw the line? Shall we hold suspected murderers, thieves and rapist because I don't want to be murdered, having anything stolen from and raped.
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    (Original post by PlanetEuropa)
    Your religion incites terrorism, and I don't give me 'that koran/islam says/does'nt say bull****'

    We are not at rish from buddhist terrorists, christian terrorist or sikh terrorsts, we are at a significant threat from Muslims terrorist and the fact is that if we ban Islamic immigraiton we make our country a safe better place. Muslims contribute nothing of significant value to europe, you degrade europe with you backs wards beliefs and values.
    tell me where it incites hatred and what backward belief and values do i believe? pls tell me what i believe i want to hear this
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    tell me where it incites hatred and what backward belief and values do i believe? pls tell me what i believe i want to hear this
    The Quran Distinguishes Muslims from Non-Muslims
    and Establishes a Hierarchy of Relative Worth

    The Quran makes it clear that Islam is not about universal brotherhood, but about the brotherhood of believers:

    The Believers are but a single Brotherhood (49:10)

    Not all men are equal under Islam. Slaves and the handicapped are not equal to healthy free men, for example (16:75-76). The Quran introduces the “Law of Equality,” which establishes different levels of human value when considering certain matters, such as restitution for murder (2:178).

    Neither are Muslim believers equal to non-Muslims:

    Are those who know equal to those who know not? (39:09)

    Is the blind equal to the one who sees" Or darkness equal to light? (13:16)

    The Quran plainly tells Muslims that they are a favored race, while those of other religions are “perverted transgressors”:

    Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors. (3:110)

    As we shall see later, Allah condemns non-Muslims to Hell based merely on their unbelief, while believers are rewarded with the finest earthly comforts in the hereafter, including never-ending food, wine and sex (56:12-40). In fact, much of the Quran is devoted to distinguishing Muslims from non-Muslims and impugning the latter.

    The first sura of the Quran is an example of this. It is a short prayer that is repeated by devout Muslims each day and ends with these words:

    Keep us on the right path. The path of those upon whom Thou hast bestowed favors. Not (the path) of those upon whom Thy wrath is brought down, nor of those who go astray. (1:6-7)

    Muhammad was once asked if these words pertained to Jews and Christians. His response was, "Whom else?" (Bukhari 56:662).

    Since Allah makes such a strong distinction between Muslims and those outside the faith, it is only natural that Muslims should incorporate disparate standards of treatment into their daily lives. The Quran tells Muslims to be compassionate with one another but ruthless to the infidel:

    Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves… (48:29)

    Allah intends for Muslims to triumph over unbelievers:

    And never will Allah grant to the unbelievers a way to triumph over believers [Pickthall – “any way of success”] (4:141)

    The only acceptable position of non-Muslims to Muslims is subjugation under Islamic rule:

    Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. (9:29 Jizya is the money that non-Muslims must pay to their Muslim overlords in a pure Islamic state.)

    A common criticism of many Muslims is that they often behave arrogantly toward others. Now you know why.



    The Quran Dehumanizes Non-Muslims
    and Says that They are Vile Animals

    The Ayatollah Khomeini, who dedicated his entire life to studying Islam, said that non-Muslims rank somewhere between "feces" and the "sweat of a camel that has consumed impure food." Small wonder. The Quran dehumanizes non-Muslims, describing them as “animals” and beasts:

    Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures. (98:6)

    Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve, then they would not believe. (8:55)

    Verse 7:176 compares unbelievers to "panting dogs" with regard to their idiocy and worthlessness. Verse 7:179 says they are like "cattle" only worse.

    Verse 5:60 even says that Allah transformed Jews of the past into apes and pigs. This is echoed by verses 7:166 and 2:65.

    A hadith says that Muhammad believed rats to be "mutated Jews" (Bukhari 54:524, also confirmed by Sahih Muslim 7135 and 7136).

    Verses 46:29-35 even say that unbelieving men are worse than demons who believe in Muhammad.

    According to Islamic law, non-Muslims may be owned as property by Muslims, but - in keeping with Islam's supremacist message - a fellow Muslim should never be (unless they convert to Islam after enslavement). Even Christians and Jews are not considered fully human in that the penalty for killing one of them is limited to one-third of the compensation due for unintentionally killing a Muslim.



