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    Hi,

    My boyfriend wants to re-apply to uni after failing his second year in economics. He had a hard year, but does not have a concrete excuse for not passing.

    He has got quite a good reference from one of his teachers at the uni he just left and a certificate of higher education for his first year. But is not sure whether or not to use it in his new UCAS form. Should he lie and pretend he has never been to uni??

    Should he use the new reference or will new unis automatically think he is rubbish??
    He is also thinking of taking an open university course before September. Worth it?

    ANY HELP APPRECIATED - WE ARE PRETTY STUMPED!!!
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    (Original post by Ounie)
    Hi,

    My boyfriend wants to re-apply to uni after failing his second year in economics. He had a hard year, but does not have a concrete excuse for not passing.

    He has got quite a good reference from one of his teachers at the uni he just left and a certificate of higher education for his first year. But is not sure whether or not to use it in his new UCAS form. Should he lie and pretend he has never been to uni??

    Should he use the new reference or will new unis automatically think he is rubbish??
    He is also thinking of taking an open university course before September. Worth it?

    ANY HELP APPRECIATED - WE ARE PRETTY STUMPED!!!
    He should think through very carefully why he was unsuccessful before rushing into another course. If there is no obvious explanation for the failure, all the more reason to do this. Otherwise he is at real risk of making an expensive mistake that could prevent him from pursuing something that really appeals to him later on.

    If he does decide to have another go - whenever that might be - he will be expected to declare what he has already done, and in any case he has a qualification (the Cert HE) to show for it. The tutor who has given him a reference would have to provide it direct to UCAS if your boyfriend reapplies, though of course the 'shelf life' of that reference will be only a year or two.

    An OU course might be helpful, in terms of maintaining the discipline of study, but distance learning is very different and motivation is more difficult to maintain - so, again, to avoid expensive mistakes he needs to really think through what the issues were this time round.
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    Hi,
    Thanks for your quick reply.
    I understand what you are saying about it not being the right path for him but it is what he really wants.

    So would you say it is best to be open about it and try to talk up the qualification from his first year and how the experience will help him to be a better student? Should he put that he failed? Will the new uni ask for his grade statement from his second year?

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    (Original post by Ounie)
    Hi,
    Thanks for your quick reply.
    I understand what you are saying about it not being the right path for him but it is what he really wants.

    So would you say it is best to be open about it and try to talk up the qualification from his first year and how the experience will help him to be a better student? Should he put that he failed? Will the new uni ask for his grade statement from his second year?

    Thanks
    well the admissions will wonder what did he do between 2010 and 2011. So saying that he went to uni before hand would explain that.
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    (Original post by Ounie)
    Hi,
    Thanks for your quick reply.
    I understand what you are saying about it not being the right path for him but it is what he really wants.

    So would you say it is best to be open about it and try to talk up the qualification from his first year and how the experience will help him to be a better student? Should he put that he failed? Will the new uni ask for his grade statement from his second year?

    Thanks
    He doesn't have an option: on his UCAS application he must declare his attendance at uni as well as any qualification that was awarded and why he left. This is an absolute requirement.

    The new uni might well ask for the transcript from his second year, but in any event he will need to be able to demonstrate that he stands a good chance of being successful second time around. This is why he needs to think it all through very carefully.
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    thanks,

    does he HAVE to write why he left?? where on the ucas form does it state that? also would it be easier for him to get into the 2nd or 1st year of a course or does it not matter either way they will know he failed?

    there is no way to gloss over it??!

    thanks again for your help
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    never ever ever ever ever ever ever lie to UCAS, NEVER!!

    They have ways of finding things out...

    Anyhoo, Good Luck, dont worry, it'll work out!
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    (Original post by Ounie)
    thanks,

    does he HAVE to write why he left?? where on the ucas form does it state that? also would it be easier for him to get into the 2nd or 1st year of a course or does it not matter either way they will know he failed?

    there is no way to gloss over it??!

    thanks again for your help
    I think he should do his absolute best to be honest when he reapplies to minimise problems which might arise later, such as the inevitable moment when unis ask why he failed. Why did he? There has to be a reason- were there mitigating circumstances?

    Are you sure he still wants to do economics? Maybe it would be better if he reapplied for a different subject. He would have to say that he went to uni and left I think, for the sake of academic integrity, and the certificate would help him to gain recognition for his efforts. Choosing the wrong subject could then account for his grades and change of heart.
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    (Original post by Ounie)
    thanks,

    does he HAVE to write why he left?? where on the ucas form does it state that? also would it be easier for him to get into the 2nd or 1st year of a course or does it not matter either way they will know he failed?

    there is no way to gloss over it??!

    thanks again for your help
    He has to declare on the form that he was at uni, when he was there, and the qualification he gained. This is not optional. It will therefore be obvious that something went wrong in the second year. Trying to pretend it didn't will be counterproductive.

    From everything you've posted so far it seems to me that it was academic rather than personal difficulties that led to this result. If that is right, all the more reason to be honest about what he's learned from that experience and how he intends to avoid a repetition. This is why he would be much better advised to take his time, get some more life experience under his belt, and start again with a better understanding both of himself and what he is taking on.

    Incidentally, his Cert HE will not necessarily mean he can be exempted from the first year of a new course - indeed, given his track record, unis may insist that he starts again. If that is so, he will have at least one year he must finance himself. Is he aware of that?
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    Obviously he will have problems with funding and get more in debt. It is better not to hide his qualifications, a Certificate of Higher Education is still something. Tell him to have a look at Birkbeck, it is possible to transfer some credits and study part time in the afternoon while working in the mornings. He can apply directly to the uni.
 
 
 
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