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    Could you answer this please;

    What is the difference between a poem, and this song?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aavBigXvy4

    '[x4]
    If a picture's worth a thousand words I'll paint a thousand pictures

    If a picture's worth a thousand words I'll paint a thousand pictures
    To symbolize the decibel levels bred of a thousand whispers
    To mummify useless unknown poems spit a shower with gold glitter
    Pressure increase unleash the catacomb splitters
    And for some reason you wonder why your puzzle is a jigsaw
    When you fail to decipher the mores code to simply avoid the pitfalls
    If need be I can get raw - just pocket the latex
    But that's like asking why the man with no legs crawls to see the apex
    Or why the *un-planted* seeds won't blossom into a garden
    Parallel to your search for stardom where you leave breadcrumbs and jargon
    That you can't even feel. So how's that for surface tension?
    Every step shows you're a worthless henchman itching to meet your maker
    I'd rather finger-paint than take a tainted pen and curse the paper
    Voice box turns cauldron, saliva boils, then thoughts are vapor
    *See if almost* only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades
    Then a thoroughbred's accuracy isn't the focal point of perfection
    Therefore you trudge through waist-high sludge and caramelized paints where
    Prints left, taint every breath
    Inhale - golden oxygen, then step graciously over landmines shallow beneath the soil surface
    Take a small step for man and ascend a stairway to heaven on pegs
    To take a giant leap for mankind to stand and keep your legs
    What a dilemma to hold hands with
    Sanity's a steep cliff of gift
    And it seems because of your fork-tongued dreams your hands slipped
    Rip your canteen of get-rich schemes and set sail on the seven seas
    Hooker left that envy to drown in greed
    Before you swallow your pride and wash it down with a glass of formaldehyde
    I'll preserve the day the Earth fell, to symbolize how Atlas died
    I've tried to rush the wormhole to deliver a eulogy
    But the other eight planets follow me to stage a silent mutiny
    No more - dodging shooting stars
    No more - lashing of asteroid belts
    No more - avoiding supernovas and fear of android wealth
    If science and religion is the building block for a laughing stock
    Then the foundation should crumble at the epicenter of the aftershock
    The bow breaks at the vinyl spots
    The cradle of all this crime rate drops
    I've timed hate crops harvest to see if records of frisbees flop hardest
    Well that would depend on the trajectory
    And the way the projector projected me
    I was a hologram waiting for wind to inherit merit discrepancy
    Is it time for lift off?
    I think go-go gadget propellers are prepared
    Is it time for lift off?
    The rocket fuel was at peak in mid-week
    I think it's time for lift off
    The structural integrity seems to be holding
    But three astronauts were found in a cockpit falling asleep
    So will these thousand whispers ever hold a cleft note to sing?
    Or will these blisters become targets of the scorpion king's sting?
    Because the poison invades the veins to the stages of Hume
    I'll take a rain check in the same breath of a checkmate - in three moves
    I know everything is everything and nothing's still something else
    So I cleared my shelves of any signs of wealth to impress the elves
    My neck it holds bricks that weighs down my liftoff
    As a precaution I replaced the wood in the loft with something soft
    Your windows - they look clear but my pane's a stained glass
    To dampen the impression of expression anything has
    Do the hues you use, do they capture the pain my frame has?
    Or are you caught in the faces we weave, scared to changes masks?
    I'm the lawnmower man on a mission to slaughter the strange grass
    But first I must erase cyberspace and rape the track before train pass
    You strain cash
    Well I take the root of evil, make tea
    Patiently holding hands with anxiousness, I can already taste it
    There's the kettle whistle, interrupting my vision of rainbow bands
    The steam scolding my hand
    The mug shattered and I wasted it
    Now if a picture's worth a thousand words I painted a thousand pictures
    On the beautiful backdrop of butterfly kisses

    [x3]
    If a picture's worth a thousand words I painted a thousand pictures
    If a scream is worth a thousand dreams I dreamed a thousand whispers

    I'll scream a thousand whispers ..'



    Beautiful dont you think?


    If thats not your thing why not go for..