    The Quran Says that Allah does NOT Love Unbelievers

    Christianity teaches that God loves all people, but hates sin. The Quran never says this. Instead it explicitly declares that Allah does not love those who do not believe in him:

    He does not love the unbelievers (30:45)

    Allah only loves those who obey Muhammad (at least according to Muhammad, who provided the "narration"):

    Say: "Obey Allah and His Messenger": But if they turn back, Allah loveth not those who reject Faith. (3:32)

    Instead of a god that loves the sinner, even while hating the sin, the wrath of Allah is placed squarely on the individual:

    Surely Allah does not love any one who is unfaithful, ungrateful. (22:38)

    Verses 11:118-199 say that Allah does not bestow mercy on everyone. For this reason, he chooses not to guide some people:

    And Allah's is the direction of the way, and some (roads) go not straight. And had He willed He would have led you all aright. (16:9)

    For those whom Allah does not love, there will be the most terrible of eternal torments, including eternal roasting:

    Those who reject our Signs, We shall soon cast into the Fire: as often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the penalty: for Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise. (4:56)

    "Allah is the enemy of the unbelievers" (2:98) and, as we shall see, he hates them so much that he even leads them into sinning and actively prevents them from believing in him, thus ensuring their fate.



    The Quran Says that Non-Muslims are
    Destined for Eternal Torture in Hell

    Although nowhere does the Quran say that Allah loves those who don’t believe Muhammad, there are over 400 verses that describe the torment that he has prepared for people of other religions (or no religion):

    And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers (3:85)

    The relative worth of non-Muslims is that they are but fuel for the fire of Hell:

    (As for) those who disbelieve, surely neither their wealth nor their children shall avail them in the least against Allah, and these it is who are the fuel of the fire (3:10 Shakir: "firewood of hell")

    As they are fueling the fire, unbelievers will be tormented by Allah’s angels on his command:

    “O ye who believe! Ward off from yourselves and your families a Fire whereof the fuel is men and stones, over which are set angels strong, severe, who resist not Allah in that which He commandeth them, but do that which they are commanded.” (66:6)

    It doesn’t matter how many good deeds an unbeliever does, because they count for nothing with Allah:

    The parable of those who reject their Lord is that their works are as ashes, on which the wind blows furiously on a tempestuous day: No power have they over aught that they have earned (14:18)

    Shall we tell you of those who lose most in respect of their deeds? Those whose efforts have been wasted in this life, while they thought that they were acquiring good by their works? They are those who deny the Signs of their Lord and the fact of their having to meet Him (in the Hereafter): vain will be their works, nor shall We, on the Day of Judgment, give them any weight. That is their reward, Hell, because they rejected Faith, and took My Signs and My Messengers by way of jest. (18:103-106)

    Muhammad told his people that anyone who rejects his claim to be a prophet will go to Hell:

    Surely those who disbelieve in Allah and His messengers and (those who) desire to make a distinction between Allah and His messengers and say: ‘We believe in some and disbelieve in others’, and desire to take a course between (this and) that. These it is that are truly unbelievers, and We have prepared for the unbelievers a disgraceful chastisement. And those who believe in Allah and His messengers and do not make a distinction between any of them-- Allah will grant them their rewards (4:150-152)

    In Christianity, punishment in the hereafter is directly tied to sin and ‘wickedness.’ There is relatively little said about Hell, but the emphasis is on personal suffering for selfish or cruel deeds. In Islam, Hell is a punishment for merely not believing Muhammad’s personal claims about himself. In contrast to the Bible, every 12th verse of the Quran speaks of Hell and vividly describes Allah’s wrath on unbelievers:

    But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads, Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted; And for them are hooked rods of iron Whenever, in their anguish, they would go forth from thence they are driven back therein and (it is said unto them): Taste the doom of burning. (22:19-22)

    No one could torture a person in this way without hating them intensely. Neither can Allah’s intense loathing for unbelievers help but affect the Muslim attitude toward those outside the faith.

    The personal superiority of Muslims is confirmed by the contrasting picture painted in so many places in the Quran in which they are rewarded with the greatest of earthly comforts in heaven, while the unbelievers concurrently suffer horrible torment (see Sura 56 for just one example).



