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    Does anybody know about or better still does anybody have experience of studying applied mathematics at a top ranking Germany university?
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    (Original post by Salt&Vinegar)
    Does anybody know about or better still does anybody have experience of studying applied mathematics at a top ranking Germany university?
    Do you speak German?
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      (Original post by Freerider101)
      Do you speak German?
      Some courses are taught in English. And besides, they shouldn't have to go out of their way to do this, just because English people can't be bothered to learn other languages and study abroad, and overrate their universities (in general).
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      Does anybody know about or better still does anybody have experience of studying applied mathematics at a top ranking Germany university?
      I'm German, but all I know about German universities is that they are free for everyone. So no tuition fees. However living costs may cause a problem. And furthermore, you will automatically learn a new language without even trying too hard, because as you go around town, you will have to speak German. So it's a good thing.
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        (Original post by llpokermuffinll)
        I'm German, but all I know about German universities is that they are free for everyone. So no tuition fees.
        I thought they were like 500 odd euros a semester/year? :curious:
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        1. Tuition fees: It depends on the Bundesland if they charge tution fees or not. In general it's 1000€ per year. (500€ per semester)

        2. Language: To study as a full time student you will have to proof that your knowledge of German is good enough.

        3. A-Level: You have to look, if your A Level choice is acceptable to study in the Bundesland.

        4. Do you want to study at a Fachhochschule or Universität? (The latter is better. But be careful, because Fachhochschulen("polytechnics") call them "Universities of Applied Sciences")

        5. I think there are very few "Universitäten" where you can study "Applied Mathematics", but looking at the syllabus of Mathematics you should find more suitable courses, e.g. you have to take very often a minor (computer sciences, economics, mechanical engineering...) and looking at the Master you find probably the course you are looking for.
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        OK guys my plan is to take a 4-year undergraduate masters in applied mathematics with a study abroad option in the third year. I'm studying German at A-level but hope to improve in the first two years at university as a module language option in the mathematics degree programme. So the German university needs to offer similar course options for the third year of the degree course of equivalent standard to the UK degree. The problem I have is that I don't understand how the German degree system works to ensure the course options I take would be recognised by the UK university to count towards the undergraduate masters degree. So I'm looking for information about the German university system, and whether they cater for UK students under an Erasmus scheme. I'm looking for a good quality German university that has a quality applied mathematics department or faculty.
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        I can help you a little bit, if TU München is an option for you. (As far as I know LMU doesn't offer lectures in your field.)
        Just ask, if you don't understand things in general, too. e.g. Is this University known or what means Vorlesung? (Just a very simple example.)
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        I can help you a little bit, if TU München is an option for you.
        Just ask, if you don't understand things in general, too. e.g. Is this University known or what means Vorlesung? (Just a very simple example.)

        OK so what do you know about applied mathematics in TU Munchen? Does it do the following topics in the 5th and 6th semester?

        Continuum Mathematics
        Artificial Intelligence
        Nonlinear Dynamics and Chaos
        Mathematical Data Modelling
        Computational Complexity
        Computational Neuroscience
        Evolutionary Game Theory
        Mathematical Methods
        Fluid Dynamics
        Time Series Analysis

        The above is taken from 3rd year options at Bristol University Engineering Mathematics department. So how does the German University system work? What are the number of contact hours per week between student and lecturer? How are the topics examined and how long is a typical examination?

        I find the German University websites not very good and difficult to navigate.

        So any specific advice and experience of a German University is much appreciated!
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        Okay, I will try to help you and I think I can somehow:

        So what do you know about applied mathematics in TU Munchen?
        Not much more than you, but:
        When you start studying, all students study "BA Mathematics" (http://studium.ma.tum.de/Studium/BScMathe) and choose one minor: Computational Science, Economics or Physics. (But there is, as far as I know, also the possibilty to take Engineering, if you you want so.) Then the students can decide between five Masters:
        # MSc Mathematik
        # MSc Mathematical Finance and Actuarial Science
        # MSc Mathematics in Science and Engineering
        # MSc Mathematics in Operations Research
        # MSc Mathematics in Bioscience

        As you see, there you course in Applied Mathematics, but that means nothing, as it is more important for you to what lectures you can attend then to have the same course name.

        Does it do the following topics in the 5th and 6th semester?
        In general you aren't bound to the topics for the 5th and 6th semester. It shouldn't be a problem to just search the course yu want to hear, exspecially as doing Erasmus. It isn't as strict as in the UK, where you often have to follow one year. Anyway after the first two years every student has his personal timetable, you can say and it should be no problem to choose lecture from both Bachelor and Master programm.
        Here you have the list of lecctures:
        http://www.ma.tum.de/Studium/Modulhandbuch

        Fluid Dynamics is read at the Faculty of Mechanical Engineering, you should ask, if you can attend it, I don't know, how it is for an Erasmus student, but as I said before Germany isn't that strict.

        What are the number of contact hours per week between student and lecturer?
        If you look at the Modulhandbuch, you see e.g. this: " Analysis 1 4V+2ZÜ+2TÜ"
        "Analysis 1"... name of the "Modul" (subject)
        4 V... 4 hours lecture(Vorlesung) with about 800 to 20 fellow students (depending if it is compulsary or not, and also depending on the semester, if it is a very specialised lecture with mainly high semesters in it, then it can be very small. (often read by the Professor)
        2 ZÜ...Zentralübung, ususally there you get the solution for the Übungsblätter (Exercise sheets), often it is like a lecture, depending on the ability of the Übungsleiter (often a PHD student, sometimes even the Professor)
        2 TÜ...Tutorübung, usually just 4-50 students, where you go through the Tutorübungsblätter (Tutor Exercise Sheets) and can definitly ask questions
        In conclusion: you would have every week 8 hours Analysis I during 1st Semester (a Tutor can be a PHD, but often students you got an A in the subject, you have the choice between different tutors, so there is allways one you like)

        Sprechstunde: If you have additional questions you can go to the Sprechstunde (tutors or Übungsleiter, I recommand that very much, one time I was sitting there with two Übungsleiter who explained me all)

        THere are in genral no obligations to attend lectures or Übungen and you have to ask on your own, nobody will care unless you ask.

        Example: Nonlinear Dynamics, the lecturer is allways smiling and writes on the blackboard, the Übung is directly after the lecture, we calculate and he goes around the room, helping everyone who got stuck, from time to time a student calculates the right solutions on the blackboard and we take it as solution, if ours wasn't correct (As you see a Übung after the first two years hasn't necessarily be like a lecture)

        How are the topics examined and how long is a typical examination?
        There is allways an examination, sometimes oral if there are less enough students and it is allowed. Hm, you can say, if you have 4 hours lectures than 4 hours written examination, one hour than one hour examination.

        If you have any problems with German or the TUM webiste (I don't like the one from the department of Mathematics), you can aks me.

        What is important to you or better said, what are your "fears" concerning studying in Germany?
       
       
       
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