    'bewildered herds, sharpen your teeth.
    remember these three quotes.
    only lie to cameras, cops, and crooks.
    see kindness is within our power, but fondness is not.
    under the false umbrella of hope, lives are sold, and people are bought.
    somebody once told me: all men were created equal.
    you're not created in the womb,
    you're created in a classroom by rich people,
    and history is written through the eyes of the butcher.
    those who benefit from an ignorant public condescend and insult you.
    they built you in the image of slaves; the freemen got locked up.
    as long as they control the means of selling beliefs, no man is equal.
    if there's a policeman living in your head, you're not free.
    cuz if free trade were real, everyone would own a company.

    all that is solid has melted into air,
    it doesn't matter who you vote for, the government will always get in.
    all that was once solid has melted into air,
    one hundred thousand lemmings can't be wrong'

    people join the army to pay for college.
    in California residents go to college for free.
    what will you do?
    smoke weed on the weekends and go hiking?
    or serve a white collar death squad of an oil company military.
    everybody want heaven but nobody wants dead.
    we are living in a rich man's heaven, a poor man's hell.
    the middle class is dwindling, the population is doubling,
    we are not living in Rome, we have been living in a fiefdom.
    so when they remap all the genomes, remember.
    it's a hate free zone'
    cuz money doesn't care who burns it.
    the word is a killer virus:
    i'm not a happy plant, so i carry diseases.
    so the ones who are starved of knowledge can someday flourish
    and punish all those who stood between us.

    quit your job, start a business and read more.
    all that was once solid has melted into air.

    they left the door open cuz the best illusions are half real.

    puppets, cannibals, satellite shadows,
    businessmen, inmates, free thinkers, and cattle.
    (dumb this down.)
    birds on power lines, lion heads on mantles, pop idol pawns,
    dead presidents, live poets, and dust mites.
    (dumb this down.)
    hookers on birth control, men on wanted posters, the women who love them,
    dinosaurs, inbreds, and alien holograms.
    (dumb this down.)
    b-52 pilots and other airborne bacteria,
    children born with stds and the sons of rich tyrants.
    (dumb this down.)'

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EOy5kADnHE

    or

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRcidy0tkDI
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih1GM8Qf6t8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLv-vxyrWvc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_q3dRCb878
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY7YlauqWoc

    etc etc etc
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    :tea:I fully agree with you brah, I think not taking time to properly sample and listen to a genre of music before you make judgements is simply ignorant. Rap is the best

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    I think you'll find most people think rap about hoes and guns is crap. My old teacher is in a duet sorta thing where he and his friend try to break the barrier people seem to think between rap and poetry, but putting on an act of well. My english teacher being an english teacher and his mate being a rap star. Their called "Dead Poets" and they are hilarious and becoming more and more popular throughout the UK, but I agree that some people do see rap as simply crap because they think it's all about guns and ****. It's balls, but I still find eminem amazing ;D
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    not like rappers commit any crime or anything...
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    Sick album though.
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    It's boring as **** basically. I don't want to listen to some guy mumble over a ****ty programmed electronic tune about his wimminz.
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    Err... you posted an example of crap rap. It's the same mindless beat, over and over. The rhyming is quite average as well.

    This is it...


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewc1hixzYPY

    Although, 95% of rap/hip-hop is terrible. If Robert Christgau likes it you know it's good.
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    Yup, but sadly most people think rap = 50 cent.
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    ILLOGIC - Dope Lyricist, been a fan for years. OP you must be a big underground rap fan?

    Yes sad to say that this guy struggles to sell 2000 copies of his CD,s to the extent that he has a cap on the amount of copies he produces. This is not about poor advertising or anything, the songs he spits are not for mainstream radio fans.

    Support Support Support!!


    Try this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zMoNkbBGik
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    I guess we all have different opinions:dontknow: but take a time to listen before you call insult the genre
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    You do realise plenty of non-rap musicians have caused crimes. I can think of loads off the top of my head. Just some examples...

    Leadbelly (famous blues guitarist) killed two people.

    Keith Richards smuggled heroin into the US and the band got caught loads of other times with various narcotics.

    Charlie Paker (do I really need to say who he is) heroin.

    Billie Holiday - Heroin.

    Claudine Longet murdered her boyfriend.

    And, obviously, Sid Vicious - murder
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    I'm not a fan of rap in general, but the song above is something I can see the enjoyment. However a song about going into a club and shagging some '*****' or 'hoe' and then driving off in a flashy car and doing drugs.... no thanks. Perhaps you could say the crap songs have spoilt it for the good ones?
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    people would listen more if the beat wasn't so ****.
    All artists must have the same beat machine/software cos it all sounds the same.
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    He definitely has song talent writing songs, but his actual rapping skills seem to be pretty average. The generic beat, liner flow, same pace the whole way through.