    Allah Himself Prevents Non-Muslims from Understanding

    It would make no sense if Allah gave the people that he hates an opportunity to avoid his wrath. The Quran says that Allah deliberately puts obstacles in the way of unbelievers to keep them from accepting the truth:

    If Allah wished, he could provide guidance to every soul:

    If We had so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true guidance (32:13)

    But, instead he sets a veil over the hearts and coverings over their ears:

    Verily We have set veils over their hearts lest they should understand this, and over their ears, deafness, if thou callest them to guidance, even then will they never accept guidance. (18:57) – See also 17:46 & 45:23

    Allah even uses chains and barriers to prevent unbelievers from believing:

    Certainly the word has proved true of most of them, so they do not believe. Surely We have placed chains on their necks, and these reach up to their chins, so they have their heads raised aloft. And We have made before them a barrier and a barrier behind them, then We have covered them over so that they do not see. And it is alike to them whether you warn them or warn them not: they do not believe. (36:7-10)

    For the same purpose, Allah also fills the hearts of unbelievers with doubt:

    No soul can believe, except by the will of Allah, and He will place doubt (or obscurity) on those who will not understand (10:100)



    Allah Actually Causes Non-Muslims to Sin

    Not content with merely preventing unbelievers from knowing the truth (which is enough to condemn them to Hell) the Quran says that a hateful Allah also causes unbelievers to commit the very sin that he will later punish them for:

    And if Allah please He would certainly make you a single nation, but He causes to err whom He pleases and guides whom He pleases; and most certainly you will be questioned as to what you did (16:93)

    Although Satan tempts Muslims, it is Allah himself who causes unbelievers to err.

    …and whomsoever Allah causes to err, you shall not find a way for him. (4:143, see also 4:88)

    Allah intentionally sends the people that he hates astray:

    …and Allah sendeth him astray purposely, and sealeth up his hearing and his heart, and setteth on his sight a covering? Then who will lead him after Allah (hath condemned him)? Will ye not then heed? (45:23)

    Allah even sends demons to inspire unbelievers to commit further bad deeds (that he can later hold against them):

    See thou not that We have set the Evil Ones on against the unbelievers, to incite them with fury? (19:83)

    According to verse 3:54, Allah plots and schemes against unbelievers using deceit (the literal meaning of makara, the word used). Elsewhere, the Quran explains that Allah tricks unbelievers into thinking that they are doing good deeds, when, in fact, they are merely deepening their own eternal punishment with bad deeds:

    As to those who do not believe in the hereafter, We have surely made their deeds fair-seeming to them, but they blindly wander on. (27:4) See also 39:23, 6:39, 35:8, 13:27 & 14:4)

    Allah recruits Satan to join Him into fooling unbelievers into thinking that they are doing good:

    On the contrary their hearts became hardened, and Satan made their (sinful) acts seem alluring to them. (6:43)

    The joke is on non-Muslims, of course, who will protest on Judgment Day that they did everything they thought was right – but are sent to Hell anyway:

    Then would they offer submission (with the pretence), "We did no evil (knowingly)." (The angels will reply), "Nay, but verily Allah knows all that ye did; "So enter the gates of Hell, to dwell therein. (16:28-29)



    The Quran Says that Non-Muslims Should Not be Taken as Friends

    Given that Allah hates non-Muslims to the extent that he would prevent them from knowing the truth, cause them to err and then condemn them to eternal torture for their unbelief and misdeeds, it would make little sense if he intended Muslims to treat unbelievers by the same standards that they treat each other here on earth.

    The Quran says that no true Muslim would ever love anyone who resists Islam, even if it is a family member:

    Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred. (58:22)

    There are at least nine places in the Quran where believers are warned not to befriend non-Muslims:

    O ye who believe! Take not for friends unbelievers rather than believers: Do ye wish to offer Allah an open proof against yourselves? (4:144)

    In fact, anyone who does take a non-Muslim as a friend could be accused of being an unbeliever as well:

    O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk. (5:51)

    Note that Christians, according to the Quran, are included in the ranks of "unbelievers":

    They indeed have disbelieved who say: Lo! Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary (5:17)

    Muhammad said that unbelievers have it out for Muslims. They may appear harmless or friendly, but, in reality, they harbor corruption and evil intentions:

    O ye who believe! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks: They will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire your ruin: Rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths: What their hearts conceal is far worse (3:118)

    For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies (4:101)

    As for them, they are but plotting a scheme (86:15)

    Those outside of Islam are really helpers of evil against Allah:

    The Misbeliever is a helper (of Evil), against his own Lord! (25:55)

    Instead of befriending non-Muslims, the Quran encourages hostility. Muslims are ordered to fight unbelievers:

    O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty. (9:123)

    The Quran tells Muslims that they will spend eternity laughing at unbelievers (83:34) and mocking their suffering as they are tortured in Hell:

    And the dwellers of the garden will call out to the inmates of the fire: Surely we have found what our Lord promised us to be true; have you too found what your Lord promised to be true? They will say: Yes. Then a crier will cry out among them that the curse of Allah is on the unjust. (7:44) – Muhammad got an early start on this by personally mocking his dead enemies following the Battle of Badr (Ibn Ishaq 454)

    One does not befriend those over whose suffering they will later rejoice, nor does it make any sense that Muslims would befriend those whom the Quran labels "enemies of Allah" by virtue of their unbelief.



    The Quran Says that Other Religions are Cursed by Allah

    Buddhists in Thailand, Jews in Israel, Christians in Indonesia, Hindus in India... Why is Islam at war with every major world religion, when none of these religions are at war with each other? Part of the reason is that the Quran is specific about the inferiority of other faiths (see 48:28) and the hatred that Allah harbors for their people.

    Although it is common for Muslims to become upset about anyone “insulting” their religion, here is what the Quran says about Jews and Christians:

    The Jews call Ezra a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! (9:30) (See also Bukhari 8:427), one of the last things Muhammad ever said on his deathbed was "May Allah curse the Jews and Christians.”)

    The Quran specifically addresses Christians, Jews, Polytheists (Hindus) and atheists:

    Christians are blasphemers (5:17, 5:73) who have invented a lie about Allah (10:68-69) by ascribing partners to Allah (ie. the Trinity). Inventing a lie about Allah is the worst of sins (7:37, 29:68) and for this reason Christians are condemned to Hell (10:70). Although one (early Medinan) verse seems to say that righteous Christians will go to heaven, this is abrogated by later verses that make it very clear that Christians must cease being Christian (ie. reject the Trinity) or suffer eternal torment for their beliefs (5:72-73).

    Jews are also cursed by Allah (5:13), in one of his final pronouncements. The Quran goes on to assure Muslims that Jews are wicked (4:160-162) – so wicked, in fact, that they have somehow managed to do the impossible (18:27) and alter the word of Allah (2:75). Jews are “fond of lies” and “devour the forbidden” (5:42).

    The Quran assures believers that Jews and Christians have “diseased hearts” (5:52). Allah even takes credit for the enmity between them (5:14). Only Jews and Christians who submit to Islamic subjugation and pay the Jizya are protected in this world (9:29 & Ibn Ishaq 956).

    Hindus are polytheists. Although Muhammad didn’t know any Hindus (and neither did Allah, apparently) the Quran still manages to lay the groundwork for the 1000 year ethnic cleansing campaign against the Hindu people that is estimated to have taken tens of millions of innocent lives. In Islam, polytheists are worse than all other religion. Those who join idols (14:30) or false gods (11:14) to Allah also invent a lie about Him (29:17) and will burn in Hell. Even believing in other divine entities along with Allah is an unforgivable crime (4:48, 40:12).

    Atheists believe in no god, which is even worse than believing in the wrong one (Muhammad and his successors had atheists put to death - Bukhari 84:57). Merely questioning the existence of Allah is a testament to one’s impiety (25:21), even as Muslim narcissim is encouraged in the Quran. Muhammad always answered probing questions merely by telling the inquiring party that they would go to Hell if they didn’t believe in him (36:49-64). The Quran discourages Muslims from intellectual inquiry (5:101-102).

    Anyone who gives up his religion is a “perverted transgressor” (3:82). Perverted as well is anyone who denies Allah (40:63) or does not believe Muhammad (2:99). Freedom of conscience does not exist in Islam. Muhammad clearly prescribed the death penalty for apostates (Bukhari 52:260).