    To answer your question, most people will never hear anything like this in the mainstream. The only rap people are exposed to are people like Tinchy Strider or whatever crap is played in the charts. I think the main problem is you have to think about the lyrics when you’re listening to this sort of stuff, most people just want a good beat and some memorable rhymes to sing on along too. :/
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    (Original post by pina.Love)
    people would listen more if the beat wasn't so ****.
    All artists must have the same beat machine/software cos it all sounds the same.
    :lolwut:






    All these songs have completely different sounding backing tracks and these are just songs released in 2010:rolleyes:

    Also HipHop/Rap isn't really looking for listeners. it has them in abundance. It just isn't given the true recognition it deserves
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    (Original post by EggmanD)
    Could you answer this please;

    What is the difference between a poem, and this song?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aavBigXvy4

    [x4]
    If a picture's worth a thousand words I'll paint a thousand pictures

    If a picture's worth a thousand words I'll paint a thousand pictures
    To symbolize the decibel levels bred of a thousand whispers
    To mummify useless unknown poems spit a shower with gold glitter
    Pressure increase unleash the catacomb splitters
    And for some reason you wonder why your puzzle is a jigsaw
    When you fail to decipher the mores code to simply avoid the pitfalls
    If need be I can get raw - just pocket the latex
    But that's like asking why the man with no legs crawls to see the apex
    Or why the *un-planted* seeds won't blossom into a garden
    Parallel to your search for stardom where you leave breadcrumbs and jargon
    That you can't even feel. So how's that for surface tension?
    Every step shows you're a worthless henchman itching to meet your maker
    I'd rather finger-paint than take a tainted pen and curse the paper
    Voice box turns cauldron, saliva boils, then thoughts are vapor
    *See if almost* only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades
    Then a thoroughbred's accuracy isn't the focal point of perfection
    Therefore you trudge through waist-high sludge and caramelized paints where
    Prints left, taint every breath
    Inhale - golden oxygen, then step graciously over landmines shallow beneath the soil surface
    Take a small step for man and ascend a stairway to heaven on pegs
    To take a giant leap for mankind to stand and keep your legs
    What a dilemma to hold hands with
    Sanity's a steep cliff of gift
    And it seems because of your fork-tongued dreams your hands slipped
    Rip your canteen of get-rich schemes and set sail on the seven seas
    Hooker left that envy to drown in greed
    Before you swallow your pride and wash it down with a glass of formaldehyde
    I'll preserve the day the Earth fell, to symbolize how Atlas died
    I've tried to rush the wormhole to deliver a eulogy
    But the other eight planets follow me to stage a silent mutiny
    No more - dodging shooting stars
    No more - lashing of asteroid belts
    No more - avoiding supernovas and fear of android wealth
    If science and religion is the building block for a laughing stock
    Then the foundation should crumble at the epicenter of the aftershock
    The bow breaks at the vinyl spots
    The cradle of all this crime rate drops
    I've timed hate crops harvest to see if records of frisbees flop hardest
    Well that would depend on the trajectory
    And the way the projector projected me
    I was a hologram waiting for wind to inherit merit discrepancy
    Is it time for lift off?
    I think go-go gadget propellers are prepared
    Is it time for lift off?
    The rocket fuel was at peak in mid-week
    I think it's time for lift off
    The structural integrity seems to be holding
    But three astronauts were found in a cockpit falling asleep
    So will these thousand whispers ever hold a cleft note to sing?
    Or will these blisters become targets of the scorpion king's sting?
    Because the poison invades the veins to the stages of Hume
    I'll take a rain check in the same breath of a checkmate - in three moves
    I know everything is everything and nothing's still something else
    So I cleared my shelves of any signs of wealth to impress the elves
    My neck it holds bricks that weighs down my liftoff
    As a precaution I replaced the wood in the loft with something soft
    Your windows - they look clear but my pane's a stained glass
    To dampen the impression of expression anything has
    Do the hues you use, do they capture the pain my frame has?
    Or are you caught in the faces we weave, scared to changes masks?
    I'm the lawnmower man on a mission to slaughter the strange grass
    But first I must erase cyberspace and rape the track before train pass
    You strain cash
    Well I take the root of evil, make tea
    Patiently holding hands with anxiousness, I can already taste it
    There's the kettle whistle, interrupting my vision of rainbow bands
    The steam scolding my hand
    The mug shattered and I wasted it
    Now if a picture's worth a thousand words I painted a thousand pictures
    On the beautiful backdrop of butterfly kisses

    [x3]
    If a picture's worth a thousand words I painted a thousand pictures
    If a scream is worth a thousand dreams I dreamed a thousand whispers

    I'll scream a thousand whispers ..