    While contemporary Muslim apologists often speak of “dialogue” (meaning a unilateral arrangement in which they tell you about Islam while you listen) the Quran speaks of Jihad instead:

    Listen not to the unbelievers, but strive (Jihad) against them with the utmost strenuousness. (25:52)

    What would be the point in hearing anything a non-Muslim has to say... or even talking with them for that matter? Allah has already sealed their hearts and condemned them to Hell:

    As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not. Allah hath sealed their hearing and their hearts, and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be an awful doom (2:6)

    For those wondering why Allah would even make infidels if their ultimate destination is Hell, Muhammad said that the purpose of some (Jews and Christians, at least) was to take the place of Muslims, so that they would not suffer there (Sahih Muslim 6666).



    The Quran Says that People of Other Religions
    are to be Violently Punished in This World

    Allah himself fights against the unbelievers (9:30), so why should Muslims not fight in his cause rather than in the cause of evil (4:76)? About 19% of the Quran is devoted to the violent conquest and subjugation of non-Muslims:

    Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies and others besides, whom ye may not know (8:60)

    Strive hard (Jihad) against the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed. (66:9, See also 9:73)

    Muslims are to expect a reward in this life as well as the next (4:134), so it makes sense that unbelievers should be punished in this life as well:

    …He whom Allah sendeth astray, for him there is no guide. For them is a penalty in the life of this world, but harder, truly, is the penalty of the Hereafter… (13:33:34)

    All beings on heaven and earth will be forced to bow down to Allah, either willingly or by force:

    And unto Allah falleth prostrate whosoever is in the heavens and the earth, willingly or unwillingly (13:15)

    Those who resist Islam will be humiliated:

    Those who resist Allah and His Messenger will be among those most humiliated. (58:20 - The context for this verse is the eviction of the Jewish tribes of Medina and the confiscation of their wealth, land, and children by Muhammad).

    Non-Muslims are to be fought until religion is only for Allah:

    And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah… (8:39 – “Persecution” in this context means resistance to Islam – defined in the prior verse as an unwillingness to believe (see verse 38). This passage was “revealed” following a battle that Muhammad deliberately provoked. Verse 2:193 essentially says the same thing and was also “revealed” at a time when the Muslims were not under physical attack).

    Those with "diseased hearts" - which include Christians and Jews according to 5:52 - are to be "seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter" (33:60-62) along with "hypocrites" (Muslims who are judged not to be true believers by their associations with unbelievers or their unwillingness to engage in Jihad).

    Non-Muslims are to be encroached on and pressured by the Muslims:

    See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? (13:41 - See also 21:44)

    And He made you heirs to their land and their dwellings and their property, and (to) a land which you have not yet trodden, and Allah has power over all things. (33:27, See also Bukhari 53:392)

    Allah will grant Muslims authority and power over all other people:

    Allah has promised, to those among you who believe and work righteous deeds, that He will, of a surety, grant them in the land, inheritance (of power), as He granted it to those before them; that He will establish in authority their religion... (24:55)

    (Muhammad's companions continued to self-fulfill this prophecy with an aggressive and senseless military expansion that left a trail of bodies from Spain to India).

    Allah provides instructions to Muslims for dealing with unbelievers who are unwilling to accept Islamic rule:

    Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them." This because they contended against Allah and His Messenger: If any contend against Allah and His Messenger, Allah is strict in punishment. (8:12-13)

    Other verses of violence may be found here.

    Remember that the Quran says that not all men are equal in Islam. This also applies to Muslims themselves with regard to their aggressiveness toward unbelievers. Those who kill or are killed on behalf of Islam are more pleasing to Allah:

    Not equal are those of the believers who sit at home... and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and lives" (4:95)
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    Stupid anology, Rapsists and murders do not follow a specific doctirine unlike Muslims, rapists are not part of rapists cells waiting to strike.

    Are you thick or something.

    If the police want 180 days to detain terror subjects then give it to them. as I said I don;t want my family blown up in a bus or shopping centre.
    So, this is all political? It's not do with your safety as your implying in your last bit. I don't want my sister raped. I don't want my mother murdered. And I don't want my things stolen. Lock up thieves, murderers and rapist.
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    long ass copy paste post
    ok who the fak wrote that? because it seems to me that someone tried to sum it up as their own opinion thinking it is 100% right, no i want YOU to tell me what you think i believe in, dont copy paste the same biased opinion of some loner, thanks
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    (Original post by rquaresma)
    ok who the fak wrote that? because it seems to me that someone tried to sum it up as their own opinion thinking it is 100% right, no i want YOU to tell me what you think i believe in, dont copy paste the same biased opinion of some loner, thanks
    You asked a question I gave you an answer. I don't care if you accept it or not.
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    (Original post by bunty64)
    attacking britain is like .............(fill in the blank)

    Being really ****ing stupid


    "Will I get past imigration? Yes.

    Will I shop in Tesco? Mabye.


    Get 3 for 2 on all Pork? If you're lucky. Nah!


    Loose? - GARUNTEED "
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    (Original post by PlanetEuropa)
    You asked a question I gave you an answer. I don't care if you accept it or not.
    i asked a question

    you dodged it

    you should be on the BNP
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    (Original post by PlanetEuropa)
    Muslims born in Europe you mean. By limiting Islamic immigration we limit the amount of Muslims both migrated and born here. Therefore Islamic terrorism can be significantly reduced. Muslims aree Europes largest security risk and terrorist threat, almost europeas sole terrorist threat, therefore it makes sense to stop them coming here.
    We need Muslim immigrants like we need a hole in the head.
    The Geert Wilder's rhetoric isnt actually very valid though, is it ?

    Firstly, 'Muslim Terrorism' is a fairly new concept. a few decades ago, you could be saying that we never 'needed' Irish people here either. Furthermore, Islamic Terrorism isn't really rooted in religion as it is in international politics. For example, could a muslim terrorist justify his attacks on civillians if UK troops were not in Iraq or Afghanistan ? Could they justify their rhetoric of western imperialism if it had not been the case that western governments did prop up dictators during the cold war and before ? There is no effect without a cause, and while Muslim terrorists may use religion as an agent of justification, their real hatred is not religious as much as it is political. This is simply history.

    Secondly, if you actively discriminate against muslims in terms of immigration, not only does this create more animosity between muslims and the west, it also would increase radicalization. Secondly, there is the question of 'where does it stop'. Say that you stop muslim immigration. Then you realise that there may be more radical muslims- which would then lead to discriminating against muslims already inside the UK, and stripping them of civil liberties under 'national security'. This would then get progressively worse until even british born muslims are seen as third class citizens. Dont put it past Europe too- it has happened before in Africa and the Middle East.
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    attacking britain is like .............(fill in the blank)
    Like attacking a sleepy great dane, gentle creatures by nature, but if it turned nasty you would not want to be in the same room as it. At the moment we are half asleep in that politicians took us in too two 'wars', but they are afraid to fight them the way wars ought to be fought,like the war in WW2. There is not the will there. The media is much to blame, during ww2, they completely supported britain 100 percent in the war against fascism. But now the media is a nest of communist vermin, most of whom should be put against a wall and shot.

    If we are at war, we should fight it like one, conscription, carpet bombing, if needs be we should turn afghanistan into a nuclear wasteland.We should not care about a dead muslim woman or child in these countries,we should kill them all. The interesting thing is,during the troubles in NI, we have more troops looking after a smaller area than we do in afghanistan. Again, it is a disgrace to our troops that we are killing them like this, when our politicians and ourselves will not commit to fight this like a war and not a police action. We are at war with islam,so we should intern all uk muslims, as we did in ww2, with the germans living here.And as the US did, with the japanese.We should place them is mass camps, and negotiate with muslims countries regarding their deportation, they should be detained for the protection of the state and for their own protection against those who might want to harm them. The ironic thing,is the us president then roosevelt was very left wing a democrat president,but even he knew ,we had to do the unthinkable to beat fascism . How different from the red diper doper babies in charge now.So called conservatives.... bush.... camerooon. I feel sorry for the soldiers, having to fight wars in a way to satisfy the PC whims of politicians, who are frightened of a the left wing media vermin.

    If we are not prepared to fight these wars like wars ,we should come to terms with the islamists and give them exactly what they want. surrender, because I'd rather that, then innocent western civilians getting killed. My thoughts to sweden. And you know, I do think its's cowardly to attack a country like sweden, I don't hear them supporting Israel, or has large numbers of troops in afghanistan. Scum.I hope instead of those 7 yr old virgin girls, they want, they end up with large strap on wearing pigs.
 
 
 
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