    Beautiful dont you think?
    Lyrics are good. However the beat and flow is very average, even bordering on poor at times. A song still needs a good beat and good flow if its lyrics are really gonna permeate. This song is just pretty boring tbh
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    i don't like the guys flow, and his rhyme scheme ain't tight enough. hardly any triple/quadruple rhymes. Lowkey is quite good I think.
    WHen I listen to rap, I want realness- regardless of topic. If he's talking about drugs, then he should talk about situations he's been in and what's happened- no glamorising, just real talk about the risks and situations he's been in rather than boasting about how quick he can move food.
    WIth women, a song about relationships is cool as long as it's emotive rather than just " I mack that hoe, grab that doe from the cash i fold", something like "you see me at my best and my worst,if it weren't for you, I would've never entered a church", just some substance really.
    Nothing wrong with talking about women or drugs, as long as it's realistic.
    Alot of alternative rappers have no flow, or their rhyming is basic or they lack charisma. Just because someone is a mainstream artist, doesn't mean he can't go hard lyrically.

    Guys look out for wretch 32, been on the underground for a while, finally got signed. he's hard
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    I just find them dreary, repetitive and monotonous. I prefer music that focuses more on melody and harmonic structure, rather than on rhythm and lyrics. I very rarely listen to the lyrics of any songs, even the ones that I like. I suppose being a musician myself, I automatically focus on the music above anything else. I find the music videos very offputting too.
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    Joe Budden: "Music is just what feelings sound like." IMO, no other genre deals with issues as deep as rap can.
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    (Original post by Nichrome)
    It's boring as **** basically. I don't want to listen to some guy mumble over a ****ty programmed electronic tune about his wimminz.
    Well then, please provide some examples of music you enjoy. Also your narrow minded opinion regarding the genre is only stopping you from enjoying quality music. If you dont like rapping theres always the instrumental side lol

    (Original post by spazman21)
    Err... you posted an example of crap rap. It's the same mindless beat, over and over. The rhyming is quite average as well.

    This is it...


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewc1hixzYPY

    Although, 95% of rap/hip-hop is terrible. If Robert Christgau likes it you know it's good.
    Crap rap? come again? I love everything about Doom. Dont really see how you can like that and think Illogic is crap tbh..

    (Original post by German Jaime)
    ILLOGIC - Dope Lyricist, been a fan for years. OP you must be a big underground rap fan?

    Yes sad to say that this guy struggles to sell 2000 copies of his CD,s to the extent that he has a cap on the amount of copies he produces. This is not about poor advertising or anything, the songs he spits are not for mainstream radio fans.

    Support Support Support!!


    Try this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zMoNkbBGik
    I like it all, Cannibus is quality, loved his and LL's little beef episode a while back, they both came out with some quality. I havent really given hip hop as much time as i used to now but itunes has put me back on the beats


    (Original post by pina.Love)
    people would listen more if the beat wasn't so ****.
    All artists must have the same beat machine/software cos it all sounds the same.
    Abit like how guitarists and drummers and violinists and pianists use the same instruments 'cos it all sounds the same'

    A wide variety of sounds and styles are in every genre, this is no different.


    (Original post by IFondledAGibbon)
    He definitely has song talent writing songs, but his actual rapping skills seem to be pretty average. The generic beat, liner flow, same pace the whole way through.

    To answer your question, most people will never hear anything like this in the mainstream. The only rap people are exposed to are people like Tinchy Strider or whatever crap is played in the charts. I think the main problem is you have to think about the lyrics when you’re listening to this sort of stuff, most people just want a good beat and some memorable rhymes to sing on along too. :/

    I was talking about the lyrical content vs stereotypical views.. I agree he hasn't got the best wordplay or flow but he more than makes up for it with his content IMO.
 
 
 
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